give an "s," ends with "t," about ukraine. ambassador sondland agreed that the president did not give an "s" about ukraine. i asked why not. ambassador sondland stated that the president only cares about big stuff. i noted that there was big stuff going on in ukraine, like a war with russia, and ambassador sondland replied that he means big stuff that benefits the president, like the biden investigation that mr. giuliani was pushing. donald trump pushed for that investigation on an open line, cell phone line, that he three years in as being president must know that foreign countries can listen to. what do you make of the fact that he was willing to essentially incriminate himself on a cell phone call. >> let me further what naveed was saying there and what mr mr. pfeiffer said. this is not only usual, this is an unprecedented violation of national security. and here's why. donald trump was running a secret dirty tricks team whose sole function was to go to ukraine and get information so that he could cheat in the 2020
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