and that is what people smarting than me have looked into. they say they have -- >> until the five justices of supreme court say, no. >> so let them. sue say that we want you to have to pay thousands of dollars of student loan. >> better to acts for forgiveness than permission. >> this is an issue that we talk to young folks about. they are under dead. these are the things that motivate them. and i can tell you how dumb the politics are to have them starting in february. >> what do you think? there is a lot of back and forth about where the economy is right now. and one of the things i wanted to talk to you about is how i understand that inflation freaks people out. i understand why it does. high gas prices, etc -- but i think that it's under appreciation how progresses, progressive caucus, the biden administration, even working with trump, we just wanted to sign checks and didn't care