Government is monsieur. Monsieur had been the chief justice of egypts high court. And with morsis deposing, monsieur automatically succeeded him. The president was parliamentary elections six months from now. Early 2014. After these elections, a date will be set for a fresh president ial election. Monosour appointed the Vice President for egypt. Reform leader, mohommed elbaradi, figured ten years ago as head of the iaea, which task was verifying whether iraq possessed wmds, weapons of mass destruction. The agency never found any wmd in iraq after exhausted searches. A familiar face on u. S. Tv during that period. Interim president imminent as he is, does not resolve egypts crisis. Why . Because the powerful islamic Muslim Brotherhood backed morsi. The political, social, and religious membership is outraged. The brotherhood points out that egypt had a democratic election one year ago and that the upshouted of that president election was then and is now morsi. So, now the Egyptian Military staged a cue, the brotherhood says, and unseated morsi. So, egypts agony goes on. Egypt, the home to the Worlds Largest arab population. The u. S. Has been delivering 1. 3 billion in military aid to egypt every year. And president obama had signal he wants the 1. 3 billion to stay in place for egypt. Arab countries are pledging billions of dollars in aid to bolster egypts economy. The united arab, the uae with the loan of 2 billion and a grant of 1 billion. Saudi arabia of 3 billion. And for much needed fuel and an additional 2 billion. Question, is egypt vital to u. S. Interest . Pat buchanan. Who governs egypt is not vital because we would not send american troops, whether it was military or morsi ruling them. We do have National Interest there. They conflict with our democratic ideals. Whatever you say about it, the Muslim Brotherhood played by americas rules. They won the parliament fair and square. Then with americas blessing, the Egyptian Military with american weapons overthrew the elected government of egypt. I mean, we have, america is reviled almost by both sides in this whole conflict. However, the military and the Muslim Brotherhood are the only two organizations that have the power and authority and ability to run egypt. The place is a mess. What the americans should do now, having done what we done is push as hard as we can for the early elections and consider an early exit. Eleanor. Egypt is key in keeping the peace with israel. For starters, israel being a key ally. And an important region in the world. We are not as dependent for oil, but we still need to be a major player there. And the phrase that i latched on to is peoples cue. There were millions of people in the streets. More than 22 Million People signed a petition wanting morsi out of power. Thats more than a quarter of the country. The alternative to the military stepping in would have been rule. They were ready to storm the palace. I see this as a temporary takeover by the military. I think they are saying mostly the right things. The firing obviously, on the morsi protest was very bad. But they need to reach out and include the Muslim Brotherhood in whatever government evolved. Otherwise you drive them under ground, force them to become violent and you will never get a kind of stable inclusive government. I dont see this as a negative step at all. I think this is a step towards an evolving democracy and a very important country. Thats very reassuring. Im glad i changed your mind. I didnt say that. Didnt change my mind, but it is reassuring. Susan. The problem is, they could be on the verge of a civil war. The military firing on people is leading them down a path to a civil war. The United States is invested upwards of 70 billion in this country since the 1940s. It is from the United States. It is important strategically. Their economy is collapsing. They are potentially on the collapse of a civil war. So its scary what is happening right now. Its unclear if they are going to be solid elections that will lead to a durable peace in nine months. Is egypt vital . Yes, egypt is absolutely vital. Let me just say this. While morsi was elected in the democratic way, he wasnt governing in a democratic way. He violated every promise he made to get elected. So he was alienating a lot of people in that country and that is what provoked all of this. The real issue is, morsi led the Muslim Brotherhood, which was a group who are in opposition to every major National Interest in the United States. So in this instance, we were fortunate. I think now we have a chance to work with a different kind of government whom i think will be much more, shall we say, responsive. 50 of the vote, or more than that in the islamists to his right got 25 of the vote. Yes. You have to have the islamist participate. If youre going to have a democracy, participate in many if not all of the governments in the middle east. Yes, but you are saying if they will be democracies. Morsi was not running the country. All of the people who were going to bring in i dont think the u. S. Didnt send the army. I think you are with that. Not initially the white house said they did not want military action and i think thrown him out without american support and getting 1. 5 billion from here . You have no knowledge there was any direct blessing. They would have done that with or without all right. So relinquish. Getting from other countries. I want to know whether the Isreali Embassy is up and flourishing. I dont know if its flourishing. The embassy was attacked. Why . Because lets put it this way, they are not totally friendly to judes in egypt and certainly the muslims. The radical muslims are opposed to not only israel, but jews in general. What are you saying about morsi . They are glad hes gone. Somebody sent me from israel, somebody sent me a cable in which he said, there is a god and thank god he is jewish after this happened. Because from israels point of view, the emergence of morsi and the muslim brother, which would have not have stopped in the country. The presumption is absolutely from the United States. I want to just a moment. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You have been talking about five minutes continuously. I want to know whether the isrealis have drawn some comfort from the High Court Justices now running the country. Yes, i think they think hes a reasonable man. He has a year before this situation settles. Maybe more than a year. Let me put it this way. Its going in a better direction. Exit question. What course of action serves u. S. . Maintaining egypt . Pat buchanan, keep it short. The best course of action would be to maintain military assistance for a while as we phase it out and the isrealis job phase it out, why . The isrealis are maintaining we phase it out because the arab spring is turning into the arab war of all against all. Maintaining our support, which is far less than other countries in that region are giving is very important. Secondly, this President Administration has gotten criticism for standing on the sideline too much when it comes to developments in the middle east. I believe the military would have acted in what i am calling a peoples cue, with or without any kind of blessing from the white house. This was not an obamaled takeover. By no means. Helps provide an economic lifeline to giving this money and eventually help them stave off a civil war. Thats part of the reason that brought this overthrow. The economy isnt doing well. Several weeks ago, i predicted the egyptian economy was going to collapse because they run out of foreign exchange. They had no money to pay for food. So they are heading into a tremendous economic crisis and this billion and a half from the United States will help the military, but they are going to get 11 billion from various arab countries and they would not have gotten that if morsi was in power. So this is going to help egypt maintain itself as a coherent country. So in my judgment, this is the best outcome we could have hoped for. Where did president obama go . He went to cairo . Why . Thats a good question. I ask myself that many, many times. He wanted to speak to the arab world in some way. I think he mentions in his biography that his close personal friend was an egyptian that he met there or about that time. At any rate, he went there within five months after he was elected president and he gave a speech. Was he responsible for the arab spring by reason of the fact he talked to young people there . I dont think he was responsible. The arab spring has been brewing for a long time in many of those countries. So he didnt catalyst it . There may have been more of a catalyst you indicated. What did you say . Mr. Zuckerman. Issue two, snowden still on the lamb. Edward snowden is the 30 yearold information technician who worked in hawaii for hamilton, a military contractor within the National Security agency, the nsa. Snowden was a mathematician who leaked data, incredible amounts of telephone data and internet data. No one continues to elude the u. S. Government, held up at the airport in moscow. He has applied for political asylum in more than two dozen countries. Of these, venezuela, and bolivia say he is welcome. Russian officials are not comfortable with snowden taking up borders at their airport. The head of russias International Affairs committee sent our exit now. Snowden in the form of a treat. Quote, venezuela is waiting for an answer from snowden. This perhaps is his last chance to receive political asylum. Unquote. Question. What is the remedy . Does america need stronger privacy laws . Eleanor clift . I think snowden has forced the discussion on these programs. So he accomplished his mission. I think the side show of him held up in the airport lacking money and trying to meet with human Rights Groups and hanging on to wikileaks is over shadowed what the real purpose of the revelations that he produced. And so at this point, i think even those latin american countries, even venezuela in the wake of chavezs death, may not be willing to take him because they have interest in berting relations with the u. S. And he doesnt have a passport. Unless he wants to sneak into the moscow airport, how does he get through air space . He looks like hes stuck right now. Any indication that russia is changing mind . Is this why snowden skipped town . 12fbi agents with their guns drawn came in. My son opened the door and they pushed him out of the way at gunpoint and they came upstairs to where my wife was getting dressed and i was in the shower and they pointed guns at her and one of the agents came to the shower and pointed the gun at my head and of course, pulled me out of the shower. William spent 40 years at the nsa, the National Security agency, where Edward Snowden also worked. Like snowden, benny blue the when i say whistle of data. Benny registers his forms internally and for seven years, trying to get upper government as illegal and unconstitutional behavior by the nsa. Domestic spying accumulating information and knowledge about the u. S. , the entire u. S. Population. So i thought of that as a Jay Edgar Hoover on super steroids. It wasnt that he had information and knowledge to leverage the congress. You have information and knowledge to leverage everyone, judges included, in the country. So, that is why i got so concerned. The fbi tried to prosecute to leaking to the press. He described, but in the end, he was never charged. Two other respected nsa whistle blowers have also surfaced. A 19 year veteran raised his concerns about the nsa invading u. S. Citizens privacy rate. Drake was indicted under the act. And sentenced to a year of probation. Also, more than 30 years at the nsa where he was awarded the nsa second highest honor. Suspected of leaking to the new york times. Revealing the extent to which the nsa probes the private lives of american citizens. Security was revoked. He and his family were subjected to the embarrassment of a daylong raid of their home and he hasnt had a job in the six years since. To my knowledge, u. S. A. Today broke this part of the story. In july the 7th issue, for those that may be interested. Question, so are these three American Public servants, or are they public traders, do you think . Susan. I think it changes the story. Instead of everybody it changes the story about snowden who is in the news. Hearing about these whistle blowers, you get the picture about why snowden felt like talking to someone and getting it all over the press. Because it wasnt being handled the right way when people were trying to come forward. Do the thing the right way. Look what happened. They had their homes raided. They lost their freedoms. They lost their jobs. The question it raises, whether we are throwing out our liberty for the sake of causing the next terroristic attack. Mort. Let me say, snowden is not a muslim. I want to make that clear. Look, seriously, this is one of the most serious things that happened to the United States because we had intelligence on any number of potential attacks on the United States by common consent, 50 of them, okay . I will say what i said before on this program. If we were in a situation where people were able to, where we were unable to interject those attacks. Every month or every two months, this country would be totally changed. So i think the government has the right to do what they think is necessary and appropriate under these circumstances to try and protect this country from those kind of attacks. Totally changed. That is the word. Are we going to be totally changed because of our loss of privacy . The point where you question how much its worth when it comes to fighting terrorism. Let me get in there. Thats not what the issue is. Im not saying it isnt an issue. But the issue is going to be nothing if we have a series of terrorist attacks in the United States. Mort, the United States isnt going to restrict the national agency. I dont think it is right to leak things because we have a congress of the United States. We have rules and regulations. But i do respect the fact that they face the music. They go out, they stayed right in the country and said what the government is doing is wrong and they took it. Snowden who runs off, he is getting what he deserves. I hope he stays in that airport. Excuse me, and reading about these three gentleman, they did have a vested interest here in a sense that they had developed a Program Within the nsa, at least two of them had. They believe could have averted the 9 11 attacks. The head of the agency, tom haden, at the time ignored it and came up with another, much more extensive program. And so they had, they were really angry that they thought their work was being ignored. They went to congress. They did all the right things, but they are enjoying their freedom now. I think they have a consulting company. I think you have it wrong. At least one of those three. And i think he is selling clothes for some department store. They had paid a price. Probably not nearly as much as what mr. Snowden found to pay. They know the system thoroughly and experienced what snowden has experienced, or vice versa. They have a crisis of conscious as to what to do and they did what they thought was right and they still are a victim. They took the consequences, which is what they should do. Do i have a right as a white house aid to walk out with secret information and give it out because i dont like what the president is doing . No. Well, maybe it depends what the president is doing. The president doing something wrong, i should take the consequences when i walk out and say heres what is going on. I think its wrong. You know, hollywood writer and director writing in the Financial Times this week, says obamas domestic surveillance lays the foundation for a future distopia. You know what a distopia is . Ill leave you to define it. The opposite of the utopia. Is obama facing a revolt from the left right now . You follow me . I dont think so. Very minor. A lot of people had faith and confidence and belief. The idealistic obamaites a losing their idealism. Not on this issue. A lot of young people think, whats the big deal . All of this stuff should be out. I disagree. People talking about this and pretty much making a laughing stock of the president. A big deal for young people. I mean, this privacy stuff with libertarians. He, dis appointed for what he was on. Current issue of the london review of books. Right. It is marvelous writing and he takes the view that what is happening is very dangerous. Issue three. U. S. , china trade talks. High level meetings between the u. S. And chinese. The u. S. , china strategic conference with secretary of state, john kerry, and jack speaking for the u. S. The hot button talk of chinas currency. Which is why they consider it to be under valued was front and center of the discussion. Also, Vice President joe biden participated. The next step china needs to take for its own economy, having to be in the interest of the United States as well. Your own plans call for the kind of changes that take place that are difficult, like here. If they do, they will benefit us both, including Free Exchange rates, shifting to a consumption led economy, enforcing Property Rights and renewed innovation. Did this fifth u. S. China dialogue produce any significant breakthrough . Mort zuckerman. I dont think so. I think its helpful. It will be a process. It wont happen in any one great moment. The dialogue between the United States and china on economic matters have dramatically imp