the way, he was also alleged to have done this with karen mcdougal, the playboy playmate. so, would he be a good choice? would david packer be a good choice to go first? >> i think that being able to tell the story chronologically, it is difficult when then you have to do with different witnesses and their counsel overlap. i think the fact that this stretches back into 2015 does potentially make him an interesting choice here. i would predict we are going to hear from hope hicks very early on in the case. former trump campaign and white house inner circle member, longtime very close staff who was in the room, when it happened, so to speak. he has been on the witness list. i would suspect we will be hearing from her. we will get the contacts that will then set up the october