before about the possibility that president putin at this point in time was open to ending this ongoing war. but we heard something interesting earlier today from deputy secretary of state wendy sherman. when she was on the sunday shows saying that in the last couple of days, the u.s. has seen what she described as a real openness by president putin to legitimate substantive diplomatic negotiations. we really didn't know what that meant and don't have a lot of detail about that. but that came just a few hours before we learned about these talks that will now be taking place early morning tomorrow u.s. time between the russians and the ukrainians. if that were to lead to anything, it would surely be a very positive indication given that every effort by international figures to try to broker some resolution to this, by the turks be,ty israelis, by french president macron and german chancellor schulz in a three-way call they had a couple

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