i see this in a very similar way with parallels to bribery and extortion. unlike the kinds of crimes mueller was investigating of obstruction, there is reference to be right back in the institution as a grounds for impeachment explicitly. >> david, one wrinkle that is also interesting, the oath of office, this little detail about these funds, which are sitting there in ukraine is expecting. by august, congressional appropriators had lost control over the process to the office management and budget. an executive office run by mick mulvaney. for weeks it said the o & b announced short-term holds on ukraine funds. there was never an express reason except the administration was kaukt vague inner-agency review of the funds. what do you make of that. >> we're at the point where the president's violated the constitution and the law as barbara was just saying so many