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then to egypt. the year ago today, egyptian authorities killed at least 800 demonstrators protesting the ouster of democratically elected president mohammed morsi. >> the rabaa massacre was one of the worst massacres in the demonstration in recent times, very much on a par with the massacres in tournaments where in china in 1989 -- tiananmen square in china in 1989. this is a crime against humanity . >> we will speak with human rights watch executive director kenneth roth who has refused -- was refused entry to egypt to present his report on the massacre. we will also talk to muslim brotherhood member dr. abdul mawgoud dardery, former member of the egyptian parliament. and we go to cairo to speak with democracy now correspondent sharif abdel kouddous. then to new mexico where the obama administration has opened a new detention center to hold hundreds of immigrant women and children who fled violence in central america. >> so i went back to the detention facility the day after the to her and was interesting because in that moment, the show was over. children were not eating. children were getting very sick. every child i saw looked incredibly emaciated, had kind of a hollow look in their eyes. >> all of that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. israel and hamas have extended their cease-fire for another five days. this marks the longest pause them with a monthlong assault on gaza, following two 72 hour cease-fires over the past week. talks of extending the truth initially appeared to be at an impasse before last-minute agreement was reached. this cease-fire appears to be holding, despite initial flareup of violence from both sides. mission says a rescue for trapped civilians in northern iraq is less likely afternoon assessment team found better conditions than previously thought. the pentagon made the announcement after a small group am including marines and special forces, visited mount sinjar, were thousands of yazidis have fled. the u.s. team apparently found thousands of yazidis instead of the estimated tens of thousands, and better conditions than previously feared. they said u.s. airstrikes in advances by kurdish forces helped break the siege and allow using these to escape. the news came hours after deputy national security advisor ben rhodes said president obama is considering a number of options for mount sinjar including the deployment of u.s. forces. >> what is ruled out is richard using u.s. forces in the comment on the ground in iraq. there are a variety of ways in which we can support safe removal of those people from the mountain. >> the u.s. now has close to 1000 military personnel in iraq and continues to launch airstrikes on islamic state militants in the north. the united nations has elevated iraq's humanitarian crisis to level three comments most dire warning, with over 1.5 million people displaced. >> police in ferguson, missouri appeared to be escalating a crackdown on protests over an officer's fatal shooting of unarmed african-american teenager michael brown. on wednesday, ferguson police fired tear gas, stun grenades, and smoke bombs to break up a fifth night of demonstrations. at least 10 people were arrested, including st. louis alderman antonio french, who is posted video online of the protest over the past days and appeared on democracy now! earlier this week. an earlier protest faced and the police response, with police in riot gear stationed by a massive armed vehicle in the street. >> i'm very discouraged. this was supposed to be a peaceful rally. we wanted peace and unity. we don't want an adversarial relationship with the police. we want to partner with them to find out what happened and bring justice for mike brown. the fact it has to come to this comments very disheartening. >> journalists from the washington post and huffington post were also arrested last night and then released without charge. they were detained while filing reports from a mcdonald's restaurant near the protests. the ferguson police department continues to withhold the name of the officer who shot brown, citing threats on his life. the ferguson chief of police tom jackson said the unidentified officer was injured during his confrontation with michael brown. jackson also called on protesters to end nighttime demonstrations. >> he was injured. the side of his face is swollen. he was taken to the hospital and treated for that. we would like to protesting to and at dark come just because, as you probably know, it has been unsafe after dark. shottnesses say brown was with his arms up as he tried to flee the officers fire. on wednesday, officials confirmed the justice department has opened a federal civil rights investigation into the shooting. usa today reports the justice department will also conduct a national review of police tactics in response to the ferguson shooting and similar incidents nationwide. as protests continue missouri, police in los angeles are facing public anger over shooting of another young african-american. details remain unclear, but family members say 25-year-old unarmedrd, junior was and laying on the ground lease shot him dead monday night. ford suffered from mental disabilities. announced aas federal civil rights lawsuit against the los angeles police department. a protest on lapd headquarters has been called for this sunday. in egypt, state forces have killed at least two people in protests marking the first anniversary of the massacre of demonstrators opposed to the country's military coup. a year ago, tens of thousands of people camped out to protest the ouster of democratically elected president mohammed morsi. over the course of a single day what became known as the rabaa massacre, egyptian forces killed at least 800 people. hundreds of supporters have blocked roads and highways in cairo and egypt. we'll have more later in the broadcast. your show the death toll from violence in eastern ukraine has doubled in the past two weeks. the noted nations has around 1000 people have died since late july as the u.s.-backed ukraine government steps up fighting separatist rebels. around 5000 people had been wounded. russia has sent what it calls a massive convoy of humanitarian aid for residents of eastern ukraine, but the delivery has been held up amidst ukrainian government accusations russia is trying to smuggling ammunition to the rebels or stage a pretext for an invasion. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. we go now to ferguson, missouri. that was the scene in ferguson, missouri just outside of st. louis last night as police fired tear gas, stun grenades, and smoke bombs to break up a fifth night of protests following the fatal shooting of michael brown, the unarmed african-american teenager who was shot dead on saturday. the police say brown assaulted an officer and try to reach for his weapon. i witnesses say brown was shot with his arms up as he tried to flee in officers fire. local police have still not released the name of the officer who shot him. police said an autopsy confirmed brown died of old will gunshot wounds refused to say how many times he died or releasing more details pending toxicology results, which could take eggs. an attorney for brown's family said the teen's body has been turned over to them and they plan to seek a second autopsy. on wednesday, officials confirmed the justice department had opened a federal civil rights investigation into the shooting. last night, police arrested at least 10 people including st. louis alderman antonio french who has been posting video online of the protest and appeared on democracy now! earlier this week. journalists from the washington post and huffington post were also arrested last night and then released without charges. they were arrested while working on stories at a mcdonalds restaurant. >> at times the streets of ferguson looked like a war zone this week as police patrol the streets in armored vehicles. news photographers captured a striking image earlier this week of a team of police officers dressed in military gear, pointing their high-powered guns at a young african-american man who has his hands in the air. the defensereports logistics agency has confirmed the ferguson police department is part of a federal program in which the pentagon distributes hundreds of millions of dollars of surplus military equipment from the wars in iraq and afghanistan to civilian police forces across the country. for the latest on ferguson, we go to st. louis where we're joined by patricia bynes, democratic committeewoman of ferguson township. she has been in the streets every night documenting the protest on twitter. take you so much for joining us. can you describe what took place last night? >> good morning. first,ght started -- tensions are continuing to rise. it has been a very volatile situation going on in the community. there have been tear gas prior to the two nights before. even tuesday night, there was another officer involved shooting that happened. so things continue to escalate. there were peaceful protests during the day. i know there was a call to ask people not to demonstrate at night. i just don't see how that is not going to happen. the protesters and residents who support this cause are not going to be forced to stay in their houses when they want to show just how unjust this really, really is. last night it got very chaotic quickly. this was the most, i guess, visceral response i've seen by the police so far. aey had the armored cars out lot sooner than i had expected. they had police in military uniform sitting on top of the trucks snapper looking rifles pointed at people in the daylight. people were protesting in the day will stop even a church group had come down on a flatbed musicand playing gospel and they still had his artillery-looking equipment on the street. it was scary even in the daylight. as it started to get dark, things are more out of control. >> patricia bynes, what about this whole issue of the police chief refusing to release the name of the officer or even any details about how many times michael brown was shot? what has been the impact of that resistance to provide the basic information? >> this as to the level of mistrust. people in the community know who the officer is because he shot mike brown in broad daylight in the morning. for the people in the community, they know the police officer. they think it is right to release his name -- >> can you tell us his name? >> i'm not going to do that. in the there are people community who may have been harassed by this officer. if we make his name known, they might have a chance to come forward and tell other things that he may offend other people. at this is the type of people that is aggravating the community and really making things worse. >> i want to turn to the atorters who were arrested mcdonald's. washington post reporter wesley lowery and huffington post reporter ryan reilly were both arrested wednesday after police in swat gear entered a mcdonald's where they were working and ordered everyone to leave. ryan reilly said the police asked him for an id after he started taking photos. he spoke to msnbc. >> the worst part was he slammed my head against the glass on the way out of the mcdonald's and sarcastically apologized for it. he essentially acted as a military force. it was incredible. >> that is ryan reilly who was arrested along with wesley lowery. lowery said the police slammed him into a soda machine, one point setting off the coke dispenser. later on, l.a. times reporter matt pearce tweeted -- i heard a debate this morning, patricia bynes, on cnn where the person defending the police officers was saying, you don't know. don't rush to judgment. they might have arrested the reporters to protect them. patricia bynes? >> oh, wow. that is the type of protection needs these days? it is adding filter the fire of a community that doesn't re trust them. -- it is adding fuel to the fire to community that already doesn't trust them. anre was tear gas thrown at al jazeera crew last night and police came and took down their cameras. if they're concerned about looking thorough, it is just not looking fair. in the community is calling for a fair and thorough investigation and st. louis county thinks they can do that, this type of karzai military activity and trying to come down hard on the media doesn't help that. aboutld you talk somewhat the town of ferguson and the history of development of racial tensions with the police force, and now overwhelmingly majority black community yet the police forces almost totally white? >> right. we have a history of certain municipalities and the st. louis county that the majority of the population that live there are black budget a social economic reasons, they don't participate in the political process. it tends to be a little more complicated and st. louis county because you level of municipal government and the level of county government, you have different political body for school board and answer narrative a different political body for the fire board. so people who are worried about, can i get a job, can i get to work, cannot put food on the table? when election day rolls around, they don't really think about that. the people in the community who tend to be in a much better socioeconomic status who also might tend to be quite in those committees, they vote. unfortunately, the school board and the municipal or council boards or mayor board sometimes look nothing like the community that is actually there, but look like the people who continue to vote. it's frustrating because they pass laws that are actually working against the majority of the population there and only help protect small few. it is sad and frustrating. it is been going on for quite some time. it just seems like it has been bubbling up for a long time. >> patricia bynes, this issue of the ferguson police department been part of this federal program in which the pentagon distributes hundreds of millions of dollars worth of surplus military equipment from the wars in iraq and afghanistan, i mean, it is interesting because it certainly looks like that. were there military vehicles in the street? them with st. louis county swat on them. i have not necessarily seen tanks, but they have been in military garb. what usually has been happening, as the protest level, first police during the daytime are out in the regular police. as things escalate, they might start putting on the right terrific for your shields and the masks, holding the billy clubs. as the night proceeds, there seems to be a shift in change. you'll see the more military trucks come out as the sun starts going down. >> what is been the impact of some of the national african-american leaders like the reverend al sharpton who has been out there this week trying to urge calm and make ties between what has happened there in ferguson and the death of eric garner here in staten island, also another unarmed african-american man? as this helped the situation there were made it worse? >> i think for certain part of the community, it has made it better. i actually went to the very brief portion of the meeting that reverend al sharpton was supposed to be out. it was a very nice gathering. people were singing church songs and feeling good. many people in the community need to feel good sense that this is going to be ok and we will pray our way through this. as i looked at my twitter feed, things were escalating on the streets. i left the church and went down to the quiktrip, which has become the symbol of this movement. that is where i decided to stay. eventthat large peaceful that reverend al sharpton posted, they were bringing people from the quiktrip to this rally in the had a peaceful walk. in certain aspects, it is making things better. i think there are things going on, like they won't really show the autopsy results for the young man and the other officer involved shooting the night before. those are things that are adding to a very volatile situation here. willtricia bynes, we continue to cover this. the group anonymous has released a name of a police officer, but we cannot confirm this. patricia bynes is democratic committeewoman of ferguson township joining us from st. louis. break, i want to share a remarkable photo taken on wednesday by students at howard university, the historically black college in washington, d.c. it shows hundreds of students with their hands in the air. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. ofis the first anniversary the massacre in egypt. we will go to cairo and speak with people here in the studio. what does this all mean? stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. one year ago today, egyptian forces opened fire on the city and in rabaa al-adawiya square. tens of thousands of people had camped in the square to protest the ouster of democratically elected president mohammed morsi. over the course of a single day am a in what became known as the rabaa massacre, egyptian forces killed at least 800 people. >> now human rights watch has unveiled a new report that concludes egypt's actions likely constituted a crime against humanity, one of the worst violations of international law. the report puts the massacre on par with china's massacre of unarmed protesters at tiananmen square. in a video produced by human rights watch, witnesses described the carnage. i tried to help whoever came back. i had pepsi cola, which i poured on the faces of those affected by gas. i was shot in the face more than once with bird shot. >> human rights watch documented the killing of at least 817 people. at least 87 more people were killed in the same day dispersal of another sit in at al-nahda square. >> were joined now by kenneth roth attend to to enter egypt earlier this week to present the group's findings. if you middle east director sarah leah whitson were detained and turned away. for the first time in more than two decades for kenneth roth going to egypt. also joined by dr. abdul mawgoud dardery, former member of the egyptian parliament with the freedom and justice party, the muslim brotherhood's political arm, which is just been dissolved by a court. he left egypt after the coup and is living here in the u.s. most of his colleagues are in prison. and with us in cairo were we will begin is democracy now! correspondent sharif abdel kouddous. talk about the significance of this day. >> as you mentioned, this is one of the or the worst incident of violence in modern egyptian history. for me as a reporter, i have to several conflicts owns. it was the day must concentrated violence i have witnessed as a journalist. a very difficult day. it's early had the feel of a war zone being in rabaa. there was the sound of machine-gun fire everywhere, tear gas wafting in the sky, snipers on rooftops, people being shot while tried to run out of the square. inside the medical facility inside rabaa was the scene of mass grief and death. what is were being brought in almost every minute. people being shot in head and chest. the wounded were being brought in. it was extremely hot because the windows were closed to prevent the tear gas from coming in. the floor is almost slippery with blood. a continued for a number of hours. it was really a very difficult scene to witness. we sell protesters, people there began to write phone numbers of their loved ones on their arms, expecting they would be shot or wounded and writing down the number in felt pen on her arms for people to call if they were struck down. the next day, hundreds of bodies were brought to a nearby mosque. bodies inat least 240 that mosque alone. it was also very hot. family members and relatives were bringing in blocks of ice and placing them on the bodies to try to stave off the decay. the whole area really smelled of death. on rabaathe attack marked the beginning or the end of the ability to have real mass mobilizations in egypt. we've seen repression and crackdown in egypt by successive regimes, mubarak and armed forces, by the muslim brotherhood as well. but the scale of this was really very different. it was made possible by monthlong dehumanization campaign against the muslim ,rotherhood, calling them sheep portraying -- talking about them force.tians and an alien this was really whipped up by the media, both state and private media, during the rabaa sit in the trade as having s cabies and just the process of dehumanization. massacres before on july 8 and july 27 when scores of people were killed. this really laid the groundwork, allowing this massacre to happen . it was the scene of mass killings. what was most difficult really to witness was after leaving the square and witnessing all of this, to be greeted by cheers of applause outside. there was very little coverage both in the media or recognition by society at large, by the majority of society, of what had happened. it continues to this day. we see one prominent tv presenter the other day on his show called for the president sisi to name august 14 as a day of national celebration, as some sort of victory over the muslim brotherhood. the prime minister at the time has said he has no regrets about the decisions he took it would make the same decisions again. we're seeing today scatter protest by supporters of the muslim brotherhood and other people to commemorate the occasion. they have been quickly quashed by security forces which are out in full force today. apc's.re police and army i believe two people have been killed, dozens have been arrested. reportedly, police sergeant was shot. the violence continues to this day. >> kenneth roth of human rights watch, the importance of being able to not let the world forget what happened a year ago, you said this was one of the world's largest killings of demonstrators in a single day in recent history. >> it was probably the largest. are typical of the tiananmen massacre. here human rights watch as the name of 817 victims in rabaa square. was a likely the total number is about 1000. this is a crime against humanity, as amy said. it is a crime is simply should not be forgotten. the government is doing everything it can to sweep it under the rug. they literally built a monument in rabaa square to honor the police and the military. they gave bonuses to people who participated in the shooting. they have not cooperated with investigative attempts. they blocked me at your port when i tried to go present report. the government is stonewalling. it is important we pressed forward. if egypt itself won't investigate a crime of this magnitude, we call on the international community, particularly the u.n. human council.it >> your naming names of those responsible. >> we certainly are. two of the names, currently president sisi, a year ago was the defense minister and deputy prime minister. he was overall in charge. the person designated to run the operation was still current interior minister. going into the massacre from he anticipated thousands of dead. as your correspondent noted, there been a couple of incidents just in the prior month were 90 protesters were killed here, 60 there. so they knew violence was going to be a real risk. nonetheless, despite what happened, he said the day after everything had gone the accordig to plan. they actually covered up knowing would be possible to conduct a forensic investigation of the square. they distributed ammunition somewhat randomly so it would be difficult to trace it. they dr. the -- they doctored the police logs. they just stood by. >> were also joined by dr. abdul mawgoud dardery, was a member of the egyptian parliament with the muslim brotherhood, fled egypt since then. can you talk about the impact of that massacre and of the general crack out on a life of the ordinary egyptian citizens? >> thank you both for having me. and happy you're calling attention. all should pay attention. it is the world's largest killings of peaceful demonstrators to date. we are talking about 800 and we have an estimate about 1600. the number can be more than that. what we see now in egypt is crimes against humanity. almost a full year. i do apologize to kenneth roth for not being able to enter my home country. i, myself, cannot go back to egypt. it is not just you. there are many egyptians who were killed in the past year, thousands. those people are human beings. they have families, children, lives to live. many of them are members of parliament. they are in jail now. that is the tragedy that egypt is going through now. what we have is a criminal system. is trying to suffocate democracy and freedom -- all types of freedom. mostu demonstrate you likely either gay killed or end up in jail. if you move from one place to another, most likely they will arrest you. if you speak your mind or even even, decide -- a sign children who used the sign, ended up in jail. that is the symbol of the rabaa. rabaa means four. that is the name of the square where this took place. this woman is known to be highly spiritual. she was very spiritual and decided not to accept oppression by any means. rabaa is very important. peacefulsents resistance. this day commemorates two things. number one, hundreds of people got killed that day. for nothing but standing up for democracy. and the will of the people to be respected. number two, egyptians are determined both inside and outside the country not to accept the status quo or except the fear. we will never accept this. we will continue -- today, people are killed and imprisoned. we will continue this march toward freedom, peacefully, until democracy and freedom and social justice and human dignity are back. >> did you know people who died on that day one year ago today at the rabaa massacre? >> yes. i know many of them. many of them are close friends. i know in my hometown, at least [indiscernible] the first one was working assist supervisor in ancient antiquities. he was a great man. he was so humble. if you sell the funeral, thousands of people would behind him -- if you saw the funeral, thousands of people were behind him. the second one was my office manager when i was running for office in the parliament. he was a young man who loved egypt. he left democracy. he wanted to live in democracy. he was working in my office assisting me and egyptians to provide services. he lost his life and that they left his wife will stop he was just married. >> could you talk about when you left egypt under the circumstances in which he left in the difficulty now for you and many former muslim brotherhood members being able to return? free wanted to live in a society as egyptians. we wanted to enjoy the freedom that other people in the world enjoy. that is why we went to the streets during mubarak's regime. progress,r economic freedom, social justice, and human dignity. we were able to get this. a democraticanted alternative. we were moving surely the slowly. unfortunately, the state of mubarak, in addition to the corrupt offices of the military and the police and judiciary and officials decided to and the democratic process. they kidnap the president, killed thousands of people and imprisoned thousands. and now suffocating all caps of freedom. when the coup took place, it was shocking. with cnn andrview they tell me, what are you going to do now? i said, we will do what americans did. give me liberty, or give me death. i will never accept to live under this type of state again. i cannot afford living in a state of oppression. not just me, millions of egyptians. days fromst 400 egyptians have been going to the streets day in and day out. they know they will either get killed or imprisoned, but they were determined to remain peaceful and their march. >> in your report, kenneth roth, the coup government said at the square, they fired in self-defense, that there were people armed at the square that they. could you talk about what you found in your investigation? >> it is important to talk about the egyptian government's defense because it is so flimsy. yes, there was violence in the square. we describe it in detail in the report. on the periphery of the square, there were men throwing molotov cocktails and the police themselves report having found 15 firearms among the tens of thousands of people in the square. >> you estimated the were about 85,000 people there that they? >> it was a very large number. there were eight police officers killed at rabaa square the day compared to 817 demonstrators killed. what we found is rather than the police focused and targeting on people who posed a threat to them, they were basically firing it is criminally the protesters. there were snipers on the roofs who are simply picking people off. at one point, they're shooting anybody who entered rabaa hospital in what became known as sniper's alley. police were firing indiscriminate liane the crowd. were getting better and that the crowd. it is just wrong. it is not a war. this is just one sided repression. the standard is, you can easily enforce only with lethal threat. that was flouted here. >> marie harf was questioned about the human rights watch report and whether its findings would impact the was decision to resume hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to egypt. >> in light of this initial read of the report, is there any misgiving or regret on the part of the u.s. government for releasing some of the military aid that was held back a year ago? >> no. we have made decisions about our policies toward egypt based on our national security interest as they have made some good progress -- i would stress some and limited. we made decisions based on our security interest in how it can help a we have also held some things back, even today as well. >> that was the state department spokesperson marie harf. united states announced in april it would resume 650 million dollars in military aid after it was suspended last are following morsi's ouster. >> each time he is there, he talks about the progress being made toward democracy. i don't know what glasses he is wearing, but no one else sees that progress. in essence, the state department spokeswoman was saying because egypt is an important security ally in fighting terrorism and helping israel fight for mass, the us government has basically decided to sell the egyptian people down the aisle. here's a government that is committed the biggest massacre of demonstrators in recent history in washington says, who cares? here, have a few million dollars. >> abdul mawgoud dardery, you're now living here in the united states. your reaction to the failure of this democracy to stand up for democracy in egypt? >> sometimes i don't call it failure, i call it the trail -- betrayal. i remember when president obama visited cairo and gave that wonderful speech. we did believe his democracy speech in cairo. it was very unfortunate that the united states administration, the eu also betrayed their own ideas supporting democracy. it is not going help us with better relations. we are losing. egyptians are being killed by american aid. americans are paying money -- that should be the old days policy, not the new days policy. today's a day of democracy, day of freedom. this cannot be accepted. i believe once americans know what their government is doing, they will not accept it. it is very unfortunate this is happening now. when sharif was mentioning earlier the people who shared as he came out of the square during the massacre, do you in retrospect think maybe the brotherhood, when it was in power, may have committed some errors that allowed other sectors of the population to turn, to back the generals? >> the freedom and justice party as a political party. all political parties make mistakes. who doesn't? president obama's part in makes mistakes. but does this allowed to go and kidnap president obama? kill thousands of americans? mistakes are to be corrected in a democratic process. you vote the people out, not kill them. was as happening in egypt media propaganda, fascist propaganda. are saying we would like to kill americans if we find them in the streets of cairo. that is not only against egypt, egypt has now become one of the worst, if not the worst, country and relationship to foreign visitors. that is why the tourism industry is a must collapsing in my hometown. and the rest of the country. what you see in egypt is a scenario -- everyone is losing. the military, the egyptian people are losing, europe and america are losing. democracy is dead. it is the only alternative for egypt. the military has to stay out of power, out of the political -- sharif, i want to ask about the latest news in egypt. on wednesday, former egyptian dictator hosting the bright spoke before cairo -- hosni mubarak spoke. he denied he ordered the killing tahriresters in the 2011 square uprising. who ismmed hosni mubarak before you today, did not wonder at all the killing of protesters, did not order at all the killing of protesters or the shedding of the blood of egyptians. and i did not issue an order to cause chaos and i never issued an order to create a security vacuum. >> that ishosni mubarak, the egyptian dictator. sharif abdel kouddous, can you talk about the significance as you stand in cairo? thes you said, this is first comment that millions of egyptians saw from mubarak since his ouster in february 11 2011. he appeared in court many times before, televised, but wasn't speaking. he would be this supine figure lying on a cot in a jail cell -- i'm sorry, in the defendant's cage. yesterday, he appeared sitting up and gave this link the address where he took the opportunity to highlight the so-called achievements during his 30 year rule and spoke very, very briefly about the charges in the case. just that one tiny clip you mention. he spent most of the time talking about giving a political defense of his three decades rule. ofs was beamed to millions egyptians in their homes on tv. this is not -- this comes in stark contrast to the trials against activists and protesters and supporters who have been jailed and really sham trials, no real opportunity to defend themselves, and have been locked up and very harsh draconian, deplorable conditions. to 80 deaths in custody over the past year. in polices been custody, but in a hospital room overlooking the nile. he did not really answer much of those charges, but the verdict is supposed to come down on september 27 in this case. this is a retrial of a 2012 for being he got complicit in the killing of protesters in 2011. in the uprising against his rule. does notnot guilty, he walk free. you still serving three years on a separate embezzlement case. i want to quickly go back to address some of what the other guests were saying -- >> we have 20 seconds. >> the scale of the repression we're seeing right now is unprecedented but there were serious violations by the muslim brotherhood that cheered police crackdown on protesters against their rule as well. seeingle of what we're is completely different. it is really trying to stamp out the search of collective empowerment that coursed through the citizenry over the past or for that brief period for a couple of years and made the government really afraid of the people instead of the people afraid of the government. that is what the main aim is for this repression that is being really flaunted by the governments right now. correspondentow! sharif abdel kouddous reporting from cairo, egypt. i want to thank our guest here in new york, kenneth roth from human rights watch. we will have a link to his report. he was denied entry to egypt this past week. and dr. abdul mawgoud dardery from a former member of the egyptian parliament. when we come back, we go to new mexico to an immigration jail. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. and finally today, the obama administration is fast tracking the deportation of more than 63,000 women and children from central america who fled to the united states to escape violence in their home countries. us to the unaccompanied minors detained at the borders since january have been placed with family members as her cases are processed. >> many children who are caught with their mothers are being sent to new family detention centers that have more than 1200 beds and cribs. democracy now! producer renée feltz visited one of them and filed this report. >> the repatriation policy is in full effect in a small town of new mexico. home to a detention center with cribs that holds more than 600 central american women and children. >> it is in the middle of the desert. a detention center sprung up in a place hundreds of miles from any major city. ofthis is the legal director the new mexico immigration law center. she and other advocates were given a tour of the trailer like holdings where migrants are held in a vacant area at training camp report patrol agents. i ask for a tour, but i said no one was available. this is how jordi describes what she saw inside. >> what i saw shock to me. we showed up and there are trailers, temporary structures. we saw women and children roaming freely in one area around what they call the pods where they live. the pods have bunk beds with about eight people to one room. i went back to the detention facility the day after the tour was interesting because in that moment, the show was over. children were not eating. children were getting very sick. every child i saw looked incredibly you may see at it. had kind of a hollow look in their eyes. one mother had her very sick a b on her lap. her baby was coughing so much he began to choke and she said, he hasn't eaten in six days. he is lost weight. he has lost five pounds. for a toddler, that is a lot of weight. the toddler looks like he was dying in front of me. >> after speaking with jordi and curvy, i drove four hours south. much of the time i was out of cell phone range. when i finally got to the federal law enforcement training center, i was told i could only film across the street where there is no sidewalk but plenty of fire ants. the detention area was behind a high fence covered in vinyl and hard to see. the neighbors a quiet field and at one point, i thought i could hear children speaking in spanish. eventually, i drove to a church a few minutes away from the detention center where children played outside and local members of the state wide group were holding their first meeting about the more than 600 detainees now in their community. francisco.is i see myself in the children, actually. my mother came to the united states first. then she sent for us. then we had to travel with one they callotes, as them. eventually, we got together with my mother. after that, i have been serving as public for 35 years caseworker, counselor, and teacher. i teach spanish the local high school. i have been serving the united states for 35 years but it all started like these people. my purpose here tonight is to stand up for these children, to show my face in favor of the children. let's treat the children right. >> as the sun went down, i finally got a call from a lawyer who had just finished her 12 hour day of meeting with detainees. i'm the private immigration attorney from boulder, colorado. i usually have a voice. is virtually impossible for these people, these women and children to be represented. compellingsolutely to me. because i was able to clear two weeks off my schedule, i came down. >> she was among the first lawyers to come here when it opened. 12 days after she arrived, i found her working late into the night with a handful of other lawyers from around the country. they had set up an emergency office inside the chamber of commerce. >> this is our war room. just like the government has to start up a detention center out of nowhere, we really had to start of a legal services access provider out of nowhere. this is it. if you're going to have a bunch of volunteer attorneys come into town, yet have some place for them to sit on a wi-fi, a printer, a place to post notices. we talked about challenges during the day and strategize how to basically do some good old-fashioned guerrilla lawyering. >> laura has been practicing immigration law for 20 years and is a past president of the american immigration lawyers association. >> this is honduras, guatemala, and also adore. these are people running away from countries that do not have effective governments, where it is extremely dangerous. people are fleeing family violence, predatory gangs. we've seen it all. these are viable claims. everybody that is being processed through the centers, everyone that is asking the united states government to consider their claim of credible fear are people who have actually followed the law and done exactly what they're supposed to do. they have essentially come to our border and knocked on the door and said i'm a hear my case. so system is in place is stacked against them. but the problem begins when the migrants are first obtained at the border and asked if they are free to return home. again ,megan jordi. >> they were asked if they were frayed right when they were apprehended, faced with an adversarial process, taken to ,hat they all the icebox holding facility in texas before people are moved to detention centers. keep in mind these are folks who are fleeing governments, fleeing people who look like those who are apprehending them in that moment i met people in uniform. >> several lawyers i spoke with said ice off his ears were in earshot of where they met with her crying -- with their clients. they said lack of privacy made it hard for detainees to fully described it danger they're trying to escape. are the children get separated from their mothers. that creates obvious complications. woman's claim involves sexual violence, that is hard to talk about in front of your children. most of the people i've talked to are people really afraid of being killed. to express that fear in front of your children when they may end up having to go back to that situation, it has huge consequences. >> one long-term study has found child migrants who have a lawyer are allowed to stay in about half of their cases. in contrast, nine out of 10 kids without an attorney are deported. most of those held at the center have no lawyer to help with their asylum claims. for those are able to connect with an attorney and when a hearing, the meeting is held over a 20 inch video screen with a judge in arlington, virginia. if their fears considered credible, the mother and child are kept in detention, held without bond while their cases are resolved. government exists on expedited removal, there is no sectioning of a fair trial. this is no way to treat people. this is something we should be ashamed of. >> i am renée feltz for democracy now! >> thanks so much to renée feltz who shot and reported that story. earlier this month, second detention center for women and city,en opened in corinth texas. it is reportedly already full. we will have a link to more information on democracynow.org. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to [email protected] or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. 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