it was - who helped to get othe gangsters. you used criminals to ge criminals. michael cohen certainly is n -- he did a white collar crime fo trump. so, like any other circumstance, we would be praising the prosecutor for getting all o the guys that you are trying t convict to flip on the guy in this case, we are actin like cohen is not credible h is probably the most incredibl to turn to a crime >> interesting on that point it is well taken let me speak about former obam administration who spoke about the attacks on manhattan d alvin bragg including th attempts by the republican weaponization committee to get brad to testify in congress. here's what he said about that >> if i were him, i would, i an appropriate way, and with a much respect as i can, tell hi to go pound sand