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With the law he's accused activists from Australia of encouraging them to stay despite the unsanitary conditions human rights groups have condemned the way the men have been treated calling for a new resettlement deal the Lebanese president to me show on has expressed his concern over Sard Hariri who suddenly resigned as prime minister on Saturday while in Saudi Arabia many in Lebanon believe that he's effectively being held under house arrest by the sound is but the French prime minister has suggested that this is not the case. You're listening to World News from the b.b.c. . Turkish police in Istanbul have arrested 82 foreigners suspected of having links to the Islamic state group and planning to travel to Syria Local media say the detainees have previously been involved with i.a.s. In conflict zones since August nearly a 1000 I or suspects have been arrested in more than 100 counter-terrorism raids by Turkish police. South Sudan's former army chief General Paul Molong has been released from house arrest he was sacked in May and held in the capital Juba to prevent him from launching a revolt Local media say he's not allowed to travel to his home area in the north west last week troops surrounded his house in an attempt to disarm his bodyguards. Debate is continuing in the Indian capital Delhi about how to tackle the toxic smoke which is engulfing the area for a 4th consecutive day weather conditions and Cobb Bowen ing in neighboring states are being blamed as contributory factors Joe McGovern reports Delhi residents say visibility is marginally better but pollutants are still many times higher than recommended health levels there is growing anger about the misery caused by the toxics Mark and pressure on politicians to act on Thursday Delhi as chief minister out of in Kejriwal announced an emergency measure to reduce traffic and odd even scheme based on registration numbers but it's unclear how effective that will be and whether public transport will cope with demand crop burning is also seen as a factor but there's no political agreement yet on ending that sermon is for being held in Belgium to mark the centenary of the end of one of the bloodiest battles of the 1st World War passion there 100 years ago today Canadian troops finally captured the region of the village of passion there from the German army events conclude in the evening with the procession to the rebuild parish church and a concert campaign came to symbolize many of the horrors of the 1st World War b.b.c. News. Thanks you listening to the news or I'm from the b.b.c. World Service with me Nick Miles America 1st that's the message don't trump reiterated at the Asia Pacific Economic and Economic Cooperation summit in Vietnam with the focus on trade he told business and political leaders that the United States would no longer tolerate what he called the chronic trade abuses of other nations the current trade imbalance is not acceptable I do not blame China or any other country of which there are many for taking advantage of the United States or in tray if their representatives are able to get away with it they are just doing their jobs. I wish previous administrations in my country saw what was happening and did something about it. They did not but I will. From this day forward we will compete on a fair and equal basis we are not going to let the United States be taken advantage of anymore. I am always going to put America 1st the same way that I expect all of you in this room to put your country's 1st. Asia business correspondent Corish move to Swami spoke to me from the summit in the event in the city of demand from President Xi of China outlined his vision for economic cooperation in the region in pursuing economic globalization we should make it a more open more intrusive with more here balanced. Critical. And a more beneficial to all we should uphold multilateralism pursuit shared growth through consult Haitian a collaboration forged shows of partnerships. And build a community with a shared true true for men kind of show courage for there was very much that was for Swami at the APEC summit in Vietnam when it comes to BRICs it we're a few hours away from a symbolic point in time for about to pass the halfway mark between the moment when the referendum was won through the campaign to leave the e.u. And the moment the u.k. Could exit the European Union the prime minister tourism a has written a newspaper article where she outlines plans to set the U.K.'s departure time into law she wants to write it on a bill going through Parliament next week but the man who drafted the mechanism used to leave the European Union says there's too much talk about BRICs it being irreversible His name is Lord Curry and he's been speaking to the b.b.c. Sarah Montague bricks to create the impression that it is because of the European Union's treaty does because of the way Article 50 is written that having sent in a letter on the 25 Maastricht 17 we must leave all automatically on the 20 lightly . 2019 at the latest that is not true and it seems to me that that is what is misleading does misleading to suggest that a decision that we are taking a ton of ministry in this country about the timing of our departure is Rick we are required to take by a provision of e.u. Treaty law I think there's something to be said for. Putting it on the face of the bill I don't disagree with the present draft of the bill says that. The government shall have the right by statute to do so when it is the day I think it's probably more honest and open to put it on the face of the bill so I'm not in a suit against them I'm just saying that one should bear in mind that you do not always possible at a later stage to do so even if it's on the face of the bill even if it sets in with the this amendment passes there's still right up to the date itself a possibility to say Stop that's what I'm saying let's speak to our political correspondent Ben right Ben those comments I imagine will come as more bad news for Mrs mates when a bad week she's already lost 2 cabinet members to resignations but her article was pretty tough and the terror and the talk she said about not telling rating attempts to block breaks it wasn't very much and I think you have to see it as you say in the context of a very difficult period for the government to Cabinet ministers have been lost in the last week there's a sense of a government adrift struggling on lacking direction and I think you see in her article today the prime minister trying to regain you know some a mentor and make a punchy argument and say that whatever happens Britain will be leaving the e.u. In March 29000 it is inevitable there is no going back this is our driving ambition of the government despite what critics will say despite what people might try and do to overturn that as he's trying to I think find some momentum at the moment but you are right you have there Lord Kerr the man who drafted the process to the country leave the e.u. Saying right up. Till the last minute a departing member state can change its mind this is a political decision but for the u.k. Government it has the power. To to to flick this into reverse and you put that to people in number 10 and they are totally dismissive of the idea that this this could happen they say that the train has left the station it is not returning but once again it muddies the waters doesn't it there's no real clarity and this morning we've seen that the Federation of German industry is saying there's unlikely to be a comprehensive deal in time there might be a hard break so the u.k. Might pull out a any non-tariff agreements all these kind of issues it adds to the uncertainty there's no doubt it without a doubt and a lot of her actually said that as far as he was concerned it was just absolutely fabulous fantasy to think that there could be some sort of proper trade agreement done over the next 12 months in time for Britain to leave he said it best there will be transitional arrangements put in place but his argument is that actually Britain once it's left the e.u. In March $2900.00 no going back and that it would still want to continue to negotiate the terms of a free trade deal and all the rest of it but perhaps many years but having lost any seat at the table and so he's wanting to make it clear to British the British voters today that this can be reversed and actually it could be more sensible for Britain still to think it will be leaving in the long term still to plan for that but do so as members of the European Union beyond March 21000 and I think he's just saying from his from his point of view that is legally doable but the point is we don't know because that article 50 has never been triggered before. It might be legally possible 'd as I said politically at the moment it feels that is simply a nonstarter for the u.k. Government Ok Ben we will revisit this many times over the next weeks and months and then right our political correspondent and you're listening to the b.b.c. World Service Gerri's here with the headlines at an Asia Pacific Economic Summit President Trump has defended his American 1st approach but his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping insisted globalization was no irreversible. Moscow says it will return 8 against American media organizations after Washington ordered the television channel Russia Today to register as a foreign agent and put up a New Guinea is dismantling makeshift shelters set an Australian offshore detention center that faces imminent closure Thanks Derek more on that now that there are still several 100 men at the Mannus Island center and they're refusing to leave their men say they fear reprisals from the local population if they do move but officials have cut off water and electricity supplies and activist group get up has put out a video it says it shows men at the camp the one 3rd the shower is not working this is a very good thing with the 2 you still have in your condition but they're still beautiful if we sit here right now wouldn't bother We Q You couldn't get water boarding so we did this thing it's this science for us that this is something out for you so it really does become you say Meanwhile the Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has told them that they could be forcibly moved if they don't leave the camp by Saturday I asked our correspondent in Australia holy Griffith why Australia wants them to move there was always going to be a deadline for the money has come to close these trailing government put that deadline of the 31st of October so 10 days has passed since the company Fishley closed and no fish leave these men and the lot of Papua New Guinea it was part of the deal between Australian Papua New Guinea that they would take over now there are 3 alternatives centers depending on the refugee status that these men can go to or nuts what they've been encouraged to do but initially some 600 held out and still some 500 insisting that not take them to do so so they're saying they're not going to leave because they're concerned for their safety at how much credibility is there in that you think it is always difficult to get to the truth among a silent clearly everyone has. As an agenda to some extent these men are there they are campaigning wanted the eyes of the world to fall on them likewise the puppy New Guinea authorities want to try and tell everyone everything there is safe we understand that there have been incidents of people being robbed but certainly they say they fear for their safety and they don't want to go to these new comes because of that fear Meanwhile the authorities are preparing for this deadline what's going to happen in the hours leading up to that and then afterwards according to the letter sent out to the people in the camp of the authorities which includes the police the immigration authorities may be members of the p. And g. Navy as well will be on standby we understand that the fences have already been dismantled so increasingly there's less left left of this camp but in terms of what they will physically do the letter says that if necessary force may be used to remove the men and that is says it is for their own sake from the footage has been released by the campaign to get up we know the conditions there are unsanitary you mentioned there that some groups are supporting these people how much sympathy is there back in Australia one of the facets of this policy is that it removes the problem from within Australia and so to some extent it takes it out of the headlines for most of the time there are many here who are campaigning on the behalf of the minus detainees liberal groups left leaning groups maybe saying that these men should be brought here in contravention of policy but the flipside to that is the campaign as a being accused by the strong government of kind of orchestrating this of encouraging vulnerable people to stay in unsafe unsanitary conditions that was whole Griffin next month senator actually in the u.s. State of Alabama to replace Jeff Sessions who's now the attorney general the Republican candidate former Judge Roy Moore but he's been accused of sexually abusing a 14 you. Old girl in 1709 Mr Moore has dismissed the claims but some of called for him to pull out of the election as we heard from Jon Sopel in Washington if these allegations are true was the case of the awful lot of Republican senators have given but think very quickly go on to say that Roy Moore should step aside if they are proven one has to come out and said actually he should just step aside for the sake of the Republican Party he shows no sign of doing that and as he put out a statement saying these allegations are completely false under a desperate political attack by the National Democratic Party and The Washington Post on this campaign the Alabama state auditor has something more extraordinary take Mary and Joseph Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult Carpenter they became parents of Jesus in other words justifying it this is if he doesn't get out the race every time that any Republican is asked they're going to be asked to support Roy Moore or not he is a firebrand he's got very controversial views the Republican establishment don't like him one little bit and they would love him to get out of the race he doesn't look like he's going to which means that the person he defeated for the nomination could stand as a write in can't you just say I want this person live the strangest there is to be the next person so that could happen in which case it will divide the Republican vote. The Lupita Nyong'o is on the cover of the u.k. Edition of the fashion magazine Grandsir this month but she's far from happy about the fact that she's accused the magazine of editing it to fit a more Euro centric notion of what beautiful hair looks like when I speak to the B.B.C.'s Isaac funny Isaac tell us about what gravity is done and how Lupita Nyong'o as responded you know she is in the north they happy bunny she's on the cover of the magazine where she appears with sort of very short hair style and she's a bit upset at the fact that they seem to how they've kind of cut off the back of the. So in a ponytail in the original image that she put on Instagram she said that she was disappointed and with the magazine because actually being on the cover gave her an opportunity to show and in her own words about dark kinky hair people in particular children that they are beautiful just the way they are now she's talked about struggling to embrace her dark skin and thought the thought that light skinned is the embodiment of beauty and ironically in this interview that she did with the magazine she said that those days were actually over so she says that there was room in this world for that beauty to be diverse and so we're still waiting to hear from Graziella they haven't responded yet but it doesn't look very good she says that there's still a long way to go to combat the unconscious prejudice against black women and it's not the 1st time that magazines have been accused of actually transcending that this is actually the 2nd time this has happened in the space of less than a month it happened last month with the launch you know beyond says' little sister she appeared on the front cover of the London Evening Standard magazine and they sort of cut off the top of it was a very elaborate hairstyle and they said that they were doing it for layout purposes but there was a big big backlash lots of people kind of complained about the journalist who wrote the article This owned it and she the London Evening Standard magazine they apologized they said story and the interesting thing about the laundry is one of her favorite songs is don't touch my hair and she and people younger have no doubt told those magazines not to do that Ok I said I was excited. Jerry is here with some other stories from the news desk officials from the United Nations the e.u. And regional powers are in his back is done to discuss ways to come back to extremism the b.b.c. Has been granted permission to report from his Pakistan after being effectively banned from the country for over 12 years well Vernon reports from summer canned there has been an increase in value. Spilling over from the border with Afghanistan and a spate of recent terrorist attacks in the West carried out by Central Asian migrants have worried regional leaders once described as one of the most repressive nations on earth was because Stan has witnessed the coarsest liberalization since President South cut it is a year of assumed power last year however the reforms so far have been limited officials here say that the democratization process takes time but the people are optimistic and eager for more freedoms the taxi hailing firm has lost an appeal at a London court against a ruling that gave his drivers employment rights an earlier ruling had or to do better to treat the drivers as workers rather than self employed independent contractors after 2 drivers argued that they were entitled to the minimum wage sick pay and paid leave the Scottish girl denied a British passport because she could not find the birth certificate requested by the u.k. Home Office has been made a British citizen the unnamed 14 year old from the Western Isles has been unable to trace her mother her father died in 2015 Thanks Gerri triple word scores are staying in Nairobi at the moment the Kenyan capital is hosting the World Scrabble championships and as you know the aim of Scrabble is to place letters on a board to form words that achieves the highest points Nigeria is currently the defending world champion in the field that it's dominated for years David where food is covering the event. At this sounds or to hear it from a fire hose have to taste big shuffled up the mess truck before you place them on Iraq to start the Scrabble game. Point each to abort their 2 Scrabble boards and I take my end on everything. From it was it and every letter the piece a certain amount of points or so from now is a lot of. Creation of words a lot of shuffling and a lot of thinking and of course attrition. Rates. Among the world class players grace in this event are here because of the sheer love of the game. A Kenyan who has been enjoying scrabble for over 5 years my major expected to socialize people from different countries so it's good to know people from everywhere as for reading am hoping I can and when that and I mean so fingers crossed Scrabble tests knowledge and must of English words in a country elect and then here we are 3 languages dominant and where the school curriculum is taught in Swahili such a game faces challenges Dr is my truck is the team leader that does pose of caring and that's why we have been slow in trying to take it to the schools and everything because unlike Uganda and Kenya in terms of a great many previous years the medium of education was so Healy So this is all let into them students will be hopefully the new generation which is coming they're more English medium schools coming up and that's where we expect to pick up the future scholars in terms of now in this era of mindgames teenagers are not left behind they're joining the bandwagon 17 year old mit believe that trouble is way much better than the movies and series which have taken over their living rooms and it's all about annoying yourself when you start engaging in movies in series they want help in your life but once you engage in Scrabble or what games change. Your mind it helps you to think a lot think by that any 2 also helps in your life and you studies Nigeria is the defending champion and at the same time the number one Scrabble play nation in the wired. Is a Nigerian scrabble for the Russian chairperson So what makes Nigeria so good at Scrabble what we have done is that we realized that there was this problem in terms of we didn't have it all for you. Teen years ago we noted that these 2 words immersion we decided to go to. The primaries to Sherry's to shows to introduce again or Scrabble and for the 1st time we have for years some of the young players to do that here all their music of love you could describe just. As there is to crown the best to what get mission on Earth continues their 5 day event marks the 1st day of the championship is being held in Africa since it's published meant to 6 years ago that was David Mulford a reporter a reminder of the main news at an Asia Pacific Economic Summit President Trump has defended his America 1st approach but his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping insisted globalization was now irreversible. Distribution of the b.b.c. World Service in the u.s. Has made possible by American Public Media producer and distributor of award winning public radio content a.p.m. American Public Media with support from Dana Farber Cancer Institute recognized by u.s. Marines and World Report as a national leader in cancer care more at Dana Farber dot org slash cancer. I'm already brown in South Africa by heart I'm still on the b.b.c. World Service I'm here in the township of Kylie Jacques in Cape Town to find out why a student protest to remove the statue of the colonialist steps on John roads led to a prominent cleric called Ask the Santa to disband his own church and reject his lifelong faith after 30 years of struggling to make Christianity relevant to the lives of his black congregation that's heart and soul after the b.b.c. News. B.b.c. News with Jerry Smit contrasting visions on the future of international trade have been presented at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Vietnam President Trump told assemble business and political leaders that he would not allow the u.s. To be taken advantage of anymore he said he would always put u.s. Interests 1st and expected them to reciprocate the Chinese president Xi Jinping then told the same audience that globalization was irreversible a must give equal benefits to all countries the Russian foreign ministry has said it will return 8 against American media organizations working in Russia after the Kremlin funded television channel r.t. Said it is being required to register in the United States as a foreign agent r.t. Said the move was an attack on free speech is being singled out following allegations that Russia interfered in last year's presidential elections the author it is improper New Guinea have started to dismantle makeshift shelters at an Australian offshore detention center hours before a deadline for refugees to leave or be forcibly moved. The Lebanese president Michel Aoun has expressed his concern over Saad Hariri as calls grow in Lebanon for the former prime minister's immediate return many believe that he's effectively being held under house arrest by the Saudis. Reports from Syria suggest that the Islamic state group has not yet fully lost its last stronghold in the country despite claims of victory by the Syrian army activists say that I asked has recaptured almost half of the border town of. The taxi hailing from has lost an appeal at a London court against a ruling the gave its drivers employment rights and sermon is being held in Belgium to mark the centenary of the end of one of the bloodiest battles of the 1st World War passion Dale as many as 700000 allied and German soldiers were killed b.b.c. News. Was. Only his call ask or sign on the train theologian I lived in church community for over 30 years as a proxy preacher our church was begun in 1906 so this makes a girl work 21st year as we we're ending on one thing here we were looking forward to our 20th anniversary and we came to a place called a crisis of faith. I'll ask a son that is a youthful looking 50 year old fiery and sit he's the pastor of The Way of Life Church in the township of Khayelitsha in Cape Town for nearly 20 years he minister to a community impoverished by the legacy of a park date in that time he sought to make strip Joe relevant to his congregation being Jesus to live among them in the townships I'm Audrey Brown and for heart and soul from the b.b.c. World Service I mean South Africa to me Paula and to find out more about the message he's preaching in some of the poorest areas of the country. It's a controversial message but it's a message that echoes the wider story here but of course not all Christians agree with him and not all black people here have adopted his provocative starts when I finish my studies and begin to come into the ministry I have to ask the question you know how different will this church be you know why start another church when there's so many other churches if you're not going to offer anything different anything new and so we have been experimenting with all kinds of things including preaching you know someone's that very controversial in fact one of the summers that came out of this space which caught the attention literally attention of the world was when we said Jesus was HIV positive a simple reading of the scripture you know when Jesus says I was sick and so we began to ask what kind of sickness does Jesus associate himself with and so we've had all kinds of experimentation including holding annual conference is under the auspices of black Easter that's what we used to call it Black Easter the question where does Christian begin and end where does blackness begin and where does culture begin and end Kala has reached the end of the questioning he has denounced Christianity and he's publicly calling for the white church to be disbanded I had to look at myself in the mirror and ask if I want to pursue the issue of justice the cause of justice do I want to pursue it within the parameters within the framework of Christian spirituality as I have done in the last at least 30 years and I came to a place in my life where I said well maybe this works for others but for me I want to give myself the permission now to be able to respond to the crisis of black existence in the world not being lit. By the lens the Christian lens by the Christian dictates that many times I felt that I was putting words in in Jesus his mouth or God's mouth I twisted the Bible so that Christian it could be relevant to society black society in particular but I could not continue to do that any longer. Since. It was never going to meet. The psychological. Effect of foreign occupation this is Paul a speaking to students at the University of Cape Town during a rally to remove the statue of the arch colonizer sessile John Rhodes from the campus for the students this statue represents a vicious system that even now perpetuates injustice and inequality in South Africa it was this moment that led to Carla abandoning his faith and is battling his own chess G.B.'s quest with fighting each day see they are called which teaches statures to know a lot of which. Is the very calming miseducation in. Calcutta. A few 100 meters away from that statue on the campus of the University of Cape Town is a further memorial elaborate Lions crouching 8 of them instead leading up Tam friendly to a bust of several John road contemplating the vista of Cape Town and from the position that it's placed looking to the north into the rest of Africa from here at the point the very tip of the continent and there is an inscription that says that this stands for the life and work of the John Rhodes who loved and served South Africa now it's this kind of glorification that the students in South Africa basically took exception to and took offense to when they decided that the statue of Rhodes must fall it did and the roiling that was felt in South Africa in 2015 echo to today and we finding it in religion too with people like Santa who are saying that religion needs to be decolonized. Ok We're just going to get out of the car now and I'm with philosopher Santa and we're in a suburb called Rhonda Bush which is it's quite close to the university and colors are very interesting story to tell about what happened to him when he was on this road jogging what happened when for. As I used to soon as I stepped on the main road here on the streets a picture conjured up in my mind and it was so real I saw posters that were hanging on the electric poles and description written on the poster. Read desponding the white church color is part of a growing movement that is questioning the relevance of Christianity in South Africa today. You are the keeper of the key. For the printing press. I have questions with regards to all the wide God and if people why black people not like not living like white people why do black people have to wait until they are dead to experience the streets of gold Jesus does not come to emancipate black people then I have issues with Jesus really is him kids share was one of colors congregants before he denounced Christianity Ok Are we doing publishing we are publishing house would publish books the name of the publishing as proprietor of the printing business she is now an Integra part of a new movement happening in the building that once housed scholars Way of Life Church like color she believes that Christianity does not address her lived experiences as a black woman I feel like I live in hell I feel like where is he weighs this God why are we dying like flies and at the hands of men that are supposed to protect us he's just quiet he's promising me sort of cold after I die I want them now I want to go I want to walk in the streets of cold and feel safe not the hell that I am living in as a black woman I mean both babies the infant I think. It's school holidays and their children being cared for in this for my church. My standing in the middle of a very big hole there's a little stage in the front painting over there that has black is beautiful here Oh my to my name is Melissa I'm one of the people that are here where Kinglake abandoned all the programs that were busy with this place is a well known. As a way of Life Church for going to one years but yeah we just recently changed it to Kilamba village Columb of village is that him that used to long time ago for a place where by the slaves or ran away from their staffs and get a time to with think about themselves and get to knowledge themselves and to think about the issues at around there's so much and employment. That we are in the place called in Cape Town Khayelitsha that is the 2nd biggest down ship in South Africa Ok after so we're told that there's so much and employment in the book the one what is going to. Offend morning morning. Can I come in quickly Ok have a quick check I can see. It's a boy's room isn't it. Is one of the students that brought down the statue of sessile John Rhodes on the campus of the University of Cape Town excluded from the university and alienated from his family for his role in the protests he now lives in one of the rooms of Colombo village color's form a church he takes me to a site not far from the former church where people live in overcrowded backyard shacks they've been clashing with the authorities over a piece of land that they want for proper housing and money tells me a chilling story. So a car came out of nowhere it was a white car what came out of that car with. Very angry men who were sort of here so this is that I asked them you know identifying the main victim but they were not in the business of negotiating or talking immediately they pulled out guns. And only one man was shot has anybody been charged. Nobody has been charged yet but they say that a case underway Monday and the shocked well as here believe that their leader comrade rather was assassinated because they were disrupting the plans of some very powerful people it was done by people who have a vested interest in this flame and as you can see where it's located it's located within a very what I would call the Katie church business district because you have your more you have more you have your police station you have a business hub of some sort so it's a very strategic land. You you. Can't take it off the people. Who are fighting the enemy who next thing I did to convince the culture. Which was their language we knocked on their difference twixt. And their deepest longings for $3.00. 20 a week that's what to. Me That's what it is to reduce for people to and I mean my lipstick extends for eating a different. Much thank you thank. Allah speech in there to students like Monday he tells the crowd about the anger he feels that the indignity of poverty and how in his eyes the Established Church has failed to respond to these problems. And it's this connection in his thinking that led to his condemnation of his own Christian faith imo Brown and for heart and soul from the b.b.c. World Service I mean South Africa to hear why call us to Santa has rejected his own faith after 30 years of struggling to make Christianity relevant to the lives of his black congregation we struggled with a whole lot of things within our faith and no longer subscribe to every tenet of Christian spirituality we were beginning to wrestle with the society particularly of black people and the pain that it is prevent in society in black society in particular. And we were looking for tools within Christian spirituality to respond to to that pain what brought it on this crisis of faith it's the persistent brokenness is the burden of being black it just seemed incapable to answer the basic contradiction of being black in the world in was becoming more and more shallow it was becoming more and more superficial. And we had spent quite a time. Really mining our genes excavating theological tools to respond to the question of blackness in the world borrowing from black liberation theology but over well if I begin counting from 1086 when I converted to Christianity formally converted even though I grew up in a Christianised space. So when I count from 986 to 2016 when we had maybe I had a crisis of faith it was 30 years. And within the last 30 years I gave my life to devotion to the cause of Christ is a very you know it pursued it wholeheartedly part of Turner struggle to reconcile his faith was to find a way to join black and white communities in South Africa we needed them to open our minds and the minds of our church to black people in black culture and black churches and they needed us with somebody sources which was necessary for them to function better Leon was Tasing is a pastor of the fear list or desire for peace congregation he is one of the very few white South Africans of a certain age that I have ever met who admits to having voted for about 8 he joined forces with to bring their congregations one black the other white together in a meaningful way because many many white churches trying to help black churches it's a very top down thing typical a liberal politics kind of thing you know let's challenge them to help him but but don't get too close to us Leon found in those interactions that he had a lot to learn from Carla I think he was very sensitive about exposing people to situations where the not used to and then that they will not be able to cope and be themselves he took me once into a computer room where they gave computer training to a lot of black women he told me Look look Al the setting when we come in all of them look down there they didn't look up. And that's a a huge thing I had to learn that we must be very very careful to don't let people black people think they're inferior they're not good enough and that once he's number one criteria for when ever we were doing things need to look out for that why can't we not to be good you see everyone here he just small little boy Leon I'm preaching to their combined congregations you know that 2 men shared the same ideals then even though they came from completely different. Myself I started the journey I was coming from not so much from a few logical or philosophical problem but because I was identified with the Dutch Reformed Church that was my baggage and being white because at that stage color was pretty much in black theology I think you still there and he had just written a book disband the white church because they doing nothing for the black church in the townships that's suffering over there so it was quite a thing for him after writing this book. This bent the white church and now suddenly I mean his face. Leon and his congregation fund several of the projects run by Carlos church even know that it is no longer a church close rejection of Christianity it's Leon but he says he understands in a sit in since he did see me. I can understand where it's coming from because not much has changed this is probably part of protection I mean nothing has changed you know there's just a new elite know but basically looking after themselves people in power are calling the shots in the way that benefits them all over the world. I mean St George's Cathedral the seats of the archbishop of Cape Town Desmond Tutu the 1st black man to occupy that position made famous for his stance against the plastic. Michael leader as the dean here represents the Anglican Church one of the most powerful establishments in the world. Michael Shea's struggle to reconcile the supremacist face a colonizing Church represents he too struggles to see himself through the eyes of God or the lovely sermons that are from the lovely lovely Irish priest Father Fred Marx and father Johnny Allman the white deuce and came to Algiers over there spoke eloquent sermons about love but nothing with in their theology and pastoral care in Able me to see myself as loved by God to black consciousness to do that when it said you know you're not the negative of anybody that you are lovable that you will that your skin color or those that you are that the various ways to be beautiful in this world in black consciousness brought that Marxism even to help me further to liberate myself from from my stance of of shame of being poor but Carlos' radical rejection of Christianity is not the answer for him because as someone of mixed heritage in South Africa Christianity is Michael's only identity by African self as being destroyed in the Holocaust that followed colonization my my slave descendant identity by the time we've left the shores of South India the archipelago of in the news a Malaysian military that idea we are 3 times removed from our names when your story is larger. And. When they even don't talk about you you don't exist trade. Liberalization alerts you have to the fact that you are part of humanity and the struggle for liberation and so that gives you the skills and the tools to look at ideology and to deconstruct it but now you can destroy it because you've got to feign that brown skin Jesus. That your mother sings about. That she embraces the reason why I'm still a Christian why Absalom Anglican because I'm not a Methodist I'm not a reformed said and that's my tribal identity. We should Desmond can still look at this of course ourself. And everything that was there. His language was never taken away from him his culture and the way or the traces of Africa you could renegotiate me I have nothing except any kind of but this seems to be a movement in South Africa now that saying no we can make things in you I'm just giving you a look at the telescope and as book called disband the white church. It seems that the movement that started with the rose mess for the colonization movement of the students is saying that no we cannot we can no longer justify rearrange or change these things these things are not of Alice they're not asked we want them gone do you have sympathy for that moment I haven't a standing. I can understand how people come to those conclusions and I think it's a rational outflow of of of neglect on the one hand because it is an anger. That has been ignored Michael has made his peace with Christianity as his primary identity and as the dean of the very citadel of any can power in Africa he has transformed the way in which they worship at St George's Cathedral. But standing by the side of the road way 1st had the vision to disband the white church the last scoffs at these changes utopian programs can never be Africanized whether they come in the form of really just ideas if you bring drums or bands it remains as a foreign religious idea and it be replaces and some plans. Our own or original ideas and therefore we're invited to be visitors in the world and never own our soul and never own our ideas and never be authentic try to imagine a Jesus who lived in the townships suffering the indignities of continued deepening poverty like his congregants he tried to make common cause with white Christians like Leon was the reason to end the suffering of his congregation all institutions that maintain that kind of foreign idea religious idea. They must then be put under scrutiny it must account for its relevance and it must account for its relationship to white privilege it must account for its relationship to Black Pain It must account for its relationship to the legacy of a party in the in the history of our party must account for its relationship to separate development which is ongoing in South Africa today so the vicar has very many struggles still to wage and there is no doubt that the church was and is a part of those struggles colors message has been heard among the poorest in townships like Khayelitsha where progress since the end of apartheid is different. To see his idea of sacrificing and rejecting his own faith his own belief is controversial the idea of a black Jesus suffering with HIV alongside the people has gained color a following in the townships and recognition some of it critical caller is one of a long line of charismatic church leaders in South Africa his message is equal parts thrilling and intimidating for those who find no answers in the Established Church or the text of the Bible how successful he will be in persuading black Christians to follow him out of the church is not certain but there is no doubt that what he preaches feeds into an ongoing conversation in South Africa he tried to understand his faith through the eyes of a black Jesus one that has a separate story to the white Jesus he grew up with in South Africa a Jesus who lives in the townships in the end he gave up he denounced his lifelong faith in the Bible and disbanded his own church he's gathered a significant audience of young activists like man d.c. Now Lisa and simply to who feel that Jesus doesn't live in the townships suffering what they suffer Christianity is not the answer to the questions they have so if colors because Santa is no longer a follower of Christ what is he now I'm a black man the black body is has become my text I read that text now before I read any other text and what does it say the black body as text the black body is text is saying that the world is anti black It speaks a language that has not been written has not been spoken it invites the world into a new dimension of pain that is not is yet to be described. It is a cumulative pain a cumulative brokenness. Comes out of many many years. Exclusion of bigger days. And I don't think we have we have come to a place yet to develop a long waits or even a text to respond to that Jesus lived in the townships was produced and presented by me or Dr Brown for heart and soul on the b.b.c. Well. Distribution of the b.b.c. 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