hybrid system. there is some private insurance companies involved, and it kind of operates like the health insurance system. and it's just a recipe for endless hassle, endless frustration when you try to take time off. and i don't think the purpose of public policy should be to anger people and frustrate people. >> yeah. you say this about the sort of specific program design right now. to use the benefit workers must learn whether their employer or their state offer paid leave. then apply with the proper entity turning in some combination of pay stubs, tax information and work history to comply with numerous eligibility requirement. we have all been through the hassle of american health insurance. look, there is some sort of bureaucratic, you know, mechanics that are going to be somewhat unavoidable in public programs. even countries administrated well. we should be clear about that. but your point is you think that

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