something that even two years ago did not have master in the state of north carolina. so there is disarray amongst the republican party. >> i only have about 30 seconds left, michele, but i want to ask you about the abortion bans that went into effect this week. what does that mean for the state closest to the states that are still providing access to abortion? >> it means the reproductive health care desert. it means a lack of health care and services for people who need them. and this is for a range of health issues, because at the beginning of the date we must remember this as a health issue and that the united states leads all of the developed world in maternal mortality and maternal morbidity, ranking about 55th in the world. it is at the deep opposition quite frankly. >> as always, thank you so much, michele goodwin. next, author prachi gupta on how -- can have serious consequences, especially with immigrant families and