that is different. >> barbara and joyce, i'll try to get you in here in the last couple minutes that we have. i'm wondering how much does public opinion play in all of this in this legal sphere? and i bring that unbecause there a new "washington post" poll that shows the partisan dividei. 82% of democrats say he should be impeached and removed whereas republican, 82% say he shouldn't be impeach and removed from office. how much should public opinion play in the legal sphere and the impeachment sphere that we're talking about now? joyce. >> well, as mya correctly points out, this is a political process. it is a judicial process in political clothing. and it will have aspects of both of those systems as it goes forward. but ultimately the american people through their senators are the jurors who will decide whether or not the president