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Dornstein i know you guys know that i had a brother, but you probably havent heard me say that much about him. Instead, he wound up on flight 103. Dornstein maybe you could show up in libya, and maybe it would be possible to get an answer for once. All these years later, the case is still open. Dornstein jesus, look at this room. To be frank, 99 of them are gone. You would get a lot of information out of mr. Bollier . Bollier. Hes located in zurich. Zurich. The truth has to come out about pan am 103. Dornstein ive often tried to imagine what really happened to flight 103 on the night of the bombing. The u. S. Government wanted to know as well, so in the 1990s, they put a lockerbiestyle bomb on board this wide body jet, then watched what happened. It took just one pound of semtex plastic explosive to reduce one of the worlds most sophisticated passenger jets to hundreds of thousands of pieces. And somewhere in all of this, i cant help but imagine, were the 259 people onboard, like my brother. Hello . Yeah, friday maybe. I have a vcr. But i mean, if you wanna go see itwe can go see it. For years, i kept thinking i was seeing him on the street in new york. I just didnt believe he was dead. And i still sometimes think im going to see david. I have not, still to this day, completely accepted that the guy is gone. Imagining him dead, because he was so very alive, is pretty impossible. Dornstein david and the other passengers on flight 103 fell six miles to the ground, landing in and around the town of lockerbie. In the ruins of their homes, they searched for the bodies of the aircrafts passengers. Dornstein many bodies had to be taken down from rooftops. Some, like my brother, wouldnt be found for days. Donna the Border Collie knows every inch and every boulder of the crash sites. She has detected human remains as deep as fourfootsix under the rubble. Dornstein meanwhile, as the search for victims continued, the police focused hard on finding evidence of who did it. The investigation has turned into a major militarystyle operation with troops, police, and volunteers scouring far more territory than anybodyri thought would be necessary only a day ago. People tend to forget that we actually investigated 845 square miles of that part of scotland. All day, hundreds of police and soldiers have been searching the hills outside the town. Every single field,iver was searched, and nobody was allowed to walk across that field unless he was in a line. And as soon as they saw something, the whole line stopped. Now, you can imagine how long that took. After months of searching through the debris, the lockerbie investigators had the breakthrough theyd been hoping for. They found a small fragment of the Circuit Board from the electronic timer that had triggered the explosion aboard pan am 103. That fragment was recovered by our lads up a tree 25 miles away from lockerbie. It was inside a shirt collar. It was an amazing piece of evidence that you should recover something as small as that. Dornstein the original investigation came down, in many ways, to this one small piece of physical evidence that fragment of Circuit Board found outside lockerbie that was matched to the timer that blew up the bombt it was said to have been made by a Small Company in switzerland run by a man named Edwin Bollier. But who was he . And how exactly was bollier related to the men id been tracking in libya with my friend suliman . It took a while before we met again. And when you bring me up to speed about this whole thing, theres a lot more that youve learned since weve last talked. Dornstein right. So remember we met with souad . Yeah. Dornstein and she was coming to grips with the fact that her husband might have been involved in the bombing. And her brother yk said, you know, the truth must come out. Yeah. Dornstein but then he said at the end, he said, you need to go to zurich, switzerland. He said, theres a man there, and his name is bollier. So i decided to make contact with bollier. He was still in the same office in zurich. Same place . Dornstein yeah, same place. Same place where the timer had been made that they say had blown up flight 103. Wow. Dornstein yeah. It had been just over a year since i first set off to libya in search of answers. But now i was convinced that a key piece of the story lay here in zurich, where investigators traced the custombuilt timer that was so critical to the lockerbie plot. At some point, this timer was fit into the lockerbie bomb, so it would blow up, at least in theory, exactly when the terrorists desired. Edwin bollier is said to have supplied the timer which set off the lockerbie explosion. Dornstein investigators first came here to question Edwin Bollier about his timers back in late 1990. They showed him a photograph of the fragment theyd found near lockerbie, and bollier identified it as a piece of a timer hed sold to the Libyan Military a few years earlier. Over the years, however, hes changed his story. He now maintains that the timer they say blew up flight 103 was not actually one of those he sold to libya. Edwin bollier. Dornstein everything you know about bollier, how would you characterize his involvement . He was deeply involved with the libyans. Very, very close. The libyans were operational in zurich, and were getting supplied with timing devices by mr. Bollier. Okay. And he never told the truth, and he used a lot of angles to sidestep it as well. The scottish officials were, in fact, considering him as someone who could be possibly charged. Its baffled me for some 20 years now, what he was really. What did he really know . If you came right down to it, you know, could we prove that he was in tripoli and they said, you know, hey, edwin, we want to blow up an airplane and we want to fit this timer into this radio and make sure we dont blow ourselves up in the process of doing it. Can you help us . And we dont have a witness that could say that. Dornstein i told Edwin Bollier that my brother was on flight 103 and that i was searching for the truth. And after an initial meeting, bollier agreed to film with me. Hello, how are you . Dornstein how are you . Hed told so many different versions of his story over the years, i wanted to know what hed say facetoface. People say, youre going to speak with Edwin Bollier. Yeah, hes not trustworthy, or hes hiding something. He was involved. He was helping the libyans. Yes. Dornstein whats your response to them . Ill show you. Dornstein bollier insists that hes simply a contractor who sold electronics to the Libyan Military, but i wanted to walk through the story with him step by step. Dornstein we began with the fact that the libyan businessman, badri hassan, had rented office space from bollier the year before the bombing. Badris partner in the Zurich Office was Abdel Basset Al megrahi, the man who would later be convicted for the lockerbie bombing. Abdel basset al megrahi, what was he like as a person . What was his character . Was he. Dornstein did you believe that he was involved in the bombing of flight 103 . No, no, no, no. Dornstein bollier says badri and megrahi were rarely in the Zurich Office. But then, just a few weeks before the bombing, badri came to bollier with a rush order for timers. Dornstein the original order for these timers came three years earlier, bollier explained. Dornstein bollier hoped for a contract to make more than 1,000 of these timers, and he said he delivered 20 prototypes to the Libyan Military. Dornstein but the two men who originally ordered these timers, ezzedine hinshiri and said rashid, were not regular military officers. They were qaddafi innercircle members and intelligence officials. And it was badri hassan, a civilian with ties to the inner circle, who would come to bollier about the timers just before lockerbie. Bollier insists that he had no idea the reason behind badris rush order. When badri ordered these timers, he wanted them right away. Did he say why it was such a rush all of a sudden . Sh because the original order was three years earlier. No. Dornstein so youre saying they put an order in 1985. Its supposed to be for 1,500. You never hear about it, youre always checking on it, what about the order . Dornstein then all of a sudden, three years later. Curious, curious. Dornstein i guess what i wanted to know, because youve had a lot of business with the libyans, anything about the way they ordered these timers that made you think that they were using them for bombs . For terrorism . Was there anything that seemed unusual . Dornstein bollier says he was out of stock of the mst13 timers that the libyans had rushordered, so he delivered some knockoff timers, which they rejected. In the end, though, it didnt matter. The lockerbie judges concluded that one of the original timers supplied by bollier to the libyans years earlier had been used to blow up flight 103. Clearly, he was making and developing timing devices for bombs. Undoubtedly, bollier didnt care what they were used for as long as he could get the money. He didnt have any conscience whatsoever. Hes tied to it by providing the timers. And i think, you know, the question is, tied to it in such a way that he would become criminally culpable in it . And there, i think you have to go on the assumption that that might be the case, and youre going to look for any evidence that that might be the case, but i dont think any real evidence that it was ever. That that was the case ever really turned up. The scots and the u. S. Government had a difference of opinion about bollier. The scots, Stuart Henderson will tell you, we looked at bollier 100 as a suspect. I considered him a possible suspect, but i thought he was probably. I could not envision someone in the west thats a businessman intentionally blowing up a plane. Now, accidentally giving the things to the libyans or whomever at that time to do this, thats possible. But i could not envision somebody from the west being in cahoots with the libyans or anybody else to blow up a plane. I found that hard to believe. Dornstein at the time the fbi first encountered Edwin Bollier, they didnt fully understand his long relationship with the libyans. It all began in the mid1970s, when bollier said he started supplying the libyans with broadcasting equipment, police radios, fax machines. But by the early 1980s, the cia began to suspect that he was supplying the libyans with much more. The details come from this onceclassified cia technical report. It explains that in 1984, four years before lockerbie, the cia uncovered briefcase bombs in the hands of libyan operatives in north africa. Semtex explosive inside the suitcase was detonated with a custommade firing device using motorola pagers. And these pagers were ultimately traced back to mebo and Edwin Bollier. Theres a whole cia report on these devices. Mmhmm. Dornstein they find a briefcase, and semtex. Mmhmm. Dornstein and so theyre analyzing this whole thing. This was in 84. Dornstein right, i mean, if you had known this guy seems to be supplying the libyans with devices to do bad things, would that have colored your dealings with him at all . Yeah, it would have certainly given me a little bit different look at who this guy is and what he might be up to. Dornstein well, actually, so this report makes clear that the cia, i think, through the swiss police, told him knock it off about the pagers back in 1984. Yeah, it says that he was contacted by the swiss police about those pagers. Dornstein so he does seem to have an awareness at some point that the stuff hes making is being used for terrorism. Oh, yeah, i think anybody who deals with the libyans in electronic weapons and things knows that theyre probably being used at some point in time, in some way, for terrorism. Dornstein right. But did he give them these timers and other equipment with the intent to blow up airplanes . Proving that is pretty damn hard to do. Dornstein so just what did Edwin Bollier know about the timing devices he was supplying to the qaddafi regime . Not long after bollier first delivered these timers to the libyans, Police Seized one of them among a cache of weapons in the west african nation of togo. Then, just ten months before lockerbie, the cia learned about another of bolliers timers. It was found in the hands of libyan operatives attempting to bomb targets in senegal. The cia had written detailed reports on the togo and senegal timers, linking them both back to Edwin Bollier. But all of this took on new significance in june of 1990, when lockerbie investigators came to them with the Circuit Board fragment theyd found at the crash site. The cia produces photographs of what we call the senegal timer after two libyan intelligence operatives traveling with pistols with silencers, semtex, blasting caps, and this timer were arrested by the senegalese government. And it was sort of like, if we can establish that mebo made the senegal device, they probably made the togo timer as well. So they take the thing apart, and on one of the Circuit Boards within the timer, they find something thats scratched out that was determined to say mebo. Dornstein i mean, did you used to write mebo on the Circuit Boards . Yes, all the pc boards have mebo, mebo. Dornstein huh. Why this is scratched here, i dont know. Dornstein well, they say. But you can read mebo, its clear. Dornstein right. But i guess what they would say is that if the libyans were using your timers for terrorism, they wanted to scratch it out so no one would figure it out. I dont know, but, uh, that they scratched this. This is curious. Dornstein i mean, just your relationship with libya. You know, you gave them radio equipment, and you had a long relationship with them, and then suddenly, you find that your timers are showing up in the hands of, you know, libyan agents in togo or senegal, and theyre using your timer for terrorist purposes. I mean, how did you feel about that . The feeling was not good. And so its clear that we stop everything immediately with such things, with timers and commando cases. We have stopped everything. But i told also. Dornstein it wasnt clear to me when bollier says he stopped supplying electronics to libya, or why. And he still maintains that he was only made aware of the togo and senegal operations much later. But at the lockerbie trial, it emerged that bollier was actually in tripoli during the week before the senegal operation. When asked about the purpose of this visit and whether it had anything to do with his timers, bollier replied that he couldnt remember. Bollier did remember another trip to libya that year. He told the fbi that he was in tripoli that december, just before what turned out to t a major operation lockerbie. He said he ended up at Abdel Basset Al megrahis office just two nights before the bombing. It was here, he said, that he witnessed a meeting. Ill show you. Dornstein bollier still recalled that night, and even drew me the layout of megrahis office. Here, i think, was the room of abdel basset with doors, and they have the meeting here. Dornstein but what was this meeting at the office of the man later convicted for ther bombing . This scene here that you just sketched, with the meeting and waiting for megrahi on that evening so close to lockerbie. All this, yeah. Dornstein the prosecution at the trial, they made this sound like the libyans were planning lockerbie in this room here right across from you that night. They say this, yes. Dornstein do you think thats what was going on in there . No, no. Dornstein the only problem with bolliers current denial is that it once again contradicts what he said years ago, when he initially spoke with investigators. At that time, he made clear that this meeting before lockerbie involved thugs and some highranking qaddafi officials. And when asked about the purpose of the meeting, bollier told the fbi that this meeting could have been part of the preparations for the bombing of flight 103. To try to sort out the truth from lie with Edwin Bollier, how do you approach that . With a large bottle of aspirin. Um, you cannot reconcile all of his statements. He was telling the truthel initially, but hes lying now. I dont know what goes on in his mind. I mean, part of me says, at a minimum, he recognized that he facilitated this unspeakable act, if by no other means than supplying this timer. Postbombing, you wonder whether he says to himself, my god, i am at least morally responsible for this horrible crime. But then, i think bolliers selfpreservation thing kicks in, and he cant accept that responsibility. Dornstein over and over, i would ask former lockerbie officials about bollier. He was a suspicious character for sure, theyd say, but there was no proof he knew the true purpose of his timers, and no witnesses against him. Initably, the discussion would land at one more unusual piece of the bollier story a letter that bollier secretly passed to the cia just a few weeks after the bombing. In the letter, bollier pretended to be a libyan with information about lockerbie. This was unusual for many reasons, not least because almost no one close to the investigation suspected libya for the bombing at the time bollier typed this. In january of 1989, some unknown businessman from europe came to the u. S. Embassy in vienna, and he left a letter for the ambassador. In the letter, he blames l