house. faith salie will report our cover story. >> introducing dan mulhern. husband of jennifer granholm, former governor of michigan. he can tell you all about the job of first gentleman. >> you don't make the decisions. you're a coach or consultant, you're a supporter, you're a cheerleader. you're an encourager. but keep that clear in your mind. she's the boss. >> america's first gentleman. ahead on "sunday morning." >> pauley: then it's on to the philadelphia story. the story of the city beyond the democrats' convention hall. mo rocca is our guide. >> philadelphia. where the liberty bell and the rocky statue get equal billing. once upon time it was the nation's capital. >> it has a chip on its south floridaer. >> about what? >> the rest of the world. >> we'll find out how to properly eat the local delicacy. >> how about the day they ran santa claus out of town. >> most people would just say that santa deserved it. >> later on "sunday morning." >> pauley: donald trump was the story in cleveland this past week. and this morning we hear from the republican presidential nominee as he talks to our senior contributor ted koppel. >> i love the media. >> not really. donald trump's relationship with the press has been anything but a love fest. you've had your share of misstatements over the past few months. >> i think that i'm an honest person. i feel lime an honest person. i don't mind being criticized at all by the media but i do want them to be straight. >> donald trump and the media and getting his message across now that the convention is over. ahead on "sunday morning." >> pauley: the summer screen offers plenty of alternatives to convention viewing. featuring among other things the new role for a star with plenty of memorable roles to her credit. not that she's taking anything for granted. as she'll be telling our tracy smith. >> i'm no. going to break in. >> from private eye to princess. kristen bell always makes it look easy. but don't let the looks fool you. have there been bumps? >> oh, god, yeah. may end at any moment. my end before this interview is over and i just -- what a wonderful ride it was. >> the fantastically real kristen bell ahead this "sunday morning." >> pauley: anthony mason introduces us to arts on the streets of philadelphia. with david pogue we'll watch pioneers wedging it around the world in a plane powered by the sun's rays. we'll mark the passing of legendary director garry marshall. say so long to the vcr and more. first, the headlines for "sunday morning" the 24th of july, 2016. at a rally in miami yesterday, hillary clinton introduced her vice presidential running mate to democrats. he's 58-year-old tim kaine, senator and former governor of virginia. kaine is fluent in spanish and a long time proponent of gun control. >> you want a "you're fired" president or "you're hired" president? >> tonight scott pelley will talk with the new democratic running mate on "60 minutes." on the eve of the democratic convention, wiki leaks released thousands of hacked e-mails from democratic national committee officials. some of them dismissed or make light of the candidacy of senator bernie sanders. authorities in munich say they are still investigating the motive behind friday's shooting attack that left nine people dead and more than two dozen wounded. they say the 18-year-old gunman had no links to terror groups, suffered from depression and was obsessed with mass killings. firefighters are battling two out of control wildfires in california. the biggest near santa clarita has burned across 20,000 acres and forced hundreds from their homes. now, the weather. it's still scorching hot across the lower 48. the heartland and east will really bake with 90 degree-plus temperatures. there's a chance of thunderstorms over the southwest. looking ahead, more heat monday. then scattered storms from compost to coast. >> how are you? >> pauley: ahead. what it takes to be a first j. and later -- philadelphia cheese steak etiquette from mow rocca. jay we don't hear very much about the firstj certainly not as much 'brought our first ladies. but come november that could change. our "sunday morning" cover story is from faith salie. >> good morning. >> meet andy moffit. husband. a working father. and gardner in chief. >> the other day i was out there cutting the hedges and some guy came by said, does the governor live here? if you see her tell her she's doing a great job. >> and it's pretty easy for andy moffit to get an audience with the governor of rhode island. he's married to her. gina ramon depo is the first female governor of the state. which makes her husband the first -- what? >> i do remember being at an event where i was -- there was a group of seniors, introducing me sort of paused, this is andy, he's -- what, what's your title again? looked back i explained first j. all the older men and women all laughed and giggle. >> andy moffit is rhode island's first, first gentleman. and now that title may not roll off the tongue you might want to get used to it. >> hello can i'm mike haley. first. south carolina. >> from michael haley in south carolina to dan little of oregon. there are now six, count 'em, six first gentlemen in the united states. and while we don't know if the title of the cookbook, the first gentleman of oklahoma, sums up his take on the job. dan mulhern, former first gentleman of michigan, says the role reversal can be humbling. his wife, jennifer granholm, served two terms as governor. >> did it change your marriage? >> oh, sure, yeah. >> how? >> for a man to see your wife in the position of power and prominence all the time. you have to think about how to manage yourself and how to manage your ego and how to play roles that are unusual roles. >> . >> in fact, mulhern, a lawyer and teacher at uc berkeley, says he'd actually considered running for office himself. but it was during his wife's first campaign for attorney general that his role began to change. >> she gave a big speech at the convention, 3,000 people packed in. she was amazing. i was holding my son. and this horrific smell starts wafting up to me from his back side. and so i was on the floor in a booth room stall with my son on a plastic diaper pad changing him. and i was just fussing like crazy with myself. i can't believe i'm here. i can't am i here? i can't believe i'm doing this now. >> during his wife's first term, mulhern sought advice from, who else, a former first lady. paula blanchard of michigan. >> i said to her, how did you decide what role you would play? and she said, your primary role is emotional. >> what did that mean? >> well, it meant a loft things. i was the lead in the family and at that time our children were 8, 7 and 1. you think of yourself as smart, you think of yourself as up on the ideas, you think you have talents. but that's not where you're supposed to be. >> the duties of the first spouse have never been one size fits all. >> it's a very amorphous job. a job without a definition. >> lisa kathleen graddy is a curator of the first ladies exhibit at the smithsonian washington, d.c. it. >> all depends of what we expect of women and first ladies at that time. >> dolly madison established the white house as a backdrop for social diplomacy. she also, you may recall, really knew how to pack up and move in a hurry. >> dolly madison, the white house was burned by the british in 1814 managed to save it. >> a century and a half later jacqueline kennedy reigned domestic. famously restoring her new home. >> columbia island is a gift of nature -- >> lady bird johnson's the first to enter the job with an announced slate of programs, including highway beautification. our more recent first ladies have taken on issues like health care, literacy and obesity. how much of what we expect of first ladies and of a first gentleman has to do with our expectations of gender? >> i think almost all of it has to do with our expectations of gender. i don't think that people are necessarily going to expect a first gentleman to do the christmas decoration tour. but we just don't know. >> maybe we should. >> maybe we should. >> take one of rhode island's first gentleman andy moffit's first tasks. you actually held a tea for a former -- >> did i. >> of rhode island? >> realize i have a platform is as first gentleman and i have real license, i have an intention to do something with it to make an impact on our state. they were very encouraging in this way. >> these days while his wife's at the state house, moffit is focusing on his causes, food and hunger-related issues. that is, when he's not working for a management consulting firm. which bring us to this guy. who may soon find himself with a wife who's president -- >> she is the best i've ever known. >> and a case of serious role reversal. >> you don't make the decisions. your wife makes the decisions. you're a coach or consultant, you're a supporter. you're a cheerleader. you're an encourager. but keep that clear in your mind. she's the boss. >> still to hear man mulhern tell it, there's nothing second rate about being first gentleman if you had to assign adjectives, you know, my years as first gentleman were -- what would you say? >> extraordinary. you know, magical. really confusing. disempowering. humbling, uplifting. very sweet. very sweet. lots of pride at my wife. extraordinary feelings of pride for my wife. >> pauley: we're off to gibraltar, next. that's all i crave.e that's where this comes in. only nicorette gum has patented dual-coated technology for great taste. plus nicorette gum gives you intense craving relief. and that helps put my craving in its place. that's why i only choose nicorette. we owhat made their mystskin more radiant?nt. what?! wait! only dove has 1/4 moisturizing cream. smooth dewy skin. dove, your daily beauty treatment for radiant skin. hey, you're yes, sir. clarence! you know, at the model year end clarence event, you can get a great deal on this 2016 passat. steve. yeah? clarence is on a roll. yeah. i wish they'd name an event after me. same here. but the model year end becky event? that's no good... stevent! that's just vandalism. whatever you want to call it, don't miss the volkswagen model year end event. hurry in for a one-thousand dollar volkswagen reward card and 0% apr on a new 2016 passat. introduces new, easy-to-swallow tablets. so now, there are more ways, for more people... to experience... complete protection from frequent heartburn. nexium 24hr. the easy-to-swallow tablet is here. >> pauley: now a page from our "sunday morning" almanac. july 24, 1704. 312 years ago today. the day britain and its dutch allies seized gibraltar from spain. located at europe's southern tip, gibraltar and its towering rock dominate the narrow strait between the mediterranean and atlantic. granted sovereignty by the treaty much utrecht in 1713, britain transformed gibraltar in to a fortress and naval base. unreconciled to the loss, spain imposed the land blockade of the tiny territory in 169 which lasted until 1985. >> at midnight in gibraltar a guard opened rusty green gates that for 15 years divided the tiny peninsula. >> rich in history, gibraltar is a prime tourist destination. famous for indigenous monkeys and, of course, for its landmark rock, nearly 1400 feet high. grin brail tore looms large in our popular culture as bell. it rates lyric in the tune "our love is here to stay." ♪ and it graced the opening of the cbs news series "the 20th century" back in the 150s and '60s. it was in gibraltar that beatle john lennon wed yoko ono. nation and border may come and go but barring a catyclism it's very clear the rock of gibraltar is here -- ♪ is here to stay. it's here to stay. >> the nooks and crannies. >> pauley: coming up, philadelphia. food for thought. if you have a typical airline credit card, you only earn double miles when you buy stuff from that airline. wait...is this where you typically shop? 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>> no. mostly people from out of town who run the steps. >> from the top of those steps you can look over george washington's shoulder to where the country was born. >> the revolution was a revolution of ideas. those ideas were feerm mu late and debated here. >> visitors swarm the liberty bell and independence hall. where both the declaration of independence and the constitution were signed. >> pennsylvania is biggest delegation -- >> at the national constitution center they get up close and personal with the founding fathers. >> ben franklin is extremely popular. he used to have the famous franklin glasses on. but the tourists kept touching the franklin glasses, they broke the glasses. we tried i think three pair and finally gave up. >> you just gave him lasik. >> but look, that's how often he gets touched compared to the others. >> everywhere you turn in philadelphia history is just around the corner. this is elfretha's alley. it's the oldest continually inhabited street in america. this city also has country's first hospital, first library, first stock exchange. and its first art museum. >> there are plenty of places to go for a cheese steak. >> hard to get a bad cheese steak in philadelphia. i live in this neighborhood this is my favorite. >> history, not to mention geography has not always been kind to philadelphia. which was the nation's capital from 1790 until 1800. i chewed the fat with governor rendell who was actually born in new york city. you're a transplant. what do you think you notice about philadelphia that philadelphians may not notice about themselves? >> the city has a little bit of inferiority complex. in colonial times we were the most sophisticated in the country now we're 100 miles south of the financial capital of the world and 150 miles north of the political capital. so it makes philadelphians a little defensive, they sort of feel interior. >> we associate all the founding fathers with philadelphia but -- >> most of them aren't from fill nill. >> joe queenan is an essayist and somewhat grumpy son. >> there's the philly that is the cradle of american democracy then the fill ly that has what ed rendell calls inferiority complex. >> i wouldn't call it a complex as it has a chip on its shoulder. >> about what? >> the rest of the world. >> the rest of the world has a long history of lapping at the city. cy fields repeatedly said, i once spent a year in fell fill. i think it was on is sunday. >> philadelphia will do. >> then there are the long suffering fans of the city's football team, the eagles. >> the last time the eagles won the championship was right here in this field. >> in 1960? >> yeah. >> last year eagles' fans were named by "sports illustrated" as the most hated in the nfl. after all, they are the ones who, on a truly legendary day on franklin field launch add snowball attack against santa claus. >> you are here that day in 1968, what happened? >> well, the santa that eagles had hired got sick. they saw this guy in santa suit. wasn't a great san. that then they poor substitute santa out, i think he got barely half way around before he said, no mas. >> why is this story so well-known? >> people like any story that trashes philadelphia. and most people in philadelphia would just say that santa deserved it. >> clearly philadelphia has its standards. >> the key to the cheese steak is cheez whiz. >> you want it to get into the nooks and crannies. >> the cheese steak and epic misstep by john kerry when he ran for president. >> john kerry came in order add cheese shake with swiss cheese. unheard of. we have been better skipping the cheese steak entirely. >> there's a right way to eat it, too is. i should point out that you are eating a cheese steak wearing a very nice suit. >> it can be done. but you have to lean forward at all times. it's actually called the philadelphia lean. >> like a slouch? or is it a -- >> you lean forward. very important. >> it's actually good for your digestion a little bit, too. >> ed rendell not just an etiquette expert. as the chairman of the democratic convention host committee he's working to reclaim fell fill's glory. >> i came up with the slogan, let's make history again. applauding to the fact that history was made the first convention in the united states with the continental congress. i was alluding to the fact that we probably nominate first woman candidate to be president. let's make history again. >> fit were bernie the first jewish president. >> no, the first social list president. >> philadelphia is actually the greek word for brotherly love. hence, the traditional slogan, city of brotherly love. it is was named in 1681 by founder william penn who still presides from atop city hall. 335 years later, philadelphia is still defining itself. >> i saw a sign, it was an advertisement for pill pill and it said, with love from, philadelphia. that is so wrong. that's so unphiladelphia. used to have a campaign, philadelphia the city that loves you back. it's just not a loveable place. it's not a place that's warm. it's a place that, take it or leave it. in fact, we would prefer that you leave it. >> pauley: coming up -- >> scourge with that young man. >> the art of forgiveness. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works... ...in one week. with the... fastest retinol formula. ...to visibly reduce wrinkles. neutrogena®. want great whitening without the mess? think outside the box colgate optic white toothbrush plus whitening pen for 5 shades whiter teeth. brush, whiten, go! no mess, no waiting, no rinsing. colgate optic white toothbrush plus whitening pen. >> pauley: this artwork is a larger piece called sanctuary. a huge mural soon to take its place on the streets of philadelphia. paint the town could be the motto of the campaign that brightened so many city walls while lifting so many people's spirits. anthony mason takes us on a walking tour. is. >> philadelphia has an iconic art museum. but some of this city's most impressive artwork is out on the street. an outdoor art gallery that pays homage to the ordinary and to the epic. one of the latest to be unveiled features pope francis who sign add panel on his visit to the city last year. how many murals have you done now? >> we have created close to 4,000 since 1984. >> are you running out of walls yet? >> no. we have a giant waiting list. >> this is a big space. how big is this? >> it's huge. almost 200 feet long. >> jane goldena stanford educated dynamo, created the philadelphia mural arts program. >> this takes how long to create? >> this is a year's worth of work. >> the most prolific of its kind in the world. what is that power that art has? >> oh, it's great. i could just jump up and down. it is to uplift. it's to inspire. it's challenge. it's to educate. it's to connect us. >> golden was hired by the city in 1984 to lead a short-term anti-grieve campaign. >> people were stopping every minute. this is in credible. >> the first project, repainting the spring garden street bridge. >> no one was writing on it. that's what everyone expected. that the work we were doing back then would be completely vandalized. >> philadelphia's mural arts program would grow from that. golden became an evangelist for the transformative power of art. >> this mural is about addiction and recovery. >> 1200 artists contributed to the mural on this methadone clinic. many of them, patience. >> i'd make site visits here. i no longer feel like an addict i feel like an artist. i cannot be here, somebody here. suddenly it's humanizing you're painting right next to someone who is very different from you. but are they really different. everybody has struggles. >> not just about making pretty pictures. >> that's right. as great as that is. there's something else going on. i saw that back in the day. >> the process of creating is as important as the creation itself. each community helps determine a mural's subject. an experienced artist then coordinates a diverse theme of workers. some might come from the mural arts after-school program. like 16-year-old ailisha goodwin-dancy studying with the program since she was ten. >> i came out of my shell and part of something amazing. i hope it inspires someone else. >> dawan williams and his 11-year-old son first worked on this mural together when he was in prison for a drug offense. part of a program to connect inmates with their children. >> this mural represents reunification of family. we were able to see each other every week. we were able to bond on a deeper level. >> he is now a coordinator for mural arts. leading recently released inmates on projects. so is michael, who took mural arts classes when he was in prison. >> it's like you locked in a cell. but at the same tile you go in there, you're free. you're somewhere else. >> michael had done time for a shooting in 2003. he didn't pull the trigger, but he provided the gun that shot and paralyzed then 19-year-old kevin johnson. when he joined mural arts, out of prison, michael told jane golden he wanted to visit the victim of his crime to say he was sorry. >> i remember like it was yesterday. he took me to see kevin. >> you got there, you were in the car, you didn't want to get out. >> no. >> i said, there's a problem here. because this car's not turning around. i said, michael, i'm going to tell what you real courage s. courage is getting out of this vehicle and going up to that young man and apologizing. >> when you saw him get out of the car what were you thinking? >> well, my son smiled. >> janice jackson is kevin's mother. >> he smiled. those words, once he was able to speak was, mom, just forgive. >> that allowed you to find forgive insurance. >> allowed me. >> before kevin died of his injuries in 2006 he and michael became friends. >> i felt i was righting my wrong. it's a feeling i can't explain. >> the mural was michael's idea. >> that is kevin's graduation picture. >> it depicts kevin and his mom. >> that's exactly how i hold my hands. >> it's called simply "forgiveness." >> when you see it now, what do you see? >> i see redemption. i see a lot. i see forgiveness. i want people to look at that mural and just realize that it's never too late to change. forgive suns powerful. to this day i still don't get why and how she forgave me. >> but she did that's pretty powerful thing. >> yes. >> forgive suns just one of thousands of murals in philadelphia. >> it's holding up a mirror to people and saying that your life counts. it's the autobiography of our city. jane we'll remember garry marshall, next. i'm hillary clinton and i approved this message. who do you talk to for military advice right now? well, i watch the shows. i mean i really see a lot of great - you know, when you watch your show and all of the other shows... while donald trump watched tv, as secretary of state, hillary clinton negotiated a cease fire in gaza. a reduction in nuclear weapons... took on vladimir putin... and stood up against the trafficking of human beings. a steady leader in an unsteady world. >> pauley: it happened this past week, the loss of hollywood's master of humor and romance. writer and director garry marshall died tuesday in burbank, california, of complications from pneumonia following a stroke. a child of the bronx, marshall became a television comedy writer in the 1960s. and had his first big hit in 1970 with the tv adaptation of neil simon's play "the odd couple." a succession of hit tv series followed. ♪ "happy days" with ron howard and henry winkler. ♪ "lavern and shirley" with his sister penny as one of the leads. and "mork and mindy" which launched an unknown robin williams into stardom. there were movies as well "pretty woman wisconsin richard gere and julia roberts. "the princess diaries" with julie andrews. >> why don't you just tuck one ankle behind the other. >> pauley: and many others. all of them playing to his strength. as he told our rita braver back in 2010. >> the type of work i do is, you know, it's called sentimental, it's called polly anna. whatever. at least they call me. >> pauley: garry marshall was 81. still to come, flying high. and flying high. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea, nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. >> pauley: donald trump won the republican nomination last week at a one of a kind convention after a one of a kind campaign. we asked our senior contributor ted koppel to travel to cleveland for the convention, his chat with trump is ahead. but first, he reports on what he heard and saw. >> they were still popping balloons late into the night but it's done. donald trump and the g.o.p. are hitched. but as is the case with more than a few weddings, there was some skeptics, but more the family elders tried to talk the kids out of it, one of those, he really isn't our kind of people conversations the more of the kids, the trump supporters dug their heels in. >> i've waited for donald trump to run for 20 years of my life. to me, this is the greatest thing to happen since ronald reagan. >> so the bushes and romneys the mccains and the kasichs, stayed home. even though ohio is home for john kasich. a full throated trump supporter who did come, former new york mayor, rudy guiliani. >> maybe we need somebody who has done nothing in politics, done a lot in other areas and can get us to rethink our politics. because our politics right now is dysfunctional. >> i said on the air very early, i believe this, trump is a theo fascist. >> for more than 40 years now the poster boy for what many republicans dislike and mistrust about the liberal media has been carl bernstein of watergate fame. but theo fascist? really? in a american sense, strong man who doesn't believe in democratic institutions or even understand, who just thinks he can come in and will his way to get people and movements and countries into submission. >> every trump supporter sees that -- >> goes rose. >> that sob carl bernstein. >> that's exactly right. i'm also going to say he has an unerring sense of the grievances. >> donald trump is here. >> good morning again. good to have you here. >> detractors think the press has given him a free ride. point to what the "new york times" estimates at $2 billion worth of free media coverage. positives coverage helps trump but even negative only seems to confirm the conviction among his supporters that their man can't get a fair shake. jeff greenfield has been writing about politics for 50 years. >> there's been a lot of anger on the part of a whole lot of people about how much free media was given to donald trump. what has been so interesting is that when the media began to raise really tough questions that would have disqualified almost any other candidate, so far, those challenges have not seemed to have any impact. >> trump's had to constepped with more than just liberal media. maybe you saw this cover from the "national review"? that's a conservative icon. they have been trashing trump, as has "the weekly standard" and the "wall street journal." conservative media. you'd have to consider the possibility that the more donald trump is rejected by party elders and revealed by commentators and columnists, the more operationally he's embraced by his supporters. >> look how many people tried to stop him from getting a nomination because they didn't like what he was doing. >> christopher was a member of the texas delegation. >> he was going to be messing up what they had been used to for, i don't know how long. donald trump is the type of person that is going to fire this country up. get this country passionate about being america again. >> among all media in the united states, none has more clout than the "new york times." adam nagourney is the l.a. bureau chief of the paper. andrew rows enthrall is a columnist. what is it about donald trump that makes those who support him so passionate in their love and admiration for him? >> i this think it's because he expresses things that they have been afraid to say. some of their anger and alienation and disaffection from what is going on around them. allowed them to be really enraged. that's a very poreful thing. >> if he does alienate his true believers by being more president shall and he can't appeal to the middle without being more president shall. is that a solvable problem? >> i think his gut is to go with a smash dishes campaign. the campaign that's gotten him where it is. i think it's fun. it's gotten him whatever the perception of voters. it will not get him the general election. i can never remember a candidate who is so blatantly said stuff that's just not true. as far as i can tell, paid no price for it. it doesn't seem to bother him at all or some of his supporters. >> you understand that he says some things that are untrue, demonstrably untrue. >> the willing suspension of disbelief. >> i watched when the world trade center came tumbling down. and i watched in jersey city, new jersey, when thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. >> trump support are david jones has absolute confidence in that account. >> we live in an era in which if a kitten falls into a toilet bowl there are three people with iphones there to record the event. >> yeah. >> if thousands of people on the day that the towers, the twin towers, came down, in this day and age were out there demonstrating, you don't think one person would have taken a picture of it? >> it was a very different time. >> we are not, as jeff greenfield underscores, talking about just an occasional fib. >> the "washington post" when it does its fact checks they found that roughly two-thirds of his statements are flatly, factually false. the dilemma is you can't in a newscast say, donald trump was serially lied his way through the last -- you can't do that. even if you thought that was true. >> even if you could stay something like that, media gate keepers have lost a lot of their impact. meet adam sharp. head of news, government and elections for twitter. >> donald trump has recognized that he can have a direct connection to millions of supporters, without having to rely on any third party infrastructure. it used to be a candidate would have to get booked on the evening news to reach millions of people with that sound byte they wanted to drive the agenda that day. donald trump picks up his phone, types a sentence, collision send. and now millions of people have that message delivered directly to them. >> what happens next is far from a foregone conclusion. a recent cbs news/"new york times" poll indicates that staggering majorities consider both trump and clinton untrustworthy. janne myrdal was a delegate from north carolina. >> you're an evangelical. >> yes, i am. >> it doesn't bother you that this guy's been married three times. >> >> yes, it does. it does. it bothers me more for the future of my children. i know what i'm getting with hillary. with trump we don't know yet. i agree with you. i'm a native of norway. i'm a citizen now. my brother called me, 300 million people in america, of this buffoon and this criminal family dynasty. can't you come up with somebody else? i said, apparently not. that's an honest answer. >> hi, dead. >> when we come back, the object of our attention. a brief conversation with donald trump. is jen now it's time to hear from the nominee himself. here again senior contributor ted koppel. >> nobody in recent memory has a more highly developed sense of public confidence than freshly minted republican nominee for president. as i sat down with donald trump late last week, i couldn't help but wonder. met me ask s you a question. back on june 16, when donald trump was thinking, you know something? i might win a primary or two. i might win a caucus or two. but, you know, the worst thing that's going to happen to the brand is going to be improved. i'll be better known. i'll be more famous than i am today. business is going to be -- you never thought you'd be sitting here on this day as the nominee of the republican party. >> it's such a great question and such an interesting question. i think about it myself. i think i must have, ted, because i do like to win. and i believe that if i didn't think i was going to win i wouldn't have done it m. where deep down in the mind i must have said, i'm going to win. >> the afternoon of his acceptance speech trump did a walk through and a mic check. >> i love the media: well, i was being sarcastic. the media has been very dishonest but we put up with it. let people know about it. it's a tremendous dishonesty in the medium but i let people know about it. >> it's been a mixed blessing for you. >> it's a mixed -- you wouldn't be where you are today -- >> i think you're right. >> and -- some are tremendously honest but you have to tremendous dishonest tee in the medium i've never seen anything like it. more so in the last number of months. with that being said, you have the power through it. and i do that. and it seems to be working out pretty well. but i do like to expose it. >> when you talk about exposing the media, what the media is there to do, what we are supposed to do is keep you honest. >> yeah. >> you've had your share of misstatements over the past few months. >> well, i think that -- is without the media, who would know? >> i think i'm an honest person. i feel i'm an honest person. i don't mind being criticized at all by the media but i do want them to be straight about it. >> trump seems to deal with unpleasant reality by ignoring or denying it. is. >> the ex presidents, the ones who ran for president. are pretty much against you. >> i don't think so. >> now you have to -- i don't think so. >> the bushes, the mccains -- let me explain something. people like me got the most votes almost 1 million votes in the history of the republican party. >> that's republican. now -- >> the polls are showing -- you have to convince -- but i'm way up. how do you convince the doubters? how do you convince doubters? lot of people saying, i can't believe that donald j. trump is the nominee. >> my whole life though -- i can't believe it. >> you've covered me for a long time. my whole life has been winning. i mean, i've won. whether i did "the apprentice" went on television -- >> you can't compare -- you can't compare anything you've done before -- >> tremendous stuck says in business. i do shows, a big success. i write books, they're very success. >> there's nothing like -- running for president of the united states. >> i agree. there's nothing like it -- >> how do you convince those doubters? how do you convince the folks that you're going to have to get those people in the middle? >> i love on november 8th, i think that's the way you convince them to be honest with you. >> do you haven't convinced them -- >> that's the only thing -- i'm up in many of the polls -- what you talked at one point, i heard you say several times, i can be so presidential. >> it's true. >> haven't seen it yet. >> i think you have. >> still see that flare of temper i still see that donald trump who likes to jab people in the ribs when he feels he has to. are we going to see more of that. you're going after hillary there's no question. >> she's a competitor. just like -- when i'm running the nation -- >> sit going to get nasty? >> with hillary? she's taken very nasty ads. it's not like me. he spent $102 million on negative ads. you're going after hillary? she spent $102 million on negative ads. i haven't literally bought an ad. i will. >> what is going to be different about the trump campaign? >> all i can do talk about policy which i'm very good at. all i can do is talk about the things we're going to do for our country. rebuild our depleted military, borders, trade, obamacare is a disaster, it's a total disaster. our health care plan is a total disaster. >> how important are the debates going to be? >> very important. i always think they are less important than people think. the other debates, every poll had she winning every single debate. every single poll had me winning every single debate. >> you know what -- i mean, look forward. >> you're not a debater? >> i surprise add lot of people. but i enjoyed the debate. my biggest question when i asked asked, what is going to happen? i never debated professionally before. i debate, my whole life is a debate in a way. i went on against people all they do is debate. they're politicians, and i actually loved debating. i enjoyed it. >> one last question. i have this image of you sitting there in your jammies at night doing your texting and your tweeting and your facebook. give me a visual image of what does donald trump text and tweet and all the rest of it? >> there will be very little of that if i win. it's a little bit different. right now i'm very nasty contest with a person who is a very nasty person, who, by the way, tweets and texts and spends tremendous -- >> it you tweeting -- oftentimes. it's me. oftentimes it's me. i get out a message. between facebook and twitter i have over 20 million people. that is a big audience. it's also you and the media and -- >> it allows you to -- allows me to get across a point very quickly in seconds. there was never anything like that. i have such a big base. it's such a big -- 20 million people, it's a tremendous -- more than that. going to be much more. i think of gaining probably 100,000 people every few days. and that gives me a big, big base in terms of a campaign. in terms much presidency, i don't think i'd use it very much at all. >> all right. you've been kind to do this. i know you've got couple of things on your agenda. >> thank you very much. >> pauley: ahead, something new. under the sun. it starts to relieve migraine pain in just 30 minutes. and it works on sensitivity to light, sound, even nausea, all of it. it works fast, and lasts for hours. excedrin specializes in treating migraines. which is why moments lost to migraines are moments gained with excedrin. #1 neurologist recommended. 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or two. but it's only one flight away from completing its journey. >> we are so different. he's an engineer i'm a medical doctor. >> these are the two swiss explorers who took turns in the pilot's seat. andre and bertrand piccard the visionary. >> you have no idea what is going to happen. and you try to use the doubts and question marks to stimulate your creativity. if it's easy everybody else would have done it. >> it's definitely not easy. a solar plane lives in a tiny mathematical sweet spot, limited by weight, solar panel area and batteries. the wingspan is bigger than a 747. but the plane weighs only about as much as a car and holds only one person. >> it was a designed to be very light. >> it's taken this plane about a year and five months to circle the earth. that's because it needs ideal weather and because it's not an especially fast plane. >> 55 miles an hour. only as fast as a car? the goal is not now fast you go to the destination it's how you get to the destination. i check the plane, everything works. >> it's no surprise that find bertrand driving this project he comes from a long line of famous adventurers. so famous the create i can of star trek named jean-luc picard after one of his relatives. >> after the twin brother of my grandfather. >> been region that will take the professor up. >> in 1931 his grandfather, auguste piccard was the first man to reach the earth's stratosphere in a balloon. >> it's a brave thing this little man is doing. risking his life for the benefit of science. >> he climbs down a tube through the gasoline float then squeezes -- >> is father, was the first man to reach the deepest point of the ocean in the mariana trench. the solar plane isn't even his first record breaking journey. he was also the first man ever to pilot a balloon nonstop around the world in 1999. >> it seems like, for the balloon, it was pure adventure, exploration, pioneering. seems like with solar impulse there's a message as well. this is more than just a opportunity, right? >> it's not a stunt. all the challenges that always engineering team have with this plane you see that it's exactly the challenges that our world has to be cleaner and more energy efficient and to solve all the problems of solution. >> the flight from new york to spain took three days. if you're going to spend that much time cooped up in a cockpit you have to figure out how to sleep. >> you put the the -- the alarm clock for 20 minutes. >> and how to exercise. i tried that on delta once they didn't like it. and how to do everything else. >> you see here you have the bag for the bathroom. >> you are basically sitting on a toilet for five days? >> you're sitting on a toilet. you can see hit way. >> it took their corporate sponsors over a decade to get the solar impulse off the ground. tell me about your relationship. do you fight? >> sometimes we fight. but not very often. but we disagree which is the source of our creativity. >> i think we understand that we 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