Color played a role in the beginnings of jazz says 87 year old Creole clarinet and sax player Charlie Gabriel we've all been grieving and down here the northeast this news that's why it's the gumball state. Everybody all in different cultures if in the long run. Charlie Gabriel featured player in the Preservation Hall Jazz Band looks back with us into the Creole spirit of jazz we'll be joined this hour with music from New Orleans creels Jelly Roll Morton Sidney Beacham Allen Toussaint and Fats Domino as well as people drawn to their music like Tom Waits and Del McCoury. New Orleans Creole Music 1st with Deacon John letting the good times roll on American roots. To. Sell books. a 9 years of age he'd sold over 75000000 records his 1st language was French Creole one prominent early Creole musician was cornet player Buddy Bolden leading the 2nd line at the beginning of the last century others picked up the torture. Jazz continued to grow out of spasm bands street parades and cotillions early jazz great King Oliver formed his Creole jazz band including protege Louis Armstrong King Oliver although African-American spoke Creole pianist and bandleader Jelly Roll Morton described his Creole French ancestry and the origins of Jess in 1938 to Alan Lomax. As I got on the. Road to Louisiana. And all my came directly from. That or yours I mean. We always had some kind of a musical Can you imagine the house. We had lots of and everybody always played of that place yet. They always had it my mind that a musician was a plant but they kept sins of the French Opera House. Which they always happen. Only I thought it was a great musician in the country and I myself was inspired by going to French opera house ones. That I have. No doubt one of them. And incidentally. Of course you may notice this managed tension it. Has so much to do with the typical jazz. Can I manage a way to put the sensor. And. Never be able to get the right I'm a college. Degree. That. This is a child a gay broom jazz musician from the wall and you know you listen to some of the finest music in the universe. Old. Old. Old. Bowl. Dear old Southland band leader noble Sissel singing and joined in 1037 by the blues even brought a clarinet of Sidney Bush a bush I was born in New Orleans Creole 7th Ward to a shoemaker who encouraged all 4 sons to play music today his statue stands in Congo Square before that Ferdinand Jelly Roll Morton in words and music with his band the red hot peppers in Chicago in 1926 the tune Dr Jazz Jelly Roll claimed he invented jazz playing piano in Storyville bordellos and later composing in arranging the music Morton's 938 oral history with Alan Lomax is the 1st great jazz biography Coming up our interview with Charlie Gabriel But 1st a break and we're back with some jazz and r. And d. Takes on selling rice cakes and frog legs when American roots returns. I'm Nick Spencer our program this hour devoted to Creole Music and Musicians many New Orleans jazz musicians left for Chicago in New York City in the 1920 s. And thirty's as the cosmopolitan Jazz Age went global by the late 1940 s. New Orleans traditional jazz have been supplanted up north by swinging bebop but Vangelis and producer Danny Barker put together some New York sessions to play early Creel jazz with Albert Nicholas on clarinet and vocals James Johnson piano and pops Foster on bass it's a vendor song about selling hot rice cakes Bella collage an especially good deal and. She simply will face all. These employees don't mind sharing cities see the. Lazy. Days old. And. Now. We mad them. All mad they. Got. To. Go. We met. Told that. We had damn. 2 all mad. To. Bail. Out now. 2 they. Can ship. A condo. I does the oil price and you're listening to American. And is our own duty not our. Well. Play. We were. Going to say. You know. We're not. Going away. And it. Is not that's and. I would hope. That doesn't. Necessarily mean. That this is the way. They are going to. Be you know. They. Want. You. Gone. A. Little. Bit. You're going. Goldfield. Going to find out. What. They. Can do you know. Here's. A little bit of de sac you know. That. I'm going to put in the cold cold dead man's. Mess. That made me. Say the pro. Soccer you know. My wife. Like you they don't like the old you know. Among the brave brave. New World. That. Charlie Gabriel on sax with the Preservation Hall Jazz Band on a Mardi Gras Indian song turned r. And b. Chocobo feel now hey before that the New Orleans RB hero Lloyd Brice 1953 outselling frog legs. Horn player Charlie Gabriel's roots are in New Orleans traditional jazz but he made a name for himself playing with Lionel Hampton in a recent Franklin. You . Think. Charlie learned how to play saxophone and clarinet from his father he grew up in the Crescent City playing in local bands at age 11 as a teen his family moved to Detroit where he lived for almost 60 years before returning home to New Orleans to play with the Preservation Hall Jazz Band and I went to France for a greeter Franklin back in 1000 thinks the night and I got out the bandstand I guy walked the Andes that could be see you from your wall and I say not one not from the last man I think I'm from Detroit and I wouldn't deny no longer now but I felt I have been in Detroit since 48 and yes 1990 I'm a reader Franklin big band week and it got very angry and shook his head at mean you think you from the wall and because it's in your music. I didn't want you to get Nantucket. My Greek landfall tonight Massey's Capriati and he hail from singer Domingo to move her to new Rawlings now 85060 is a musician Yes right and I grieve for what the bass from that they were pretty awful. And eighty's and then my grandfather on a plane trying to become National Jazz grandpa coming to you know my dad with the drummer and my mum to play saxophone my sister Shawn plays piano and she played saxophone and she was playing before while. And beyond that my gate which then my brother Martin played piano and he pitched trumpet and I brought all can play trumpet learn to play trombone period piano Joe played bass and I played saxophone and clarinet. Every what point do you go out and play in public I thought playing music back in 1400 tree to see it had been about what 1111 years ago 11 of those in a while were gone on I have over 10 and a lot of do you live with and served during that time so on and people never left thank you but only Liz issue you had families and thank and I'm a Lebanese all so they were called my dad saying they got a job for you my dad said no no no I'm I'm working but you take to kid that's how I thought the playing so early and know the guy took good care of me so when you 1st go out there this is Eureka jazz band Rick a jazz band that's a phrase Jad playing bridge was it in a club for oh you played a funeral started I for one job was a feeling of what is a jazz funeral looked like from the eyes of an 11 year old hearing in Rome and you get for me you around the Cape and vine it was you that strength of out there and beat Never Again not enough temple while we have to bite and now present and then release the body from our present and leave the cemetery he picks up the 2 under him of temple to make the people feel good and then people in your St John unit are the 2nd night and they go. We hit old ingredient down here to ne This means that we hit all to diffuse nationalities for the new Long was one of the largest sea post in the country and I owned a slave there but it came from pneumonia that's why it's to see if the gumball stayed in the drum but every bad all of them different cultures if there's a new wall and now as I mentioned before that recalled American music. What is it that led your family and you to leave you know when you were 14 and go to Detroit you know on my mind my younger brothers and sister who had just saddled again my mother about as I shall and one can cut to California for a better life a lot of the lot of the world's people went there and they were looking for a better life style can get out of the surrogate now that the Sergey I get time well might buy them then young in a earner trying to just Sajid take the long route you know go to church Chicago and audit a young people trying to train 24 years old but when you got to Detroit or broke down. So he had her at the go to work the fixed automobile and no longer gone on to get about $900.00 father won so what did it help Oregon in a factory could they would edit out a tank the new pinball the defense network and had my mother come to Detroit with my father and told my mother say y'all can go to trouble you can take Chelsea that you can stay here can I'm teaching you what was he teaching you to shoot you can He would teach you teach me how many you teaching me theory I get so angry with him too but it can turn dad to make a good musician all over to be bringing me back to New Rock. And say boy you know what behind the ear but I realized what he meant by that the musician in your own very very special recession. Did it if they was so much she only. I mean you start with traditional jazz you work your way through bebop through big band soul if you work your way around the world with all kinds of music you know I mean you're showing in stuff from your entire life here is things that I have learned over a period of time playing with different position a piece I'm hearing a piece from am but man I get the play my solo I play what I have as spirits and life is like. Oh it is about a paint brush in his hand which a cambered and something new going south in the pink in a pitcher. Live How was it being a singer versus you know playing the instrument you know you seem to smile to love your way oh you're going to burn it and you know I got that same one time. Allison . Jeremy. Clown Wilson and yes a member to sing a song I say man on thing if they were him or not some song or thing I say Yeah I'll sit right down and write myself from that so he Ok to keep it all for I want to sit right down and write myself write a letter. And maybe burden to you Piers care for you so after I got your interview no. I told my friend no we are you I say I sung a song a song on your record member to think over the sea channel used to sing more I say why can't you sing so funny it is very complicated Yeah it's a compliment only a brother could give you something that's so far. And this is really serious that's not. My series. She. She is all I. Have is a good low. So. It is. My living room is. My things to go right to my memories. So when you when you come back and I just read 2009 is it to play at Preservation Hall of. Jefferson to come back to play with that I'm not sure but I had already had me in my mind I'm going to come back anyway she's sure Iowa has said I want to go back home. And I close my eyes I'm going go back home and go on my own terms you know and I'm so thankful God He gave me that. Yes and that be at home and not a national one. And never did leave you alone let me. Come with me to the New London. What is it you will. Call in your dream come true and new mom. You're 84 years old age of 5. So you look great has music helped you stay in great shape I mean you're playing Preservation Hall how many nights a week of an insect's do you work at you're working hard it's the people of himself that energize you if you really. Love one another and you share Now that is holding the note our conversation with the world's Korea lock to do nary an clarinet and sax player Charlie Gabriel of the Preservation Hall Jazz Band if you think Charlie Gabriel is a funny singer check out Tom Waits doing some New Orleans jazz repertoire when American roots returns I'm Jim does your host of strange groove on k.c. t 4 Corners Public Radio inviting you to join me every Saturday night at 8 for an hour progressive rock jam electronica alternative and more a musical melting prompted late penalize and ultimately satisfied that strange groove on Saturday nights at 8 you never know what will bubble up. This is American roots in the early 1950 s. New Orleans banjo and guitar player Danny Barker recorded a jazz jive version of a Mardi Gras Indian song in 2010 it was recorded by Tom Waits who once played in incarcerated New Orleans distract in the film down by law. Waits joined the Preservation Hall Jazz Band to sing to D.-Ma was a big fine thing. Good came. Back. To. A. Oh. This is America. Goldstein called them up to. Say. Well tell me. Where were you last night. Well you. See. Lolo. Is a. Clown to me baby. Everything. To lose your Cipolla man every day is not the same song and played by Carol Fran from the cd our New Orleans 2005 a post Katrina fundraiser that helped build houses in Musicians Village and still does care a friend was longish on Tuesday forming from Bourbon Street to Tijuana before that lead Dorsey his big 961 hit yeah yeah primal funky r. And b. With Creole references to the ya ya of every day life and the lala of his love life it's long been said that New Orleans Creoles are open to a variety of cultures in a moment we'll hear our widely traveled guest Charlie Gabriel play at Preservation Hall with bluegrass ambassador Del McCoury But I asked Charlie if he'd ever heard western swing and Melvin video Michigan and I had no job. And I was walking down this to go pretty head is this band playing guitar and violin and country and Russian van and that people in there mag that and your prey's scared to go in and provide you know how about at the outset that So the guy like I would say if I am a hard man I think come on in so why can't. You say you want to follow us yeah they had me so I had to go every fragging said and play with them better play rhythm Fred lead more class people try to make a difference and knew that it's all in the same different people as fresh as different. The Preservation Hall Jazz Band backing bluegrass here Del McCoury singing one more before I die we'll go from New Orleans Creoles to Texas Cal girls and boys when American roots returns our program is underwritten by a major grant from the National Endowment for the Humanities and the National Endowment for the Arts I'm Nick Spitzer and this is American routes from p.r. X. Public Radio Exchange. For Casey t. Public radio as provided by done deal resale store announcing a large supply of gently used holiday baking and cooking housewares done deal keeping the community green but lightly used everything they're located at 31st Street and Main Avenue in Durango they're also on Facebook. This is so the new travel radio and 4 Corners Public Radio. Durango. Farmington. Florida's to and. The springs we also heard in Cortez make his own and. I'll be playing from each town solar powered stage music conversation community involvement 100 percent mission free this week in the town. 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This is American roots produced in New Orleans but crossing the border and going deep in the heart of Texas to Dallas will meet up with the fiddling family the way the sisters all the way back in Texas south and Ling is very much into size to be hardcore I teacher was like what you're going to hide Still you gotta drink black coffee you got to be able to eat jalapeno stright you know Grace quickly I would love to continue the tradition that I believe is what Lester Sweeney is and that is bringing in new styles his that's what Bob Wills and Spade Cooley and Milton Brown and those guys were doing we're talk to all 3 clearly sisters about family life growing up and playing Western Swing as a fiddle trio. Also music bizarre from the Quavers noted heroes and the Andrews Sisters Willie Nelson Taj Mahal and more from milk cow blues to the old cow here on American. Starting with Marian priced to end Hicks.