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The standoff in ukraine took another turn friday when russian president putin reached out to president obama in a surprise phone call. Secretary of state kerry and Russian Foreign minister labroff are meeting today in paris. Washington remains on alert over russias massive troop buildup along the border with ukraine. Joining me now from michigan, congressman mike rogers who had his own surprise this week when announced hes stepping down as chair of the powerful House Intelligence Committee at the end of the year. Congressman, welcome back to fox news sunday. Chris, its great to be back. Lets start with putins phone call with president obama. While the white house would phrase this as putin discussing pursuing a diplomatic resolution, the kremlin says he called to talk about extremists threatening ethnic russians in ukraine. What is your best analysis given particularly the buildup of Russian Troops along the border with ukraine . Whats your analysis . Is putin looking for a way out or simply setting the stage foofor another invasion . Hes not looking for a way out. You have two environments going on at the same time, chris. You have the ukraine issue and you have the georgia issue. So theyre moving some of the most advanced equipment into the south. No reason to do that. The Georgian Army pose noes threat. That is certainly concerning. Then you see all of the Russian Movement along the border. You see russian coverts influence operations meaning they have their intelligence officials and their special forces inside ukraine trying to forment this notion that the russian shuz come in. There is no way that i would take that as any other sign other than he is looking for a way to find his land bridge from crimea along the northern baltic sea area which is right along the moldova and ukraine border. Whether you say you see no it other explanation, you are saying you think hes going to move into Eastern Ukraine . I wouldnt see that he would go into Eastern Ukraine. If i looked at it to day, nobody really knows. They dont know what his intentions are other than you can gauge by history and what his actions are today, he really if hes going to protect crimea from a military perspective, there is a water source several hundred miles north of crimea. He needs a land bridge to connect the area that already said they wanted to be a part of the russian federation. Thats right along the top of the baltic sea area. So if i were looking at this and going to lay down some stakes of where he was going, thats exactly what i would think he would do. He would do that first, the southern part and then he would continue his covert influence campaign in the east of ukraine. And there is just not a lot that can happen. United states said were going to give mres, i think theyre finally getting here this weekend. But its taken us weeks just to get food to the folks who are saying they want to stand up to russian aggression in the east of ukraine. Just to talk about the situation in Eastern Ukraine, youre best intelligence, how many Russian Troops are there along that eastern border and how threatening is their posture right now . We see tens of thousands. Its not just the number of troops, its the kind of troops and the kind of configuration. What units are along that border and what could they accomplish. They have everything they need already, i believe, on that eastern border to go into ukraine if they decide they want to do it. So theyve got the special forces teams. They have heavy armor elements. They have all of the light infantry and heavy armored infantry they need to move in to ukraine. And i think theres theyre going to continue this pressure. Theyre going to continue the covert influence campaign in Eastern Ukraine to i think to kind of forment this at least future decision to go into the eastern part. I would look at the south. I think that there is real possibilities that he wants to gain that ground in the south. And then i would ask why is he moving the equipment that he is into the south up in georgia . Which makes really no sense other than theyre contemplating maybe using the armor columns to drive through georgia down to armenia, create a land bridge from iran. If you look at all the possibilities that they lay out on the table, it is really concerning. I doubt putin called because he thought that he wasnt in the best spot in that particular conversation. Let me move to another troubling issue and that is the continuing mystery of Malaysia Airlines flight 370. The australians moved the search area. Let me put a map up. 700 miles northeast closer to the coast of Western Australia based on new radar analysis. Congressman, theyre finding more debris in the area although they havent so far been able to link it directly to the flight. Are you how confident are you that theyre now looking in the right area . Well, i cant say the right area because debris moves and the weight of the impact and the heaviest part of that aircraft probably went down at least on some angle. The debris field can move. Thats whats so difficult, i think, and presents such awe huge challenge. The probability is very, very high that that aircraft is at the bottom of the indian ocean somewhere. It is going to take some time. Remember, this is a planes are big but not big in relation to the indian ocean. This becomes a mathematical and a little bit of luck equation for them as theyre continuing their patterns for search. The fbi for some period of time now, more than a week, has been examining the computer hard drives of the two pilots who were in the cockpit as well as the hard drive for the Flight Simulator of the lead pilot. And there are reports that they have done a thorough examination and have come up empty. Have come up with a dead end. Question, is that true . Well, i have seen nothing yet that comes out of the investigation that would lead me to conclude that there was some anything other than a nornlal flight that something happened and something went wrong. Now again, theyre going to compare the forensics on the computer with a fullback ground on not only just the pilots but every crew member and every passenger on that aircraft will take a tremendous amount of time to do that. So there is, you know, were just going to have to be patient as this thing unfolds and the only way to really find out what happened is to try to find the airframe itself or as much of it is intact so they can do the forensic investigation on that. That will be the best place to make the final determination of what happened barring if there were some conspiracy and its pretty hard in the world to keep conspiracies quiet that there was some conspiracy that they could uncover in the portion of the human portion of the investigation, the passengers and the crew. Congressman, lets turn to the benghazi terror attack. The former acting director of the cia is going to be testifying before your House Intelligence Committee this weekend open hearing. Question, what do you want to find out from him . Well, weve had two hearings with Michael Morell in a classified setting. Weve had some additional information. I think its important for him to have the opportunity to answer questions on the Public Record and allow the public to see, you know, the House Intelligence Committee has done more investigative work, more public hearings excuse me, more hearings, more Committee Time hearings, more subcommittee hearings than all the other committees. But is there a specific question or a specific issue that you want to resolve with him . Well, i think we do. The fact of the memo and the talking points is important. Many believe that there was political influence on the changing of those talking points in that particular in the day thats happened right after the event. We need to make sure if that in fact is not true. Additionally, you know, we know that facts on the ground said hey that the state department folks were requesting help and didnt get it. We need to try to make sure americans and the committee fully understand that link and why that didnt happen. Was it anything that the cia did leading up to the event or was this completely a state Department Failure when these folks were asking for additional security and somebody in that chain of command for security clearly didnt ignored the threats and, ignored the intelligence and unfortunately at least contributed to the death of four americans. Finally, i want to talk to you about mike rogers. You had quite a surprise. This time was stopped when you announced on friday that youre planning to step down at the end of the year, not seek reelection. And to pursue a career on radio. I have a couple of questions. First of all, you seemed in effect to indicate in your announcement that you think and youre the chair of a very powerful committee, but you can contribute as much as a radio talk show host. Do you really believe that, sir . Well, heres the thing. When i took the committee, it was not functioning very well. So i work with my ranking member, democrat from maryland. We agree were going to take all the politics out of it. During the last 3 1 2 years and will be 4 years at the end, i think we made really important strides to take the partisanship out of National Security and fix some very hard technical problems, everything from cyber to space and everything in between, human collections. Weve done that. Ive helped do that. Ive helped drive that agenda. You know, it was an interesting opportunity when you see the level of debate today, chris, on National Security issues and foreign policy, it worries me tr the future of this country iowa just as random states. You know, Ronald Reagan back in 1980, i dont have to tell you, used his platform as a radio commentator to run for president. So is that a consideration for you . Are you prepared at this point to rule out any interest in 2016 . Ronald reagan used his platform on radio to run for president of the United States . I had no idea, chris. So what are you saying . No. Listen, im going to take it where it goes. This is a very unique opportunity that i will be able to talk about issues in ways you dont hear on a National Radio platform today about the importance of National Security, foreign policy, and all of the issues facing america. To have that intimate conversation with listeners was very appealing to me all across the United States. My goal here is to be is engaging as i can and to get listeners opinion. If i can move the needle, there are veb a lot of celebrities us issues that you are detrimental to the United States and the politics is as small as ive ever seen it. Wait. I have to ask were over time. You say celebrity politicians, you want to name one . Oh, i think that youre listeners are mart and savvy enough to make their own list. First of all, youve always been a gret congressman and great guest. I suspect youll be successful as a radio talk show host. Im sure well get the chance to do it again before you start your new career. 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Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. What we need right now to resolve the situation is for russia to move back those troops and to begin negotiations directly with the Ukrainian Government as well as the international community. President obama calling for russia to seek a peaceful solution to the standoff in ukraine. Its time now for our sunday group. Gop strategist karl rove. We welcome ron fortier of the national journal, Kimberly Strassel and charles lane of the washington post. Karl, im going to ask you the same question i asked mike rogers. What do you think putin was up to with that phone call with the president on friday night . Do you think hes looking for a way out . Do you think he was trying to set the predicate of extremists threatening ethnic russians to set the stage to open the possibility of further military action . We dont know. And thats the issue. Have things gone on beneath the surface over the last couple of days that have caused putin to believe that its time to call halt and find an off ramp for his activities or is he laying the predicate for further action . Less than a month ago he told the president to his flatly out, direct, i have no territorial ambitions for crimea. Well not be an exing crimea. We looked and been behind strategically the curve all along. The president is not thinking ahead, has not been thinking ahead. We are where we are because of a lack of strategic thinking. The president in the last few weeks has made the situation worse. The comment about putin acting out of weakness was good for good trash talking on the Basketball Court but the thing that is going to enrage putin. The comment that president made of we hear heres what we need. No, what we need to frame this in terms of what russia needs and what russia needs to do is find an off ramp and we need to force him on to that off ramp. The question is what is the president doing to get ahead of this by finding ways to pressure putin on to an off ramp . Meanwhile, ukrainian officials keep asking the u. S. And europe for military weapons to defend their country. President obama keeps saying, no. As you just heard mike rogers say, we are finally providing rations, military rations to the ukrainians which means theyll be able to eat but not necessarily be able to fight. Ron, do you think that military aid might be effective in forcing putin to recalculate what the cost is of military action or enflame the situation . I think it might. The big problem we have might what . Might actually help force russias hand, force putins hand. I think there is very little obama can do now. We need to look at our allies in europe. We have a president on the record saying im not that interested in putins motivations. Im more interested on the facts on the ground. How can you not be interested in putins motivations . I would get up every day worried about his motivations and try to figure out how i can get a step ahead of him. He has not been a step ahead of putin, hes been a step behind. During his trip to europe this week, the president had to deal with criticism that he has been naive towards putin and he also had to answer a question about m. I. Itt romney who said t russia was our number one geopolitical thug. Here is how the president answered that. Russia is a Regional Power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors not out of strength but out of weakness. Kim, this is the clip that karl was just talking about. One, did it get obama off the hook politically in terms of the criticism that hes been naive . And secondsly, what does that do when youve got putin who made it very clear and had a long list of grievances about how the west has been pushing russia around, dismissing russia, kicking sand in its face like a bully at the beach. Does this just further enflame that . This does not get him off the hook at all. The real problem, of course putin is going to put out his list of grievances. But the real reason that were in this situation is america has not taken a forceful enough stance in order to try to get russia to back down. That is what putin looks for. Not words, not calls to international law. He wants to know if there is going to be anyone who is going to stop him. In that regard, i disagree. I think there is a lot that president could be doing to show that theyre not going to stand for this. They could be bolstering nato which is hollowed a lot in recent years. He could be talking about missile defense. He could be sending arms to the ukraine. He could be doing he could be bolstering our naval presence in the black sea. There is a lot to send the message that youre not going to stand by and let this guy get away with it. I dont disagree with that. That stuff sh have been helping before he started moving on crimea. But they t