only engage organizations and civil rights groups doing this work on the ground, but we have to put pressure on the democrats to stand together. they have a majority in congress right now. they have a majority in the senate, and so while i know manchin and sinema are both, you know, being very flaky on this, we have to use all of the power and all of the pressure on the people behind them and this has to be the most censured issue for the administration at this time. >> we have chuck schumer, as you know, who plans to take up the for the people act and it is a landmark expansion of voting rights that will happen later this month and it certainly faces an uphill battle. how can the vice president help push this through the senate? >> i think there are a couple of things. there's an inside and outside strategy, i believe. i think the outside strategy is i think that what we're seeing even with black voters matter.