Officials say that these men know that these no how to worker run these zero tracks. Banta they have done hundreds if not thousands of these inspections in their career. It sounded like a big bang then metal screeching and its probably the train trying to stop after what happened reporter bart Officials Say there was an experienced operator at the controls, but the train was in automatic mode meaning controlled by a computer. The bart worker and contract employee were out looking for a slight dip in the rail that was reported from an earlier train. Such an inspection is considered a simple approval procedure. Basically depending on the nature of what youre doing on the track, there are varying degrees of protection that are provided. They are to stay clear of the track way, not interfere with mainline operations be able to clear the envelope within 15 seconds of when a train gets to their location. Reporter bart trains are not running for public use, but this train had just transported some cars from the concord to Richmond Yard to clean up graffitti and was on its way back when the 2 workers were struck. He was in tact. He mustve gotten hit and flew off. The other guy got dragged. You just see someone in the middle of the track. Just wedged there. He mustve been dragged. Reporter officials tell us this is the 6th and 7th fatality in 40 plus years of barts history. Atu 1555 says they will not picket tomorrow out of respect for the families involved. Live in walnut creek. Alecia reid, kron 4 news. Its also day two of the bart strike. And, tonight there is no end in sight. Kron fours Philippe Djegal is live in oakland. With the latest on where negotiations stand now. Philippe. Reporter john, we know that either side to met today. But we are learning that one of the three unions will hold a bart meeting. You can see that some of the workers are still picketing outside of the lake merritt station in oakland. They still plan on doing that at least through the night. If we did speak with the local 1555. She said that the mean its Sticking Point are on wages. And even rules on how employees are scheduled that is what is holding up negotiations right now. Go work rules govern our lives lives as workers and were not going to give those up because those are issues that impact us. These are established practices. To give that of that means anything can happen again do and say anything at all. Reporter and the local 1555 is the union that will hold a vote later this week. Next week but there is still no time line as one this strike will end. As for bart . Hes spokespersons speaking on behalf of the general managers saying that there will not be talking about negotiations because of the tragedy in walnut creek. We are dealing with this situation where the labor situation is not in the forefront of our minds. We just have lost two people in the bart family. That is what our focus is on today, to get through this evening. Notifying the next of kin and trying to find out what happened. I am not even going to try to find out to mention what else what happened of of the tragedy. Reporter we have seen several Union Members here with thicket science and holding candles in the light of the tragedy. Holding ticket signs and holdings of candles. To see if the union will be holding a vote next week to determine weather or not they will except the latest board and final offer. However, if they will accept the latest bart offer. They did not however, return any of our calls phillipe djegal, kron 4 news. The bart strike has had commuters looking for alternative transit options San Francisco bay ferry is a popular choice. The service more than doubled their daily ridership yesterday. And today kron 4s mike pelton found many of those waiting at the ferry stressed out and fed up with the bart strike. Reporter watching the sunrise is not how tami polucci wanted to spend her saturday morning but the bart strike left her with few options to get to work. Had boyfriend drop me off, take the ferry, will probably get to work on time. Reporter she is one of hundreds who hustled to catch the first ferry from oakland to San Francisco at 8 this morning. More bs i am tired of this tie frustrating i am a single mom. And these long lines are filled with little patience. Infuriated. Death reporter kimberly castillo, who is taking the ferry to work in San Francisco tells me the the bart strike has her spending and spending big about 100 dollars a day, babysitter. Arafat of our gamow reporter while the ferry is not everyones plan a some say its a decent plan b. During the bart strike San Francisco bay ferry is running extra ferrys and offering expanded service on the weekend between oakland, alameda and San Francisco. With a regular weekend schedule between vallejo and San Francisco took it, its nice to take the water i dont mind it reporter while that is the feeling for some many are simply fed up with the strike. But some like tami admit. Julys bart strike left them better prepared this time. Reporter mike pierce kron 4 news. Stay connected with kron 4 for the latest on the bart strike. Check in on kron4 dot com. Also our facebook and twitter pages. You can also download our mobile app to get push alerts for the latest bart information. A grass fire in pacifica threatens several homes and causes an Apartment Building to evacuate. The fire was reported to be burning behind homes on milagra drive around four today. Fire crews say flames quickly spread. Threatening homes on the 400 block of manor drive and causing a temporary evacuation of an Apartment Building. Several agencies assisted in efforts to put out the fire. The flames were quickly controlled by five. The cause of the fire is still under investigation. No injuries have been reported. Officials are investigating a new twist in the recent death of Lynne Spalding at s f general hospital. A worker reported stepping over an unconscious woman a week before her body was found. 57 yearold Lynne Spalding disappeared from her hospital room on september 21st and her body was found in a locked stairwell more than two weeks later. Officials have not determined her cause of death. But believe spalding had been dead for several days when she was found. Lots of sunshine are round of the they for today but some fog for the coast. Temperatures were in lowand if he these inland to. Nearly 86 degrees for with 80s and the 70s hear the bay. 70s for the most part but in ocean beach temperatures were in the 50s. The fog kind of did stick around however, some clear skies along the feverish toll plaza and this class of we will see clearer skies for tonight. We will see the 50s by the bay and 40s inland. Possibly upper 30s in the north bay. For tomorrow, a sunny day. 80s by the bay. Whorf coming out. 50 . Poloitical expert is here to discuss the ongoing bart negotiations. Plus. You may have seen some dirty bart stations in the past, but wait untill you see this bart employee break room. And the budget battle in washington drags on. Well tell where lawmakers are now in reaching a deal. Stay with us. The Great American novel. So you can happily let life get in the way, while planning for tomorrow. So you can finish the Great American novel banking for the life you have investing for the life you want chase. So you can people on facebook are sounding off. Venting their frustrations with the bart strike tricia says i think the riders should strike against bart. This is ridiculous tony asks where can you get a 12percent raise in four years and still not be happy kerre says this is so frustrating all the people in the bayarea that need jobs and theyre totally taking theirs for grated we want to keep hearing your thoughts about the bart strike. Find us on facebook at kron 4 news to share your comments or tweet us our political analyst michael yaki joins us now to discuss the bart strike and seemingly lack of movement from either side. Which is only contributing to gridlock on the ground. And frustration among commuters. Guest i think the tragedy is terrible however, it does not have any impact on the negotiations. He is already a very stressful situation for everybody. Absolutely. Guest we do not want to just cherry pit want to put things to a vote and there is no nancy pelosi running to the management of safety and rescue for the answer. I think if there are answers solidified and both sides. The impact on the commuters on both sides and people are severely impacted by this countless times we have heard. And they feel like they are getting a lot of lip service. What they really care about the writers really . Guest i think that is an excellent point, vicki. If they really did care about the commuters. They would swallow their pride and get back to the bargaining table. The only people that are the real losers are the commuters of the bay area. And of course, the economy, and especially the working poor. With the individuals. I am hoping that possibly somebody could file a Class Action Law suit. It will probably go nowhere. Or what. Oinda. The orinda. City councilperson to make the strike illegal. Guest that is to remedy a state law. Most of them want to just have ever turned a phone call. But to call your state legislators. To have a return tophone call, get what ever it takes to get these people back to the bargaining table. But this is about our lives. And i always say that if this goes in to monday it could go even longer. They are just too entrenched in that point. The frustration levels is still growing. Thank you, michael. If youd like to contact michael he is on michael yaki at twitter yaki blog. Thanks michael. Michael yaki follow him on twitter atyakiblog. The partial Government Shutdown is over. But could there be a round two . Lawmakers only ended it this week by passing a bill to fund the government through january 15 th. Now a budget battle between the house and senate will continue. Scott thompson has the latest. There were no winners in this. Reporter the 16day shutdown is over and furloughed workers are back to work and National Parks and zoos reopened, all seems to be back to normal in washington, dc, but is it . The goverment is now funded through janurary 15th. But the clock is ticking for a new budget plan. Many americans are skeptical the government cant agree on a deal in just a few months. Both republicans and democrats cannot get along, and honestly i have no faith in them. They should be able to sit down like sensible people and settle things. Reporter Going Forward the Budget Conference Committee will try and blend a senate and house budget plan by december 13th. If they arent successful we could enter another Government Shutdown. We should sit down and pursue a balanced approach to a responsible budget. Reporter easier said then done as we have seen on capital hill. Tea Party Senator ted cruz is back for round two. In an interview expected to air on abcs this week, he didnt rule out shutting down the government a second time. I will continue to do anything i can to stop the train wreck that is obamacare. Reporter aside from obamacare funding republicans may also halt plans that raise taxes. And they will push for lower Government Spending and changes to entitlement programs. This wont bode well for the Senate Budget plan that includes tax increases. So now its another waiting game to see if the house and senate can come to a compromise before the last hour. Im Scott Thompson reporting. Clear skies from our mount tam looking over San Francisco a beautiful night. However, a fog paying, on the coast. And some of those clouds could be pushing towards the inland areas but still mainly conditions expected for tomorrow. For the beaches, a fog bank. 70s for the bay and 80s inland. This nice fall season weather will stay for next week monday4 the next weekend will look nice. This satellite looking nice. With the exception of those low clouds at the coast and this weather system in the pacific. It is slowly going to make its way to the west coast. It is going to possibly hold off. Before. Parks over the ocean and anticipate. Prepares the fog tracker at midnight. Land if willdissipate over the ocean. By 8 00 p. M. 9 00 p. M. , there could be some of this fog by the golden gate by 8 00 a. M. 9 00 a. M. And perhaps some fog your catalog. But it will clear quickly for tomorrow afternoon by petaluma. With mid upper 70s for the southbay. And a los gatos getting up to 80 degrees. Millipede is and a sunny day with highs in the low 80s. 80s in antioch, livermore, 60s 70s for the bayshore. 75 today a bit cooler however, for tomorrow. Low 70s in oakland and the north bay powerhous60s along the coast ane your kron 4 7 day around the bay not much changes as we go for the entire work week. Patches of fog but otherwise mostly sunny skies and temperatures are generally going to be mid 70s. Mid 80s inland. Fairfield police are asking for public help in finding a person of interest in a strong arm robbery. They say an elderly woman was robbed in the driveway of her home last month. Surveillance video from a local store caught this man watching the woman. Then following her. Police want to question him. Hes described as hispanic, about fivefootseven and of medium build. Hundreds of volunteers took part in a Community Project saturday to help cleanup San Francisco. The Citys Department of public works hosts the event. Which usually takes place every month. Today was the last Community Cleanup event of this year. This month. Volunteers worked to refurbish and replant street median strips. A public works employee describe important volunteers are for these projects. These are Major Projects but as you can see the city has only a handful of gardeners to do many of these medians. With all the extra hands that we get there is no way the city staff could get all this done. Together by noon well get three hundred people times four hours, that will be more than twelve hundred hours of work. Convert that to the number of city staff to get twelve hundred hours would take months. This is how we go about getting our city green and clean and we greatly appreciate all the help that has been given us. After a three month hiatus the giant sweep Community Cleanup program will return in february. Coming up a bay area student is already getting into this. With a lot of joy. Coming up this park in San Francisco that has a lot to offer. Most of it you might not want. But i will let you decide in the next edition of people behaving badly. At farmers, we make you smarter about insurance. Because what you dont know, can hurt you. What if you didnt know that posting your travel plans online may attract burglars . [woman] off to hawaii what if you didnt know that as the price of gold rises, so should the coverage on your jewelry . [prospector] ahh what if you didnt know that kitty litter can help you out of a slippery situation . The more you know, the better you can plan for whats ahead. Talk to farmers and get smarter about your insurance. We are farmers bum pa dum, bum bum bum bum there is a park in San Francisco were you might find, two little girls selling lemonade at well lets just say at a slightly inflated cost. Here you go, let me give you your dollar first, what i only get a half cup for a dollar, its ok thank you. You might also see familys riding their bikes on neat and clean pathways. But if you get off the beaten path, you might see things like packaged turkey legs filled with maggots from andronacos market. You might also find this chewed up Peanut Butter container that was being carried by a squirrel. If you dont look where you are stepping you might just step into some human waste the dead give away is the bathroom tissue scattered around. Some of the trash left in the park is a result of festivals and people who simply dont care, and then there are the homeless encpampments this guy with the bow, i fax didnt see any arrows but he is heading inside to meet up with a guy named mike and leaves. Ifinside the incampment you will find this woman sleeping however i asked mike to come out and talk to me. Fat philadelphia so that touched half my hear string for a moment i asked him how long has he been here then he asked me. Is this a good thng or bad thing. Notice, all you have to do is cut off the beaten path. But you might not want to. Stanley roberts, kron 4 news. If you have a comment or story idea for stanley, email us at people behaving badly at kron4. Com. Still, board employes are dead after an accident on the trucks we still have details on bart employees dead. A reminder. There are still weekend transit options during the bart strike. And the cloudiness that will have for tomorrow. Look at them with that uverse wireless receiver. Back in our day, we couldnt just move the tv wherever we wanted. Yeah, our birthday entertainment was a mathemagician. Because if theres anything that improves magic, its math. The only thing he taught us was how to subtract kids from a party. Lets get some cake in you. I could go for some cake. [ male announcer ] switch and add a wireless receiver. Get uverse tv for 19 a month for 2 years with qualifying bundles. Rethink possible. male announcer this is the bay area news station. Kron 4 news starts now. The National Transportation safety board announces that it will investigate the death of th to bart employees. One was a contract employee and one was a bart employee shortly after 2 00 p. M. This is video courtesy of our helicopter parternship with abc 7 news. These men work and ducting real inspections between pleasanton. According to bart officials theyre looking for a slight dip in the rails. They say that th