you would come on and have a background that was a white wall. there was no detecting where you were. i'm curious about the links you had to go to protect yourself and your family and how frightening that was? >> i hope as i say this that none of this will be the experience of any of the jurors. but we know at the same time that a lot of public officials, especially within the republican party who have spoken out against the ex- president have suffered withering intimidation from supporters of his. in my case, i had to leave my home. i was on the run for months. i had to be under armed guard and carry a concealed weapon. to this day we have to take extraordinary security measures and we are still on the receiving end of threats and stalkers that want to carry forward the ex-president's view

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