a lot of people to remember. you got giuliani, a whole bunch of people. but the case is fairly simple. it is donald trump said clear russia of what we all know they did in 2016. clear them and get biden in trouble. that is it. do that for me and then you can get the money that you are already supposed to have. is that clear -- i mean that is pretty clear, right? but there are ways that it can can get muddled if democrats just start throwing witnesses out and people are getting confused. >> and this is an important strategic point of keeping it civil as taken adean and mya ta about. messaging is important. when i started as a prosecutor, i wind to a training at the department of justice. and i was taught because of all of the resources in the grand jury process, the government doesn't often lose cases because the evidence is strong, the government loses cases because