gotten away with that, whether that is stonewalling congress or the american people, cannot conduct oversight when it's tied up in court or engaging in a treasonous insurrection or whether it is defrauding and stealing money from your supporters and get yg you are friend the president to pardon you. they have proven time and again that they are getting away with it. the question for merrick garland is, is that what the rule of law means to him? and i don't think it is. >> you're the lawyer. i have to say allegedly, allegedly defrauding his supporters. steve bannon, you know -- >> allegedly. >> yeah. he is a real mench. i can't see him doing that. look, the law -- part of what is so maddening, right, this has been true from, the you know, the earliest days, like, this is a guy who skated his whole life. he wriggled out of stuff. "the new york times" ran a 10,000 word piece accusing him of criminal tax fraud, you know, in black and white.