in any of the four cases. that does not appear to be the case in the four cases before the election. it would not be before an appeal is in place or before move. i don't think this has no ramification whatsoever. persuadeable voteers are reminded why they don't like donald trump. >> there's been a debate over messaging for the biden campaign about the economy. i looked at what the president had to say in that pennsylvania trip. they're making a case on the economy. the economy has grown because of the things we did. there's some people who say you can't tell people they have to feel better about the economy when they don't. >> i think it's both. i think people are hearing biden talk about the
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