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KQED PBS NewsHour August 17, 2017

More on tonights pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by Carnegie Corporation of new york. Supporting innovations in education, democratic engagement, and the advancement of International Peace and security. At carnegie. Org. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and individuals. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Sreenivasan 13 dead, scores more hurt, two arrests grim results of todays attack in barcelona, where a speeding vehicle vaulted a sidewalk and drove down its victims. It follows similar attacks across europe, and last weekend, in charlottesville, virginia. For more, we turn to max gayler, reporting for reuters in barcelona, and lorenzo vidino, who leads the program on extremism at George Washington university. Spain hasnt been the site of this attacks. Weve seen a lot of focus on london and france. Yeah, the last time spain was hit was in 2004 when we had the ma madrid bombings. Since europe has been i. S. I. S. Ing linked, spain has not been touched by radicalization and attacks as some of the northern and Central European countries have. Sreenivasan why is that . For a number of reasons but mostly mobilization in europe for i. S. I. S. Has been a Second Generation phenomenon. The southern countries like spain and italy do not have a lot of Second Generation muslims, persons born and raised in those countries. So im not saying spain has not been touched by radicalization. We have problems. If you look at the spanish enclaves in moroccan territory where apparently at least one of the attackers came from, those areas had a lot of problems, but mainland spain has not been hit with the same intensity in terms of numbers of people radicalized and in terms of foreign fighters, lets say france, u. K. , germany and belgium. Sreenivasan how good are the Security Systems in place in spain with the individuals behind this . Were they on the radar . Since 2004, spain has increased its counterterrorism capabilities. This is a country that has been hit by another form of terrorism, the bosque National Terrorism for a long time. So it has experience dealing with terrorism. Obviously as with other Law Enforcement in the United States as well, they cant intercept or monitor everything. They have disrupted quite a few plots over the last few years, hundreds have been arrested, this, again, in a country that has not seen the levels of radicalization as other European Countries. In barcelona as well, a plot was thwarted last year, pretty sophisticated one. Having said that, its the experience of everybody from europe to the United States that something always falls through the cracks. I think well see in the next few hours whether the individuals who carried out the attack were known to Law Enforcement as is often the case, had not known what happened, and i think thats something well pull out to sea. Sreenivasan this area is popular with tourists. But the method of attack, using a car, a van, anything, its almost unstoppable. It is. I think youve seen a lot of European Countries have put barriers in pedestrian areas. To be honest, im a bit surprised the city of barcelona has not done that in an area that is hugely popular with tourists. I think barcelona is one of the top three destinations of tourists and las ramblas especially, any time day or night is flooded with tourists. I think thats something that will have to be discussed in the aftermath of the attack. But obviously you cant block city centers, you cant close down places like arenas, an attack in manchester or any kind of social life. So, obviously, as any country and i think weve seen that in the states as well, certain precautions have been taken, but you cannot stop life, you cannot militarize. Sreenivasan what about the coordination between interpol, other European Countries, are they sharing information fast enough between countries to say you might have a threat here, here are three or four people who just crossed our border into yours . It is much better compared to a few years back. It is not perfect. Interposition does a good job. A lot of limitations in what can be done. I think you still have political dissidents, even some cases within individual countries, in some cases that may apply to spain, im not saying thats the case now, but political tensions between catalunya and the spanish government. And thats counterintelligence and information sharing. Information sharing is problematic. Sreenivasan lorenzo vidino, George Washington university, thank you so much. Thank you. Sreenivasan in a series of tweets, President Trump condemned the attack and offered help to the people of spain and raised a claim that the u. S. Army used bullets dipped in pigs blood to quell muslim rebels in the philippines years ago. The story has been widely debunked. Wall street plunged on news of the barcelona attack and worries about President Trumps agenda. Dow lost 274 points. Nasdaq fell 123 points and the top u. S. Diplomat insisted today that a potential u. S. Military response to north korea is still on the table. That, after the president s chief strategist, steve bannon, had said there is no military solution to the problem. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson responded, after he and defense secretary jim mattis met with their Japanese Counterparts in washington. A threat of proportions that none of us like to contemplate, has to be backed by Strong Military consequences if north korea chooses wrongly. And i think that is the message that the president has wanted to send to the leadership of north korea. Sreenivasan meanwhile, the chair of the joint chiefs of staff, general joseph dunford, said it would be unimaginable to let north korea have nuclear tipped ballistic missiles. In hong kong, three young activists were sent to prison for leading prodemocracy protests in 2014. A Court Sentenced joshua wong, nathan law and alex chow to up to eight months. They helped start the socalled Umbrella Movement against chinese curbs on elections. The three appeared outside the court before the sentencing and rallied supporters with a show of defiance. Even nathan, alex and i will be the ones who may be sent to prison immediately for half to one year. But what we believe is People United will never be defeated. Our courage and determination to fight for free elections and democracy will continue in this longterm battle. Sreenivasan the activists originally received much lighter sentences, but the court overturned those and imposed harsher penalties. New warnings today about the refugee crisis in south sudan. The u. N. Says one Million People have fled to uganda, with 1,800 more arriving every day to escape civil war. Video from the charity worldvision shows the largest refugee camp in the world, and Officials Say uganda is struggling to meet their needs. And, back in this country, drug maker mylan will pay 465 million to settle federal allegations of pricegouging for the epipen. The device can stop allergic reactions in emergencies. The Justice Department says mylan overbilled medicaid by more than a billion dollars, over a decade. Still to come on the newshour we talk to leaders of two cities about the controversy of removing Confederate Monuments. What white house strategist Steve Bannons recent statments reveal about the trump agenda. Making sense of the Retail Industrys transformation. Sreenivasan now, to the fallout from charlottesville, and the spotlight it cast on Confederate Monuments. The president spoke out in their defense today, even as the campaign to clear them from public spaces intensified. Statues of confederate leaders, in baltimore, removed in the night. A monument to confederate soldiers, in durham, north carolina, torn down by protesters monday. Virginia Governor Terry mcauliffe joined in, on cbs this morning. Its time for these monuments to come down, its time for us to move together after what happened in charlottesville. Sreenivasan on twitter, President Trump lamented the loss of Confederate Monuments. Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. He said. And he went on robert e lee, Stonewall Jackson whos next, washington, jefferson . So foolish but in durham, protesters hundreds of people turned out today to show support for the people arrested in monday nights incident. And elsewhere the reality is that it never should have been there and you sreenivasan protesters rallied in tampa, florida, after the local government said residents will have to raise money on their own to remove a Confederate Monument there. The cries for action echoed in congress, with House Minority leader nancy pelosi saying in a statement the confederate statues in the halls of congress have always been reprehensible. A spokesman for Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan said its up to each state to decide whose statues will represent it in the capitol. Back in charlottesville, hundreds gathered for a vigil last night at the university of virginia. Plans for the march were spread by word of mouth. The crowd walked the same route the White Supremacists had taken. Was a tragedy and were here to take back the lawn for this student generation, all the previous, all the future generations of students who walked the lawn. Equality, justice and freedom. Sreenivasan but governor mcauliffe suggested President Trump should stay away from charlottesville. If the president wants to i do not want the president to come here to continue on with the speeches hes given for the last couple of days. Sreenivasan the president , in turn, denied equating white nationalists with counter protesters, and he tweeted that the news media totally misrepresent what i say about hate, bigotry etc. He also dismissed republican senator Lindsey Graham of south carolina, as publicity seeking after graham accused him of stoking tensions. But republican senator bob corker of tennessee went further today. He charged the president has not demonstrated the stability and competence needed for the white house. Sreenivasan President Trump decided to abandon a planned council of advisers on infrastructure. We turn to a closer look as challenges cities faced while trying to deal not only with controversial statutes but backlash that can bring protesters into the streets. We spoke to two people who deal directly with these issues. Jim gray is mayor of lexington, kentucky, tonight the city council is debate hough to handle their Confederate Monuments. We spoke to the mayor before the council meet beg gan and lieutenant ryan lee is the executive officer of the Police Bureau Rapid Response team of portland, oregan where violent protests erupted earlier this summer. Welcome to you both. Jim gray, this is something your city may be facing tune. Its not exactly the same parallel but there are Confederate Monuments youve wanted to move and relocate and theres some tension about that. Thats right, hari, and for more than a year now we have examined this issue, and on saturday with the regrettable and tragic events in charlottes, i made the decision to accelerate the putting before the city council a resolution to relocate these monuments, and thats because it was the right thing to do. It is the right thing to do. The monuments today stand on really what amounts to sacred ground, ground where slaves were once auctioned, were sold into slavery, men, women and children were sold into slavery. So this is the right thing to do to remove and to relocate these statutes in a place where the full context and the full story of the tragedy of the civil war could be shared and shared and taught. Sreenivasan mayor gray, staying with you for a second, how is your Police Department preparing for the possibility that people who want to tear the statue down want to make lexington another example . Our Police Department is disciplined and prepared, but let me tell you about the legal requirements. The law in kentucky requires that these statutes, any movement of these statutes first be put before whats called the kentucky military heritage commission. So within the law today, we are operating within that law. Our police are prepared. We are a peaceful city. We are a city thats a giving and compassionate city, but were also disciplined and prepared. Sreenivasan lieutenant ryan lee, your city faced some very difficult protests. How did you get through them . Its important for us when were approaching these situations to understand that there is an exercise a lawful exercise of First Amendment rights and while i may personally find the content of somebodys speech personally reprehensible, my role as a Police Officer is to facility at the time that lawful and peaceful expression of somebodys First Amendment rights, to try and help navigate for those people who wish to express recallly their free speech to give them a platform for it while at the same time weighing out the governmental interests to keep the peace, maintain law and order and meet the expectations of the police force. Its not an easy, one solution fits all. We reached out to a variety of organizers from all sides of the political spectrum, trying to get them to selfplace, and developing plans in place to keep public order if necessary. Sreenivasan mayor gray, is that what your Police Department is doing . Tell me about your strategy. Sure, well, our police chief has reached out to charlottesville, to those responsible in charlottesville to try to gain Lessons Learned there. Our Police Department is often set up as one of the finest in the country, an example in the country for its discipline, for its preparedness, dealing with crises, dealing with demands routinely. So were prepared. Were reaching out to state and federal and local jurisdictions who may provide help and theyre doing a commendable job of preparing. But as the lieutenant said, this country one of its founding principles is the right to free speech. But when it extends into hatred and violent exregs, thats when we need to be prepared and we are. Sreenivasan mayor gray, where is the threshold . One of the most striking images of charlottesville were the Police Standing back and people fighting right in front of those officers. Get involved when x or y happens . Thats the responsibility of our police chief. The command unit of our police. The lieutenant knows those protocols well. We expect to deal with these issues, should they emerge, we expect and will deal with them responsibly but effectively and in a disciplined way. Sreenivasan lieutenant, looking back at what happened in charlottesville, not asking you to arm chair quarterback, but if this happened in your city, what are the guidelines . What are the strategies . I know there are cas case by cae decisions the officers make but there seem to be different approaches the officers take to cordon off people into different spaces so they wont clash as easily, maybe use bicycles. What do you do. We try to cordon people off as appropriate. We can put in place time and Space Management restrictions. We have to allow for alternative forms of expression. The ability to set opposing groups apart, whether through fencing, through physically locating officers between them, thats an option, its a possibility. What is legally possible from state to state and city to city changes, so some of the things that may be both legally acceptable here in the city of portland and socially acceptable with the expectations of the public may vary from place to place. So the options on the table for charlottesville may not be the same for us. People see it as a dichotomy. They look and see what they think are homogenous groups. This represents one side, this another. But over the years, weve learned there are a variety of likeminded clusters that form out a plot point for a spectrum of opinion. Its recognizing those people in those groups that plot as wanting to carry out a lawful expression of their First Amendment rights, trying to communicate and coordinate with them and trying to get them to outgroup or excise those that really are seeking a violent confrontation. So if the police can address the conduct there and keep it safe for all parties to express free speech. Sreenivasan lieutenant lee, is it more complicated when groups of protester

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