>> the connection is not whether iraq was connected to december 11th but how do you prevent the next september 11th. it's not a question of whether it should be taken out but when should it be taken out? the first victory in afghanistan makes a second victory in iraq that much easier. a second victory in iraq will make the third victory that much easier, too. if you take out saddam's regime i guarantee you it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region. >> a guarantee. how did that turn out? actual experts of the time predicted correctly that the iraq war would be a catastrophe and would not be an easy victory for the u.s. and crucially, it would be a huge boon for iran, which it was. the shiite majority took the reins of the government and formed close ties with shiite leaders in tehran. iranian militias now operate out of iraq and that tells you