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KQEH Charlie Rose May 18, 2017

Sided them. Glor we conclude with charlies conversation with Gisele Bundchen, and environmentalist paul hawken. Rose you, for example, wore a sustainable dress to the met gala. Yes, my friend asked me to be the cochair and i was like, i really want to make it about something i believe, right. And then i stalled stella, Stella Mccartney is amazing because she really is kind of like leading this movement of, like, conscience fashion. So how you produced it, the clothes, make sure that it has no negative impact on the environment. So it was a sustainable. Dress. Do you like it. Glor politics and Climate Change when we continue. Rose funding for charlie rose is provided by the following and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Glor good evening, im jeff glor, filling in for charlie rose. We begin with a growing cloud of uncertainty hanging over the trump presidency. Less than a week after the firing of fbi director james comey the white house careened into further damage control today following reporting that President Trump asked comey to end an investigation into former National Security advisor Michael Flynns ties to russia. Meanwhile the president faces increasing questions about classified information he shared with Russian Diplomats during a meeting last week in the oval office. Joining me from washington is molly ballk a staff writer at the atlantic where she covers u. S. Politics. We are pleased to welcome her back to this program. To bring us up to speed here, the president did speak today to coast guard graduates and complain hes being treated worse and more unfairly than any politician in history. Yes, thats right. In an apparently scripted commencement address to the graduates of the Coast Guard Academy the president complained about the way hes being treated. So its clear, and i think sources inside the white house will tell you this too, that hes angry, hes lashing out but he continues to see himself as the victim here. And as the victim of an unfair process, an unfair media, an unfair bureaucracy, that he believes is out to get him even as he has, you know, more or less confirmed some of the most damning aspects of these allegations against him. Glor and unfair employees too as we speak about staff shakeups in the white house. Thats right, there is so much uncertainty inside the white house. Its very chaotic. You know, nobody on the staff knew that this was coming. And they are they dont know what could be the next shoe to drop give thean there seems to be, not to mix metaphors, a new can of worm opened every day. You referred to it as damage control which is what we are used to here in washington am but there is no controlling the damage. It seems very much to be out of control. They cant even put together a consistent attempt to explain what is happening because of the fear that the president himself will simply step on that rational in his next tweet or inte view and what yet another damaging story may be coming out that completely blind sides them. Glor and i think one notion you seem to be hearing a little bit more often these days from Mitch Mcconel talking about dealing with a little less drama from the white house is that there is this notion ununsustain aicialtd that i think some are bringing up here and that this or the of continued chaos, just may not be possible to maintain forever. There is that sense. But on the other hand there is not nobody knows how this ends. Nobody knows where this is going. Its hard to imagine all of the things that are now under investigation simply resolving themselves and going away but its also hard to imagine Something Like impeachment or resignation. Neither of those are seem to be in the cards. I was talking to some staffers on the republican side of the house of representatives today saying you know, does it feel like a damn has brokenment does it feel like somethings got to give. And this person said no, you know, thats really overselling it. People are now still hanging on by their finger nails. I said how does this story end and this person who spent a lot of years working as a top staffer to the House Republicans said this ends like reservoir dogs. Everybody dead on the floor. Glor to start here, lets talk about james comey. It would appear that he is eager to speak publicly. When will it happen and how soon do we think it might happen . We really dont know. The house and Senate Intelligence communities now have both requested the actual documents that were referred to in the New York Times story yesterday, this memo that the times actually did not physically have but had been read into and numerous other media organizations confirmed that reporting. So you have Jason Chaffetz chaffetz, the house and Senate Intelligence community all saying we want to see these documents, we want all the information. At this point they are just requesting the documents. And then you have chaffetz saying if they dont get what they want they are prepared to issue spps. Comey apparently wants to testify publicly. Apparently that was why he turned down the request to testify privately. But we dont yet know when that is going to happen as far as i know. Glor and these con temp rainious notes that james comey took as has been discussed, this is something he has done for a long time. So one would suspect as has been reported that there are a good number of them out there. Yes. It has been reported that comey kept detailed notes on every conversation he had with the president , in part to protect himself if there were ever questions about president ial interference. And partly because of that fear of the a paryngs of interference, appearance of fear of interference he did not share these with members of the bureau but memorialized them in written notes and this is also some what standard procedure throughout the fbi. Fbi agents notes are considered admissible in court in many instances. And this is a widespread practice to keep an accounting of conversations so that they can be referred to later. Glor there is not one unified republican message right now. If im right. Paul ryan spoke today, said you know, he wants to et go the facts but its clear people are out to hurt the president. That is different than john mccain saying this is a scandal of water gait sized proportion. It is sort of every man for himself right now. Republicans that i speak to feel that there is no leader they can count on. They certainly arent seeing leadership from the white house in terms of messaging and someone that they trust to protect them politically. And so theyre making different calculations. Theyre making political calculations. Theyre making personal calculations about whether or not they trust and believe these reports or whether or not they trust and believe in the president. And so you know, i would say theres definitely more skepticism of the white house in private and behind the scenes than has been voiced publicly. And theres definitely more on the senate side than in the house where i think there are more members who are sim pathetic to the president. But even among those members of congress who are troubled by the president s alleged conduct, many of them still feel like the best thing to do politically is to stort of strap in and fight, to say all right, you know, this is our president , this is our team. We have got to stand up for him and believing that that is particularly since he still enjoys the support of the vast majority of republicans, the base voters, feeling that that is the thing they have to do politically. Glor is there a sense though from the reporting that you have done from any republicans were standing in the sidelines to a certain extent and not getting on the record about some of this, that at some point they may need to stay more. Well, i mean, they would like nothing more than to just be left alone at this point but we keep asking them, right . And i think every republican member of congress or senate is getting a call from their local press, or is being a costed in the halls of the senate by reporters wanting to know what is your stance on this. Paul ryan, speaker of the house, as you mentioned, he was asked in his Morning Press Conference this morning does he still have confidence in the president. He said yes and then sort of ran out of the room. He was done with questions. And he looked really uncomfortable. And anybody who watched his level of comfort with trump during the campaign recalls this particular pained expression on paul ryans facial. So yeah there is a lot of worry that this is going to come down on them. There is a lot of worry that this is going to have political consequences, possibly up to and including democrats taking the house of representatives in 2018 and then being in a position to begin those impeachment proceedings. Glor because as all of this takes place, the republican agenda and the white house agenda is would seem to be partially stief eled here. I would say its utterly stief eled. I mean there stifeled. There is really nothing else they can handle right now in congress. You hear things here and there about well, lets just get back to work on tax reform but i dont think its realistic to think that anything else is going to get done. You certainly do in the have that healthcare bill thats so triumphantly passed the house. Youre not hearing a lot about senators just dying to get started on that legislation and put a win on the board that would take away from all of this. Everything has just been pushed off the board by all of these controversies. You have the president taking his first foreign trip, starting this weekend, going to a number of mostly religiously significant locales, going to israel, going to sawed ree arabia for a speech about the muslim world, visiting with the pope, with whom he has had interesting encounters in the past. And so there is some hope that there can be something of a reset. That he can retake the narrative. The trouble is that so often donald trump is very good at retaking the narrative. Hes very good at resetting the conversation. It just often tends to be in a negative way. Glor almost like chaos and paralysis at the same time right now in washington. On this foreign trip, so what, where does the white house want folks to focus right now . I think they would like the image to be of a president who is in control. A president who is going out there and impressing the world. He has a number of multilateral conferences on this trip. So its a chance for him to be among other world leaders, to project a sense of stature in the world. And the original idea behind this foreign trip was to some degree to normalize a white house that was already on shaky ground even before the comey firing and all this stuff started happening. Trump since he was elected has really set the world off balance in a way that i think some in his camp see as a good thing. But it has been disruptive and has caused a lot of doubts in the minds of our allies and enemy alike. So the foreign tripping was was seen as a way for him to take his right. Place on the world stage, project a president ial aura, give assurances where they are needed, and then very importantly, since he is visiting these places of religious significants, to make a real policy statement about where this white house stands on these issues of religious freedom and religious tolerance. Glor and how much of this, and there was the kissinger meeting, right, which was the same day as the meeting with the Russian Diplomats. And much has been discussed about that, about what kind of presentation that was for the president. Thats right. He has apparently been i, it is an unfathomable weird coincidence that Henry Kissinger was at the white house at the same day that the president had the meeting with the russians that has now come under such scrutiny. But this appears to have been part of his sort of crash course in international relations. He is attempting to educate himself. You will hear even from his friends that he is not a man with a large Attention Span and a man who fancies himself much more about the sort of big picture than a lot of minute details. So he can be a difficult person to brief. But he was attempting to get up to speed on a lot of this stuff that obviously never having been in politics, much less Foreign Relations before, he had really only seen through his lens as an international businessman. So kissinger and a number of others were coming to the white house and giving him advice. Glor molly ball from the atlantic, thank you so much. Thank you. Glor Gisele Bundchen is a supermod e8, mother of two and wife of new England Patriots Quarterback Tom Brady. She is also a passionate environmental activist and advocate. She recently teamed up with author and entrepreneur paul hawken to spread the word about a if you book he has edited. Its called drawdown, the most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse Global Warming. These are two people driven by a deep concern for the health of our planet and unfailing optimism that together things can change. Charlie spoke with Gisele Bundchen and paul hawken earlier this month. Here is that information. Rose Gisele Bundchen outanswerred all the worlds models for more than a decade. She spent more than half her life at the height of the fashion world. The 36 year old mother much two and wife of nfl Quarterback Tom Brady recently retired from the runway. She is now pursuing her longheld passion of advocating for the environment and her business career. She has teamed up with author paul hawken. His new book is drawdown, it explores solutions to Climate Change. Paul, heres the book. Drawdown, the most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse Global Warming. Edited by you. Yes. Glor what is drawndown. Drawdown is the first time in Green House Gases peak and go down on a yearly basis. Glor when does that happen . Well, we dont know but the point we try to make in that book is that nobody is aiming for it. We want to name the goal which is drawndown. Most if not all of the climate rhetoric is about reduction, mitigation, slowing, even stopping and stablization. But it isnt about reversal. So this is about reversal. Glor and you have. Rose and you have a hundred ways you can do that. What we did for the first time is map, measure and model the most substantive solutions to Global Warming. It has never been done before, charlie. Not the top ten, not the top 20. Weve done the math on what is going to happen if we dont attempt to stop the rise of Green House Gases. Weve never modeled and done the math on the most substantive solutions to Global Warming. Rose gisele i know you as someone who loves the planet. Yes. Rose and talks the planet. Yes. Rose and cares about the planet. Yes. Rose so how did you come together with paul. So i had the opportunity to meet, the pleasure to meet paul. We were with a group of friends that feel like we all friends that all feel like they have a responsibility in service, in using whatever gift that we each have to make the world a better place, i sayment to do our part. And paul came to one of these meetings, my friend pet ra working with paul brought him in and said listen, paul is going to make a presentation about drawdown. And have i to say he spoke with us for about two hours, and when he finished, i was so inspired, i was so, like i felt like i had received a boost of energy, you know. Because you know, all we hear, its about like were doomed and its the end of the world and its like we know we cant fix it. And i just had come in years of living dangerously which is a documentary about, you know, climate and people are just focusing so much on the negativity aspect of things. And everyone knows that fear paralyzes people it is not something that instigates people to move forward and create change. What does that is inspiration, when we inspire, then we can actually create something. Rose so this book inspired you to have goals and for everybody else to have goals. Yeah, i said oh my god, somebody is actually addressing solutions, someone is focusing on the solutions here, instead of focusing on the problem. Because how we are going to change things is not focusing on the problem. Is being aware of the problem but focusing and how we are going to solve them, that is what we need to put our energy too. Because where we put our energy is what grows. And if were focusing on the problem, then the problem grows. If you focus on the solution, the solution grows. And im a person who likes to focus on the solution. When paul offers the solution, he was like telling us the studies he has been doing in his book coming outk i was like how can i help, how do i sign up to help. And thats why im here. Rose because you impressed by the book and you wanted to share your enthusiasm. Yeah. And i felt like knowledge is power. And i think this information needs to get out. The more people have access to this information, they can hopefully be as inpire inspired as i am and see that there is are wonderful, tangible solutions that we can focus on and we can really do this thing. We can really kind of, you know, make this happen. And i just wanted people to kind of feel inspired and kind of focus on Real Solutions that because i love life. You know. I love our planet, the only home we have, you know, i want to make sure that it is here for a long time, for my kids. Rose how did you come to that . This idea of getting involved in saving the planet. We are nature, we are not separate from nature, you know what im saying. We are humans, i believe

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