With her father, when they were presented with campbell and his shotgun. Hey, sweetheart, who are you . We are trying to go on a horseback ride. Hey, i have to go back to iraq tomorrow, he refused to put the shotgun down. He started waiving, this is my property and this is my property, and you scant be on my property. The clearest proof that joe campbell intended and planned to kill tim newman, his own words, like what he said to t county attorney who declined to prosecute timms for cutting locks, this was days before the shooting. He told me if i wasnt going to take care of mr. Neumann, he would. And this one. He did refer to tim leaving the top of the mountain in a body bag. Joes words to a contractor, two days before the shooting. He cleared his jacket back from his pistol and touched his newman, im going to push him down, im going to put him down, lemonde the. He said he was going to kill him, and then he killed him. It was murder. The rule in montana is as clear as day, you cant you can defend your castle if threatened, but absent a threat, murder is what it is. What could joe campbell possibly say about that . As it turned out, lots. Coming up i was trying to stay alive. Thats all i want to do. Its him or me, and i shot him. I did. Dramatic testimony from the accused. But would a jury believe him . So all these people came into court, took an oath and have lied in front of this jury, is that correct . Objection. Tinues. And your joints really love them too . Introducing megared advanced 4in1. Just one softgel delivers the omega3 power of two regular fish oil pills. So give your body mega support with megared advanced 4in1. . When youve got. . . Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea . . Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea . s pepto bismol ah. . Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea . Ziploc presents cafeteria chaos. School lunch can be difficult. 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He offered his own theory, tim could have been jumping or falling backwards when the first bullet hit his hand and chest and the second shot hit him in the back. Duelling experts maybe cancel each other. If joe campbell was walking out of the courtroom a free man, the defense had to hope the jury perceived him and her in a favorable way. Joe campbell is my husband. How long have you two been married . 23 years. The only other survivor of the confrontation on the hill. So far you heard joe campbell was a bully. Isnt any right of way through here. He was a threatening, mean, dangerous old man, unafraid and tim newman driving a pickup that confronted them as they walked to their horse pasture. He said joe and tani, finally found you. Joe just said tim, weve given you notice youre not welcome at our place, please dont harass us. Were you afraid of him when you were next to the road . I was startled, joe just said lets go, and he just hollered out his window c just get it over with right now. And then he did drive off. Thats why she said she and joe were afraid of tim. And why on october 18th as she and joe walked toward home they were alarmed to see tim coming up behind them. What were the things that made you believe he was going to physically harm you . He was just wanting to cut up the hill . Why would he do that . We were watching him. He was on his atv and he was off his atv and grabbing bolt cutters. He was unpredictable, highly agitated. What do you and joe decide to do next . Joe just kept saying you need to try to get out of here, get safe, go home, call the sheriff. I didnt want to leave joe. But she did leave, she says, and on the way to calling 911 heard gunshots, placed the call, rushed back, and i saw joe standing at the gate, he said he came at me with the gun and i didnt have a choice. And i saw mr. Newman lying on the ground. And in the sometimes tense cross examination, prosecutors point out not so gently that elements of her story changed also from previous interviews. Campbells. Call joe campbell to the stand. So sometimes frightened grandfather of seven or neighborhood bully that brandished his weapon at neighbors and strangers. The defense sat out changing perceptions. The neighbors, the hunters. Did you threaten them with a shotgun, anything of that nature . No. They were trespassing, i asked them to leave. The army colonel and her father. Ever point a shotgun at us . No, sir. No getting around the fact he told the deputy da he was going to take care of tim newman himself. Could be more than one way to perceive that, could there . Frustrated. I was really frustrated. Legal action, he was just a peaceful, frustrated man and was terrified when tim chased them up the hill in a rage that day in october, 2013. Man had murder in his eyes, said joe. Its hard to stand up here and say in front of everybody, but i was trying to stay alive. Thats all i wanted to do. Thinking about tani, my kids, my grandkids. It was him or me, and i shot him. I did. Had joe campbell succeeded in changing the jurys perception . Before mr. Campbell could leave the witness stand, the prosecutor got a chance to cross examine him and again present the bully of the mountain, the neighbors said they knew too lamont moltre says approximately two to three days before you shot and killed mr. Neumann, you told him, im going to put him down. Did you say that to mr. Moltre . I did not. So all these people came into court, took an oath and lied in front of the jury, is that right . Objection, your honor. Ultimately the prosecutor said joe campbell could have avoided a cont wanted it. All you have to do to save your wife, save yourself, is to turn downhill and walk, jog, run down the hill. I looked at the options, it is a hell of a lot harder on the hill side when somebody is threatening you than to be here in the courtroom twoandahalf years later. If you were a juror, what mountain . Was it murder or self defense . Coming up. Waiting for the jury. Theres so much anxiousness. Hoping for justice. Who is this guy can steal on the 3rd of march, 2016, in the Old Supreme Court chamber of montanas state capital building, the question went to the jury. Did joe campbell have a right to shoot tim newman . Was it self defense . Or was it coldblooded murder. Neighbors dan and sue della willed their thoughts into the jury room. I believe he murdered him. Murder, absolutely. They knew full well since montana passed a new law legalizing certain kinds of self defense, it was hard to know what a jury might decide. Find him not guilty, there will be for sale signs for everywhere up there. Nervous hours around the old courtroom which turned into a whole day and then a second. Theres so much anxiousness come back. And then just after noon, day two, the jury sent the judge a note. Please be seated. Everybody was summoned to the courtroom. I am told that you folks are hopelessly deadlocked and that even if given more time you couldnt reasonably expect to reach a decision. Is that your understanding of events . Yes, your honor. I am going to declare a a mistrial, three weeks of testimony for naught. The state may or may not bring the case again. Thank you. I couldnt believe it. It was a complete shock for the family that he could just leave that courtroom, not have a guilty or not guilty and like nothing happened. Like nothing happened. What was the state to do . Well, this case said the prosecutors, the decisiowa obvious. They offered joe campbell a plea deal and scheduled a retrial because. It is a dangerous situation and im concerned it will be repeated and somebody else will be killed. Joe campbell remained out on bail with the proviso he remain ten miles from his property on the mountain. Elected not to face a second trial. Instead he walked into a courtroom and waived his claim that the shooting was legal. How do you plead to the charge of negligent homicide . No contest, your honor. A plea of no contest, meaning campbell neither admitted nor denied the charge that he committed negligent homicide. Reduced charge from the original allegation of intentional homicide, montanas parlance for firth degree murder. Interest of myself and my family. In a case like this, said prosecutors, you take what you can get. Focusing on community protection. And we think its probably the best agreement we could reach and have a guaranteed resolution of this case. Before the judge pronounced sentence, tim newmans wife jackie went to the podium. Just because you are callous and have no remorse, i want you have affected our lives in a horrendous way. Tims daughter, christie, also sent a statement, unable to be present because she just had a baby, a granddaughter tim never got to see. My dad died a hero. What will you die . It makes me very angry, yeah, very upset, very sad. Like who is this guy that can just steal such a beautiful soul from this world. Chance to explain or apologize. Is there anything you would like to say . No, your honor. Campbell also declined a chance to explain on dateline. His lawyer released a statement saying the plea agreement allowed mr. Campbell and his wife and family to go forward with certainty of freedom and removal of constant stress and anxiety, while still allowing him to maintain his innocence and continue to maintain he acted necessarily in self defense. The sentence was of course part of the deal with the state, 20 years. But not in any prison. All of it suspended sentence. No fines or restitution imposed. As neighbors listened, the judge told joe hell have to abide by some very important conditions. Hell never again be allowed to possess a firearm and 20 years, even if he manages to live that long, he cannot return to th mountain he once called home. He will never again set foot in his house, his forest, his trail, his precious property. Ironic, isnt it, you care so much about your property that you never get to see it again. Yeah. Yeah. It is very ironic. You know, before he owned all the big property, he recreated like all of us. Life was good. When he decided he needed to take control is when it all changed. Like a fable, isnt it . Yes. Aesop could have written it. There you go. And if tim neumann were on a cloud up there somewhere, for his daughter christie, hed be telling her she knows exactly what hed say. Im sorry, sorry, darling. Sorry for going up to that gate, im sorry i am not there to meet my granddaughter. Im sorry we cant go on another hike together. I love you, you know. Praise the lord for this country. Thats all for now. Im lester holt, thanks for accuse donald trump of Sexual Misconduct he grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me. Trump keeps denying the stories, all of them. The stories are total fiction. This morning my interview with vicepresident joe biden. What he said is a textbook definition of Sexual Assault. And with the republican nominee for pence. Now that trump says the shackles are off, how damaging has this episode been . The latest numbers from our brandnew nbc news wall street journal poll. The Great American divide. We go to one county thats all in for trump. Hillary has so much stuff against her. I dont see how anybody can vote for her. And another where everyone seems to be for clinton. I dont understand how people are voting for him. Joy reid, Chris Cillizza and Kristen Welker of nbc news. Welcome to sunday, its meet the press. From nbc news in washington, this is meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning. Every week we say it and every week its true. Theres never been a week like this in american president ial politics. Here we go again. Admittedly the number of women who came forward claiming donald trump had groped, propositions or sexually harassed them. As the Trump Campaign began to buckle, republicans feared that his troubles would metastasize and take out down ballot republicans threatening the partys hold on the senate and perhaps even the house. We have a new indication of just how dire things have become for trump. In our new poll out right now, Hillary Clinton leads donald if you limit it to likely voters, check this out, clintons lead grows to 48 37 before likely voter models would actually help trump, not in this case. But theres a Silver Lining for republicans in this poll. It may be in congress where the democratic lead has snapped back to two points. A week ago, it had opened up to seven. These numbers come after a head shaking week when trump was underon seemed to be at war with just about everyone. In the face of more accusations of Sexual Assault, trump is lashing out. Its a rigged election, because you have phony people coming up with phony allegations. Nine women have come forward. Jessica says she sat next to him on a plane in 1979. When he started putting his hand up my skirt and that was the 90s. The person on my right who unbeknowned to me was donald trump, put this hand up my skirt. A People Magazine writer was interviewing the trumps. She says, i turned around and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. A former contens apprentice. I pushed his chest, put space between us. I said, come on, man, get real. He repeated i had words back to me, get real. As he began thrusting his genitals. Report trump has denies them. Instead, abeinattacking. Some are doing it for probably a little fame. Even suggesting that they believe me, she would not be my first choice that i can tell you. He has blamed media, the clintons. He has blamed a mexican billionaire. The Trump Campaign has pushed back on all of the allegations, offering a british man who says it it was jessica who was being f flirtatious. Trump released a statement on summer write being, i never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. In fact, she continued to contact me for help, email mig office on april 14th of this year, asking that i visit her restaurant in california. All of these allegations led to a passionate speech by Michelle Obama who rarely weighed in to partisan politics this steeply. It has shaken me to my core in a way that i couldnt have predicted. Im thursday, i sat down with vicepresident joe biden at a union hall in las vegas where he was campaigning in an attempt to help Hillary Clinton lock down the state of nevada. I began by asking the vicepresident about those accusations of Sexual Assault against donald trump. Why shouldnt he get the benefit of the doubt . From these accusers. His own words. I dont have to even go to the cc said is a textbook definition of Sexual Assault. I mean, its a text book definition. The thing that is makes it so believable that he engaged in that kind of activity is not just that he said it but his sort of instinctive abuse of power. He acts in the private sector, in the penthouse. Im a billionaire. Im a star. And i can do what i want. Thats the most disturbing piece. My father used to say, the greatest abuse is abuse of power. Economic power, political power, physical power. And this is not a guy that should be representing the United States in any way. Why do you think voters yet . I dont know how deeply it has sunk into the consciousness. I dont know that we think that something gets said once, twice, ten times, a thousands times over a weekend and everyone absorbs it. Most people are trying to figure out how to put bread and butter on the table. So i dont know. I think its sunk in pretty around the country in a pretty substantial way so far. We have a culture that has given this a permission slip. This is a new level. And i was with my helping my granddaughter with a paper. Shes a bright young woman. I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed to even i have four granddaughters. I was embarrassed that this is even being discussed. A lesson for men. I heard a lot of people say as the father or the mother of two daughters or three daughters or what about the message to young men or young boys . I did this virtual town hall meeting with thousands of students. And i asked them to go to a website. What can we do to better protect them . You know what the overwhelming answer was . Get men involved. The vast majority of men dont i was a pretty good athlete in high school and college. I dont ever remember that kind of locker room talk. Never. You might have a guy say, look at that or make comments like that. But the idea that she lets me do anything because im a celebrity is just sick. Whats wrong is, we have to change the whole culture here. And that no man has a right to touch a woman, to raise a hand to a woman, to abuse a woman we have actually had cases i have a federal law passed. A judge asking a woman, well, you were in the bar. Were you wearing underwear, how short was your skirt . No man has a right to touch a woman. The last time this really impacted our politics was Clarence Thomas and anita hill did an interview. She expressed disappointment in you. She did. What was your reaction to that . My reaction was,