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KYW 60 Minutes June 8, 2014

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And as we first reported last fall, the consequence is a society thats neglected millions of seriously ill people hidden in plain sight on the streets of our cities, or locked away in prisons or jails. There is something eerily similar about the shooters, as if they were variations of the same person all young males, often with the same glazed expression, loners who exhibited bizarre behavior and withdrew into their own troubled world. Theyre often portrayed as villains. But dr. E. Fuller torrey says their deeds have much more to do with sickness and health than good and evil. E. Fuller torrey every person ive taken care of, and ive taken care of several hundred of these people, had a very good reason for doing what looked to be crazy behavior. But in their mind, it wasnt crazy behavior. It was in response to something that was very logical, that their voices were telling them; or that their delusions were telling them. Kroft dr. Torrey is one of the most famous psychiatrists in the country, an expert on severe Mental Illness, and a staunch critic of the way the country deals with it. How much of these terrible incidents that weve had, these Mass Shootings, is traceable to deficiencies in the Mental Healthcare system . Torrey well, theyre directly related. About half of these mass killings are being done by people with severe Mental Illness, mostly schizophrenia. And if they were being treated, they wouldve been preventable. Kroft for example, before killing 12 people at the Washington Navy yard last september, the gunman, aaron alexis, told police that he was hearing voices and being bombarded by strangers with a microwave machine. If he had been transported to a psych ward, the shootings might never have happened. In 2007, Virginia Tech student seunghui cho was behaving so irrationally that a Court Ordered him to seek Mental Health care. The order was never carried out. Cho killed himself and 32 others. And before james holmes dressed up as the joker and shot 70 people in a movie theater, Campus Police at the university of colorado had been warned that he was potentially violent. Holmes had been a brilliant graduate student there studying the inner workings of the brain, until something suddenly went wrong with his. Dr. Jeffrey lieberman, who is president of the American Psychiatric association, says its not that unusual. Jeffrey lieberman you can be the most popular student, you can be the valedictorian of your class. And if you develop schizophrenia, it will change the functioning of your brain and change the nature of your behavior. Kroft you could be completely normal at age 20, perhaps a good student or a gifted student and a solid citizen, and at 21 or 22 be psychotic . Lieberman absolutely. Kroft dr. Lieberman, who runs the Psychiatry Department at columbia universitys medical school, says that schizophrenia has a genetic component and tends to run in families, affecting the way the circuits in the brain develop. You can see the structural abnormalities in a brain scan. Lieberman and you see people, a young adult, with a normal brain, same age with, who has schizophrenia, and you see that that degenerative process has already begun. Kroft this is really a disease of the brain. Not a disease of the mind . Lieberman absolutely. Kroft it lies dormant during childhood and usually emerges in late adolescence and early adulthood, affecting perception and judgment. People see things that arent there and hear voices that arent real. Whats the nature of these voices and what do they say . Lieberman usually its multiple voices, talking about them in the third person, as if theyre not there. They may be saying, youre a horrible person. Everybody hates you. The only way that you can justify yourself is to lash out at them. Kroft how strong are the voices . Lieberman when theyre at their worst, the person cant distinguish the voices from their illness and they think the voices are part of them, and if they tell them what to do, theyll follow it. Jacob bowman i hear a voice. Its a mans voice and its really, really deep. Its a really deep and scary mans voice. Kroft schizophrenia is more common than you might think. Several million americans have it. 17yearold jacob bowman has been struggling with it for a couple of years. Bowman this is basically me on a bad day, i guess. Because i cant think straight. My thoughts are racing really, really fast. Kroft hes dropped out of high school, lives at home under the watchful eyes of his parents, and rarely goes out because he thinks people are trying to kill him. He spends much of his time on social media we found him on youtube where he shares his world with other young people who have the same symptoms. He wants them to know that theyre not alone and that the voices and hallucinations are not real. Bowman basically, all my voices i have are just thought, just voices telling me to harm myself or harm other people or kill people. And thats why i think i need to get on medication because i dont want to hurt anyone. And because i know schizophrenics arent violent. Kroft and hes mostly right. The vast majority of people with schizophrenia never show any signs of violence. Mike robertson was 19 years old and away at college when he was diagnosed three years ago. Mike robertson i felt like there was people around me, like, bad people or nice people. Kroft even when there was nobody there. Robertson yeah. And thats what really, thats what really got to me. Linda doran he told me over the phone, i feel like im going insane. I swear there is a bug in my head and i just want to tear at my eyes and my skin and my scalp to get it out of there so i dont have to hear it anymore. Very scary. Kroft michaels mother, linda doran, brought him back to california and got him into treatment, which consists of regular therapy sessions and daily doses of heavyduty anti psychotic drugs that stabilize him and help control the symptoms. Robertson clozapine. Its an antipsychotic. Haloperidol. Cogentin or benztropine. Fluvoxatine or prozac, lorazepam for anxiety. Kroft they often leave him listless or groggy, which is one of the reasons people with severe Mental Illness often stop taking them. A lot of people with your illness say the drugs make them feel worse. They just hate it. Robertson yeah. I can see that with the side effects. But its better than having schizophrenic symptoms. Kroft what worries you the most . Doran the future and the future without myself being here. Because i am mikes caregiver. I am his advocate. And so if i am not here, who will be . Kroft it is a serious concern and a sobering thought, because its estimated that half of the seven Million People in the country with schizophrenia and other forms of severe Mental Illness are not being treated at all. Duanne luckow this is day ten now of my fast. So im feeling really, really good. Kroft Duanne Luckow is one of them. He has spent the past three years on and off the street and in and out of jails and Mental Institutions, but he doesnt acknowledge that there is anything wrong with him and has refused treatment. Hes been recording the events in his life to prove that he is sane and that the rest of the world is out to get him. Do you have a gun at home . Luckow do i have a gun at my home . Yes, i have a gun at my home. Okay. So its a true statement. Kroft theres a confrontation with police at his parents home, and this full blown psychotic episode on the top of Multnomah Falls in oregon, in which he threatens to go over the side. Luckow i come from the planet of pluto im here to protect this planet im here to bring justice about there is no justice. This planet is entirely corrupt the fbi wanted to screw around with me they didnt want to give me my atm cards Sandra Luckow it really feels as though hes on the edge. Its pretty scary. Kroft duanne gave the footage to his sister, Sandra Luckow, a documentary filmmaker who teaches in new york. Duanne luckow may the truth be known kroft she spent years trying to help him. Sandra luckow on a certain level, this would make him crazy to think that the very thing that he thinks is going to exonerate him shows how crazy he is. Kroft did you have trouble getting him treatment . Sandra luckow laughs yes. Yes, a tremendous amount of trouble getting him treatment. Kroft she is no longer sure her brother can be helped, and has kept her distance ever since he sent her a threatening email. Sandra luckow he said that someone was going to come to my apartment with an ar15 hollow point bullet and spatter my brains all over my apartment. Kroft has he ever been violent . Sandra luckow not that i know. Kroft but you think its possible . Sandra luckow sure. screams kroft 50 years ago, someone like Duanne Luckow would have ended up in a place like this, involuntarily committed to one of the big staterun hospitals that were used to warehouse the seriously mentally ill. Documentaries like Frederick Wisemans titicut follies helped expose the dehumanizing conditions and led to reforms. One by one, the big asylums were shut down, and over time, a halfmillion inmates were released into communities to fend for themselves. They were supposed to be housed in residential treatment centers, medicated, and supervised by case workers at walkin clinics. But the programs were never adequately funded. Torrey what we did is, we emptied out the hospitals. And on any given day now in the United States, half of the people with schizophrenia and other severe Mental Illnesses are not being treated. Kroft how difficult is it to get somebody admitted who does not want to be admitted . Torrey almost impossible in most states. The laws will read, you have to be a danger to yourself or others, in some states. And judges may interpret this very, very strictly. You know, we kiddingly say, you have to be either trying to kill your psychiatrist, or trying to kill yourself in front of your psychiatrist, to be able to get hospitalized. Kroft if these people arent receiving medical attention, where are they ending up . Torrey many of them end up homeless. Many of them end up in jails and prisons now. So this is a huge problem. Our jails and prisons are our main place now where you find mentally ill people. Kroft in fact, by some measures, the largest Mental Institution in the United States is the Cook County Jail in chicago. It houses the largest number of mentally ill people in the country. Tom dart this is a population that people dont care about and so as a result of that, there are not the resources to care for them. Kroft Cook County Sheriff tom dart is in charge of the jail and he is not very happy about the situation. Dart ive got probably 2,500, 2,800 people with Mental Illness in my jail today. And you look at their backgrounds, theyve been in here 50, 60, 100, we have some people whove been in here 400 times. Kroft what kind of offenses . Dart oh my god, retail theft is a norm. And usually its because theyre stealing something either to feed themselves or, frankly, theyre stealing something because they just wanted it that second. Loads of cases of criminal trespass to land. Whats that . Theyre breaking in some place to sleep. Kroft youre saying the prisons and the jails are the new asylums . Dart absolutely. There is no person that could argue otherwise that the jails and prisons are the new insane asylums. Thats what we are. What the. . Wait dont spray me kroft sheriff dart has told guards and employees to videotape incidents so that he can show people what actually goes on here. Dart and the videos weve shown people are to show them what happens when we take people who are mentally ill and we cram them into the criminal Justice System where theyre not supposed to be. And the irony so deep that you have a society that finds it wrong to have people warehoused in a state Mental Institution, but those very same people were okay if we warehouse them in a jail. Its just, youve got to be kidding me. Elli montgomery were you ever diagnosed with depression or bipolar disorder . Yeah, a long time ago. Kroft every day, elli montgomery, one of five social workers here, goes over the list of new inmates with Mental Illness. Montgomery we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. 15 with a severe Mental Illness. Kroft just this morning . Montgomery yeah, just this morning. Severely mentally ill. Not like a little bit of depression. Kroft most of them will be here for several days to several months, then released back onto the street with a packet of pills and no plan. Sheriff dart says its become a huge Public Safety issue. Theres been an epidemic of Mass Shootings. A lot of them by people with serious Mental Health problems. Do you think theres a connection . Dart yes, i do think there are connections here because people. Some are getting treated. Other ones arent getting treated. People are falling through the cracks all the time. And so to think that that wont then boil up at some point and end up in a tragedy, thats just naive. Thats just naive. Torrey we have a grand experiment what happens when you dont treat people. But then youre gonna have to accept 10 of homicides being killed by untreated, mentally ill people. Youre gonna have to accept tucson and aurora. Youre gonna have to accept cho at Virginia Tech. These are the consequences, when we allow people who need to be treated to go untreated. And if you are willing to do that, then thats fine. But im not willing to do that. Cbs money watch update spon

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