always be overrun. imagine if right here in new york city, in ellis island, if people's grandparents and great-grandparents were met with cages. how different would the dna and our family histories and trauma be? this is not who we should be as a country. there are challenges i think the message we should be sending to luiten america, first of all, acknowledging our role because we have been hiding and running away from actually acknowledging the role of u.s. history. a major step for us to even say what we've done and then the second thing we can do is say, we can come together, and as, as partners, to try to figure out how we clean up this mess that the united states helped contribute to. because no one wants to leave their home. none of these people -- >> right. >> -- want to leave the communities and insays tral