use cross-examination to point out minor and not really relevant and consistencies and someone's story and make them look like they are an unreliable reporter, when the time comes to testify the case. so, legally, it is helpful to have somebody go first. politically, i think a big part of donald trump's strategy is delay so he can claim i have a perfectly legitimate defense, i have an expert report that completely exonerates mean you will find all about that after the election. if we see the trial of some of the other defendants first, and we see the gory details of the evidence, then it may be that that political strategy backfires on him. >> molly, i want to hear you jump in on the political strategy, right? if the entire point from donald trump's legal team has been in part a legal argument but of course a political argument they want to push this past the election, i know you have the codefendants who are beginning early, right? and actually they are beginning to show us what it is that fani willis has, just how damaging is that for donald trump? >> well, i would say that look, trump wants to do this case in the court of public opinion.