bulwark, and they join me now. clare, i was struck today that whatever you thought of the legal argumentation, which i thought was fairly preposterous and outlandish, you know, saying, yeah, you biting the bullet and saying, yeah, as long as he's not impeached, a president could assassinate his political rivals using the u.s. armed forces. like, you would think you wouldn't want to make that argument in purely political terms. and i think they just think there is nothing they could say on these terms that's going to hurt them politically. >> i think you're right. i think donald trump believes these court cases are helping him. any think he sees them as a campaign tool. and give me a minute here, okay, just give me a minute. this guy that represented trump today is from missouri, okay? and he's harvard. he clerked for looting it, chris. he clerked for the conservative judge that is advancing the plain text of the constitution supporting the 14th amendment should remove donald trump from the ballot. he clerked for scalia, and by