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Ifill our lead story tonight, the outcome of the battle at a Shopping Mall in nairobi, kenya, remains in doubt, even as the government claims its troops are in control. Unclear, but Officials Say at least 62 people have died, with more than 170 hurt. All has jess have been released. [gunfire] the crack of gunfire was still echoing all day outside of the Shopping Mall. Two days after militants stormed the building. This morning four large explosions shock the complex and thick black smoke poored out for an hour hour. Government sources said they had taken most the complex. Our resolve to defend our country has never been higher. And we want to say that we will take the war to the criminals doorstep. The interior minister also said troops killed at least two of the attackers during the day fighting and arrested more than 10 others. But still the fighting continues. They are running and hiding somewhere or something but all now is under our control and i can confirm we have cordoned the building and there are no room for escapees. The governments pronouncements were met with frustrate of frustration in nairobi. They are taking too much time. They are supposed to be under this thing in like six hours and supposed to finish everything. I couldnt think that we are not working on it. The battle began on saturday with a burst of chaos and terror. Witnesses said 10 to 15 armed militants apparently male, though some dressed in womens clothing, stormed the mall and opened fire on shoppers, taking some of them hostage. Some were able to escape as armed forces rushed to answer the alarm, childrens and others were escorted to safety by security personnel. Alshabbab with ties to al qaeda said they were retaliating for the offensive in somalia in 2011. That helped drive al shabbab out of area it once controlled. The Group Released an audio statement on the web today. This afternoon we heard from the president of kenya who said he will seek revenge on al shabbab wherever they are but you have to know your forces are still very few places in somalia where they will now we are fighting in nairobi. The target, the west gate luxury Shopping Mall is popular with kenyans and foreigners and the confirmed ted include british, french and canadian. In addition, the kenyans president own nephew and neff eyes fiancee were killed along with kofi anuna, ambassador to the United Nations. The attackers also came from all over the world, including the United States. We have an idea who these people are and they are clearly a national coalition. We go out, we have an idea, and we also have an idea that this is not clear a local event. We have fighting in here. After making a condolence call to the president before leaving the white house this morning, president obama met with nigerian president at the United Nation and pledged u. S. Support. The International Community has to stand against the excellence e. Senseless violence that these kind of moves represent. Back in kenya family members of the victims mourned their losses. As night fell, the site remained a crime scene. We will well have much more on the situation in kenya right after the other news of this day. In pakistan, the death toll rose to 85, with more than 140 wounded, one day after a Taliban Attack on a christian chur. It happened in peshawar, where a pair of suicide bombers blew themselves up as worshipers were leaving a sunday service. Today christians across pakistan took to the streets to protest the attacks. Demonstrators blocked roads and demanded better security for the countrys christian minority. We want an end to extremism, terrorism, and barbarism in pakistan. I appeal to the home my name i. Minister to control the situation in the country and provide protection to religious minorities so churches are safe. Ifill the Pakistani Taliban vowed to continue targeting non muslims until the u. S. Halts drone strikes on militant leaders. A court in egypt today banned the Muslim Brotherhood and ordered its assets seized. It was the latest move in a crackdown by the militarybacked government. About 2,000 brotherhood members have been arrested since islamist president Mohammed Morsi was ousted. The group was outlawed for decades, but reemerged in 2011, after president Hosni Mubarak was forced from power. The United Nations is reporting dramatic progress in the global fight against aids and h. I. V. It said today there were 1. 6 million aidsrelated deaths last year, down fully onethird from the peak year of 2005. The combined h. I. V. Infection rate for adults and children has dropped by the same amount since 2001. The numbers are even better for children, with infections cut in half since 2001. The u. N. Credits greater access to antiretroviral treatments. In germany, chancellor Angela Merkel and her conservative supporters celebrated a powerful showing in sundays elections. They fell just short of an absolute majority in parliament. We have a report narrated by matt frei of independent television news. This election has been so much about her that someone was bound to do this. It took last nights result to bring the lady to life like never before. The daughter from east germany, the physicist and the consummate chemist joining in the victory gig was a customary under statement. The democratic headquarters has not experienced this since the two germ niece united. Is the woman they call mom going to start no, she answered again and again. This message upset greeks and italians but made sense to germany. What germany stands accused of i have we want you to clean up your political economy and your addition function alsome so woe dont have to be under a brat. She needs to form a coalition and because her junior partners failed to get any seat in the parliament. We are open for talks. I already had a first conversation with the head of the social democrats who understandably casino to hold the first Party Convention on friday. And that could spell instability for germanys parliament and beyond. But then again the woman behind the hand gesture has emerged from the euro crises as one of the most powerful leaders in the world. The woman at the ifill the woman at the center of a furor over the Internal Revenue service is retiring. The agency confirmed today that lois lerner will not be back. She was placed on paid leave of absence in may, after she disclosed that the i. R. S. Targeted Tea Party Groups for additional scrutiny. Illegal immigration from mexico into the u. S. May be rising again, after falling during the recession. The Pew Research Centers hispanic trends project reported that finding today, based on census data. It said the number of People Living in this country illegally rose to 11. 7 million last year. Thats up about 400,000 since 2009. In economic news, blackberry agreed to be sold to an Investors Group for 4. 7 billion. The troubled smartphone pioneer announced friday its laying off 40 of its workforce. And on wall street, the Dow Jones Industrial average lost 49 points to close at 15,401. The nasdaq fell nine points to close at 3765. Still ahead on the newshour, kenyas foreign minister on the deadly attack; a look at the terrorist group behind the siege; former president clinton on syria, the budget battle, and more; paul solman on the employer mandate part of Health Care Reform; and looking abroad for ways to improve education here at home. Ifill we return now to the mall attack in kenya. Chief Foreign Affairs correspondent Margaret Warner, who is in new york this week covering the United Nations general assembly, caught up with the kenyan foreign minister amina mohamed. Like many others in government, she knew some of the victims. Mr. Mohamed, thank you for joining us and my condolences for what has happened in your country. Thank you. Thank you very much. We understand your daughter lost two of her very good friends there. That is correct. Theres always somebody there and its a huge tragedy. Huge. And still ongoing. Thats correct. What can you tell us about the perpetrators . It looks like a professional job. Absolutely. I think if you look awe hoss carried out, it was professional. It was clear to the government now that al shabbab has been working with others in other parts of the world to increase the outreach, their capacity, to expand the operations and to be able 0 reach places that hey have not reached before. You talk about with other al qaeda affiliates and wannabes around the world. Absolutely. Was your government surprised they had this kinds of reach to get in nairobi, pull off something of this scale without being detected . I think we were all shocked. And as governments, we must do better. If they can cooperate at that level and coordinate their evil at that level, governments around the world must coordinate more and be able to to share our intelligence and our resources, and we must be able to combine our efforts and collaborate more closely, just to make sure that we because this is a totally new way of doing business for them. And i think we have just seen how much damage can be done. We should not let them get away with this. Al shabbab made it clear this was in retaliation for what the kenyan portions have been doing effectively al shabbab in somalia and as part of the African Union operation inside small yaw. And any part of your government from pulling back from that . Absolutely not. I think were more strengthened in our resolve to do our best to aproof al shabbab everywhere and anyone we find them. We are waiting to protect our security and common interests. Al shabbab came into our country, taking tourists hostage, killing them and it was at that point we decided enough was enough and we wouldnt allow that. Kenya has a large number of somalia refugees in kenya. Do you think that has left kenya more vulnerable. I think it has. I think it has. It has been very, very difficult to differentiate between the officials and some of this element that have been hiding, so absolutely, i think its been something that we have been working on for a while. Any thought of being less welcoming to them. No. I think we have to open our doors, when anybody faces fear of persecution, i dont think this is going to be one of those occasions where we turn around and say, look, we will shut down, we will not do that. How closely are the kenyan and u. S. Governments working on intelligence and Law Enforcement side of all of this. I think now everybody is i think this year, that we deliver and we need to work much more closely with everybody but much more with the us and the uk government. You know the victims came from kenya, the United Kingdom and the United States. So. So both expwrish american citizens were among the perpetrators . Yes. From the information that we have, two or three americans, and i think so far i have heard of one britt. And the britt was a British Foreign woman. A woman. She has, i think, done this many times before. And from the information thats we have, young men, about between maybe 18 and 19. Somalia originin . All somali origin or one lived in the u. S. In minnesota and one other place. So thats just to underline, i think, the Global Nature of this war that were fighting. What can these countries of africa that have now seen outbursts from various al qaeda affiliates do to keep this part of africa from becoming the new hub of the al qaeda affiliates around the world . It will require responses at all levels and especially at the global level. And also the regional level, the sub regional level and the local levels. The people, they live among us, they live in our countries. We know that. And i think its time that we looked each other in the eye and said, listen, i think this he may have done something, and we need to be much more prepared to deal with this and we must always remain ahead of them. Thank you very much. Ifill for more on whos behind the attack, we turn to ray suarez. Suarez what is al shabbab, and what do they want . Is kenya equipped to deal with the militant group . We are joined by peter pham, director of the Nelson Institute for international and Public Affairs at James Madison university. As a somalia organization, concerned with who controls somalia, or a Transnational Organization . Its one way of evolving. Certainly a few years ago it was concerned with establishing an extremist, islamist state, enam rate in somalia. But defeats by African Union peacekeepers aided by Intervention Forces from eatsopia and kenya have put the group down on its heels and as a result it has been gradually transforming and this is perhaps, if you will, the first salvo of the group as its new formation as a Transnational Group attracting people not only from somali backgrounds but other backgrounds and fighting as the regional affiliate of al qaeda it became a year ago. They were pushed out of moag deesh you and out of their southern base. Are they operating out of trends or weakness when they do an audacious attack on a civilian target like a Shopping Mall . Ironically it was the weakness and defeat that enabled them to transform themselves. Up to that point, al shabbab was a coalition of different forces. Some interested in somali agenda, others in a transnational agenda. What happened since then it has allowed the current amir of al shabbab, to push the others and in some cases eliminate the other leaders and assume a much more cohesive control of the organization, so its more nimble and arguably much more lethal. But is there an actual political program, a goal, to an attack like this, you kill more than 50, more than 60 civilians but to what end . They cant topple the kenyan state. I think what theyre hoping to do is put their imprint. They became an al qaeda affiliate over a year ago and since then havent done much more in roadside bombings, an occasional truck bomb but now they hit it big and this attack shows a greater tactical sophistication than al shabbab has ever shown before, to create multiple fighters going into a Shopping Mall, at various levels, attacking this required reconnaissance weeks if not months in advance, and a support network in kenya which needs to be a concern to kenyan authorities now and neighboring countries need to ask themselves if they could be hosting a Similar Network or a sleeper cell and all of these are serious questions that need to be addressed. The dead come from a range of countries. But as we just heard the kenyan foreign minister tell margaret a few moments ago, the fighters come from a range of countries as well, possibly including the u. S. And britain. What does that tell you about al shabbab today . Well, it tells us that the pipeline al shabbab was unique among the al qaeda affiliates to begin with. Other al qaeda affiliates in the Arabian Peninsula has targeted the u. S. Homeland, unsuccessfully to date and other affiliates of al qaeda had people reach out to them. But al shabbab, they have been a pipe line to fellow fighters and recruits, to its fight in east africa as well as to send material support. There have been numerous federal investigations and convictions in u. S. Courts. This is a group with a reach back to america and it shows that these fighters, the ones the minister mentioned from the United States, britain, i have heard other reports of fighters coming from sweden and other countries, that the pipeline is still active, and its still drawing, even when the fight in somalia seems near finished, even with the transformation to a transnational agenda theyre still getting recruits. Ken y. Has become a hub for international operations, in relief agencies, International Groups and also military operations and it also has a large number of refugees on its soil. Does al shabbab organize in those somali camps . Is this something the kenyan state has had trouble with . As the minister mentioned in her interview with margaret this is something that kenya has gr