The renewed hostility all that and more is just ahead on Face the Nation. Good morning and welcome to Face the Nation tomorrow the House Judiciary Committee will hold another hearing as they write articles of impeachment against President Trump Democrats are hoping to move quickly with full House debate on the articles and a vote by the Christmas holiday we begin this morning with the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff he joins us from Burbank Good morning to you Chairman Good morning before we get to impeachment I want to ask you about this developing story out of Pensacola Florida where a member of the Saudi military gunned down 3 Americans out wounded 8 Is there an indication of motive was this terrorism we've gotten an initial briefing on it and it really is too early to say we grieve obviously for the families of those who were lost and we're going to press Saudi Arabia to do a full investigation on their end even as we do one on ours and I wish the president of states rather than trying to speak for the Saudi government were pressing the Saudi government for answers but we're going to make sure that we not only get to the full truth here but also that we review whatever protocols we have in place for the selection of people that participate in these military training programs both here and abroad so that this kind of insider attack never occurs again and we'll be talking about that more with a national security adviser had on the program but I want to switch to impeachment with you there are already drafts of impeachment articles the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee Jerry Nadler has indicated that you could see abuse of power obstruction among them. What are you looking for what should we expect these articles to be defined as well we have weighed in all the chairs with Chairman Adler and his staff as to what we think would be appropriate in a set of articles I can't go into those particular discussions but I can tell you as a former prosecutor it's always been you know my strategy in a charging decision that in a piece from the House is essentially a charging decision to charge those that there is the strongest and most overwhelming evidence and not try to charge everything even though you could charge other things so that's my guiding philosophy there is overwhelming evidence that the president sought to coerce Ukraine into interfering in our election essentially sought to cheat in our next election by getting a foreign government to weigh in that is a very serious business and the perils are national security it's a gross abuse of his office and the president also deeply sought to obstruct the investigation into that wrongdoing and I think that is the grab them end of the offense here where you're going what your committee will be presenting evidence tomorrow before the House Judiciary Committee will you include evidence from the report. Well our committee will present what we investigate in the intelligence. Set of allegations. But also the obstruction of Congress it won't be our committee the Intelligence Committee presentation that would go to other issues like the mother report that would be decision that Chairman not a right to make do you think that this should be broadened out beyond the issue of Ukraine Well again I'm not going to get to my internal discussions with my colleagues but I will say that I think we should focus on those issues that provide the greatest threat to the country and the president is engaged in a course of conduct that threatens the integrity of the next election threatens our national security by withholding military assistance to an ally at war to our detriment and conditioning other things like a desperately sought after White House. For election and that is an ongoing threat to the country one that simply can't wait but I know Republicans make the point that the able to ultimately release but I want to ask you in your personal opinion you have seen all of this Abbott's are you actually not going to vote to impeach the president is there any chance that you wouldn't vote to impeach the president. Well 1st of all Margaret they released it because they got caught because a whistleblower blew the whistle because Congress announced an investigation and only thereafter and almost immediately thereafter were they forced to release the 8 so that's not much of a defense getting caught but in terms of my own recommendations look I'm going to see what articles come out of the judiciary committee deliberations I'll make my views known at that time but I will say this this is precisely the kind of conduct the founders were most concerned about when they provided the remedy of impeachment that is that a president and states would abuse his power to seek foreign intervention or affairs and do so in a way that threatens the ordinary mechanism of removing a president and that is an election and you have all of those ingredients here and what's more you have a president who is continuing in the malicious conduct out on the White House lawn still saying he wants Ukraine to help in the next election with these sham investigations inviting other countries like China to do the same thing Rudy Giuliani even this week is in Ukraine furthering this plot and so this is an ongoing clear and present danger to the integrity of our elections and our own national security Well the president said yesterday that Rudy Giuliani is preparing a report that he's going to give to the attorney general and to Congress what is the plan for this is really Giuliani going to come in and testify under oath Well we have subpoena Rudy Giuliani for his records and he's refused to comply and refused to cooperate like so many other witnesses that have refused but you know if I fail talking about here. Look I have little idea what the president's talking about except that the president is only too happy to have his personal attorney continue to seek foreign interference in the next election this is not something that started or ended with Ukraine it began with the president invited Russia to intervene in the last election it continue with the president trying to course Ukraine to do it now and it is. We feel we have to move forward and we simply can't wait for an election in which the president is seeking already to prejudice by foreign intervention you know in the 300 page report that your committee put out it included some call logs including numbers related to Congressman newness and a journalist and there has been a lot of blowback on you having published this upon reflection should you have made that public. Absolutely and the blowback has only come from the far right but look every investigator seeks phone records to corroborate sometimes to contradict a witness's testimony and here we had testimony that the president charged really Giuliani with carrying out this plot that he told the ambassador vocal or Volcker and Perry and song led to talk to Rudy and in fact about Voeckler testified about talking to Rudy and so naturally we wanted phone records to show they have those conversations and indeed they did but it's very important to point out Margaret we did not subpoena Devon Nunez call records we did not subpoena any journalist call records and that is simply false information being pushed by the president's allies but the fact that Mr Nunez or Giuliani or others show up in this scheme doesn't make them irrelevant doesn't give them a pass All right Congressman thank you very much and I do want to explain to our viewers are having couple technical issues you might have noticed they're not going to happen with the news that but are c.b.s. News coverage of the House impeachment hearings will continue on this network tomorrow as well will be back in a moment tomorrow you should tune in to see Norah O'Donnell cover the hearings you just heard chairmanship describe Stay with us we'll bring in Congressman Mark Meadows. Introducing the Capital One Wal-Mart rewards card earned unlimited 5 percent back on everything you buy at Wal-Mart online it's the perfect card for all your families this holiday season like 5 percent back on the air fire Grandpa told you about when he fell asleep in his chair. Or 5 percent back on the laptop your sister had carolers sing to. The Capital One Wal-Mart rewards card earned unlimited rewards including 5 percent back at Wal-Mart on line what's in your wallet terms and exclusions apply capital one going to the holiday season and. Branding. John Deere that is not a mirage with neighbors admiring your shiny new ride it's your gear for the deer to fill you with pride so with additional offer so what you desire see your loan rates before they expire and now start up your engines and drive out of sight new John Deere equipment for all and to all night make it your year for the Fair see your John Deere dealer today to discover more amazing deals and attractive financing offers. And we're back with the former chairman of the concern of house freedom caucus North Carolina Republican Congressman Mark Meadows Good morning good morning here to be here a great set siting here christening it for us you just heard Chairman chef really out his case from your perspective is that inevitable that the House is going to impeach President Trump Well I don't think it's inevitable if you follow the facts I heard Chairman shift lay out his talking points and that's very different than the facts and I think what we need we need to understand is right now in the present just highlighted this in the tweet within 48 hours of the hearing that's happening in judiciary tomorrow we have the judiciary team changing the guidelines in the rules for what impeachment is all about after the Nixon impeachment effort the Congressional Research Service put out guidelines and said This is what impeachment should be based on it's been updated now all the sudden there's new found evidence by Jerry Madden or news team it's because the facts are not supporting their argument but when I'm asking you if you think it's a novel that that's also a political calculation do you think there will be a single Republican defection I don't you know I don't want to speak for all my colleagues but based on my conversations with them I don't see a single Republican defecting they've looked at the facts they know where we are on this I think if anything there's more pressure on my Democrat colleagues where instead of having just 2 defections we may have more than that coming up as the articles get voted on but inevitably there you know that or you're just guessing that you're going to see more than 2 well I said there's more pressure on that guy and I have talked to a number of my moderate Democrat colleagues and and I know there are a few that are out there that are real concerned again I don't speak for Republicans or Democrats broadly but I do have conversations bipartisan conversations on a regular basis. One of the wildcards here at Rudy Giuliani president's attorney he was in Ukraine this week and you just heard chairmanships say he's not sure exactly what the president meant yesterday when he said that a report is going to be produced to Congress and the attorney general by Rudy Giuliani Well I think if Adam Schiff wants to look at the evidence wouldn't he whether it comes from Rudy Giuliani or anybody else wouldn't he be happy to see any evidence of foreign intervention in terms of the 2016 elections so I'm sorry are you saying you would trust any information Rudy Giuliani produces as credible I would trust any information that comes to Congress to be able to be evaluated in a neutral manner so whether it comes from Rudy Giuliani or or some Democrat witness that's there if they're bringing information Congress has an obligation to look at it we have the oversight responsibility is there so. Let me just finish real quickly so if he's getting relevant information that comes comes forth from Ukraine I think it's important for us to look at so many times people have said listen Ukrainian's never got involved the 2 $1016.00 election well that's just not accurate because he could run impeachment is about the upcoming election and Joe Biden one of your colleagues gates of Florida who's a fellow Republican said it's weird for him to see Rudy Giuliani out there do you I'm not suggesting that you think Giuliani is a comment under oath Well I think that Rudy Giuliani if he's got evidence that's important to eliminate this should come in should testify I agree with that the other aspect of this that is critically important that so many people are starting to look at their They're trying to focus on really Giuliani this impeachment is about withholding foreign aid and and Rudy didn't have anything to do with that why he actually none of the promises none of the so-called interference in elections actually ever. Adam Schiff just was on here just Rudy Giuliani has said on this program and elsewhere that Joe Biden needs to be investigated he has propagated this idea that at the center of it all as you now but it. One of the things the White House did this week was put out a letter saying it's not essentially going to participate in these upcoming hearings right but then the president the same time and Republicans like yourself say he's not getting a fair shake so how do you have it both ways of not participating but then complaining about not being included Well listen if you can change the rules Marc I'll play any game with you no matter how talented you are if I get to control the rules I will win every time and that's what happens when you won the majority but no that's not because what we have standards here and what happens is as I've been in over 100 hours of depositions I've seen my Democrat colleagues time and time again leak out what's favorable to them and not favorable to the president they've done it over and over and over again that's not fair and should should the president participate in an unfair process absolutely not he'll get a fair process if it gets to the Senate and you're saying it's not inevitable that that will happen but I think it's probable but not inevitable I also want to ask you I know you care about government funding being fiscally responsible we're about 2 weeks out from a deadline here running out of government funding do you see the chance or where do you see the chances of a government shutdown can they be avoided I think it will be avoided I think I know the president wants to avoid it I believe based on what Nancy Pelosi says she wants to avoid it here's what they're going to have to do there you know how the border while fighting Well Nancy Pelosi made an agreement not to go back when we increased the debt ceiling in the previous budget deal she agreed to leave the funding there that is static and so what I would say a continuing resolution for those viewers that are out there continuing the funding as it is for 3 or 4 months while we get this impeachment. Effort off the agenda is certainly appropriate I think the president would sign that and I believe my Democrat colleagues would as well Congressman good to have you think you greatly you coming up next we're going to switch gears talk about news fresh to America with White House National Security Adviser Robert O'Brian He's standing by Don't go away. Down this is why I do think a great Cadillac Well I'm glad you enjoyed it but if they decide to head back in oh . Can we go back sure tomorrow let's stick with. It be careful get out of the boat it's a kayak dad. I'm going to return the kayak as make sure you have everything yet can we walk home how about a taxi. To 33 North maple please it's a short fare from your neighborhood to your nature head visit discover the For a start or to find a neighborhood park or green space near you also find fun activities to deal like boating and biking or camping and hiking class much more it's all right in her nature her past day ever. A public service announcement brought to you by the Ad Council and u.s. Forest Service. 181 and I had a stroke when I walk I can be walk 145 or 92 and then I had a heart attack on 182 over 100 and I had a heart attack and a cardiac arrest and then a Strat everything changed it felt like my life is over this is what high blood pressure sounds like you may not feel its symptoms but the results from a heart attack or stroke are far from invisible or silent 150 or 90 and I had a stroke I would have followed a treatment plan I would not be 'd in this situation 180 or 110 and I had a stroke and I'm 33 so I know see this coming if you come off your treatment plan get back on it or talk with your doctor to create an exercise diet medication plan the work for you to lower your h b p dot org I had to tell everything change to all brought you by the American Heart Association American Medical Association and your council. And we're back with White House national security advisor Robert O'Bryant Good morning to you Mr Ambassador good morning Margaret we saw overnight North Korea conducted what it called a very important test in your view are they preparing to restart nuclear tests. I hope not that would be a mistake on the part of North Korea when we came into office the president was faced with a very difficult situation North Korea President Obama told him it was the most dangerous. Problem he would face in the world through a combination of tough sanctions and military show forces we were able to convince Kim John and it to come to a summit at that summit Kim Jong un promised to denuclearize North Korea and we expect him to live up to the promise he made at the summit in Singapore and we hope will do so well his ambassador to the u.n. Said yesterday denuclearization is already gone to the negotiating table the president seemed to nod to that a new tweet this morning with this task and that statement it seems an explicit recognition here is that on their end diplomacy is dead what's the u.s. Going to do if they restart tests well I'd be pretty nervous if I was Saddam bastard because Chris Kim Jong un has said publicly that he will do nuclear as the North Korean Pet of the Korean Peninsula for a North Korean ambassador to take a contrary position to the leader I think in that circumstance is a pretty dangerous thing for him to do when our ally and diplomats don't usually freelance you know that well they they they have and it doesn't end well for me if they do so I'm a little surprised by that comment by the u.n. Ambassador will have to see what happens we're continuing with our negotiations begin is going down to the region. Soon and we'll we'll see what happens but we have plenty of tools in the tool kit if if North Korea takes a different path than the one it's promised its people the people of South Korea the United States the world Kim Jong un said that he is going to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula if he does not do that then we'll take that into account and we've got plenty of tools in the toolkit where you've got time running out that with this end of year deadline Kim Jong un has sat Do you expect to have the u.s. And North Korea meet you expect President Trump to speak to Kim Jong un Well we'll see we'd like to have continued to go she ations we were in Stockholm not too long ago for negotiations with the North Korean team and with. Like to continue those negotiations and look we'd like to see this end up in a peaceful resolution and a resolution that that is good for the people of North Korea they could be a great country they could have a tremendous economic powerhouse in North Korea instead of starving and b. Imports so they've got to make a choice and we hope they make the right choice I want to ask about something here at home we saw a Saudi military officer shoot dad 3 Americans wounded 8 at a Pensacola base was the shooter acting alone is this a terrorist attack so we