captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how. >> figuring out which one we wanted to do is there is it october at all or something else? >> it's more about stealth and help. >> rose: what is the object lesson here? gnificance of the moment.. >> rose: this was week donald trump and hillary clinton the met in their first presidential debate. and the chicago cubs won their 100th game for first time since 1935. and we're celebrating a quarter century on public television. here are some of the sights and sounds of the past 25 years. welcome to our first broadcast. welcome to our broadcast. welcome to the program. tonight part two-- ♪ ♪ i'm-- >> what could have happened to me had i stayed in the street? >> rose: so far, so good. >> you talkin to me. >> i was a young actor, just studying. >> rose: happiest moltes of your life spent on the basketball court? i love animals, as many people know. i'm going to kill you, homer. rousseau dead. ♪ was in the spring ♪ >> rose: you recognized the consequences for you if there is a strike. we're just so predictable aren't we? we're so obvious. aren't we? it humbled you? >> oh, i used to really think a lot of myself. hands, touching hands ♪ >> rose: there is much anticipation you will speak about the threat of isis. >> oh, i hit it too hard. >> all right! ♪ touching me, touching you >> rose: tell me what you think of the building. overwhelmed ♪ you know i can be found that's all i can do. ♪ sittin' home all alone at least please telephone." my message to the new york suppress ♪ don't be cruel i'm too horse. >> the that's the way it works, charlie. are you voting for hillary, aren't you? >> people haven't seen me going into a corner and putting my thumb in my mouth saying, "i give up." >> rose: you need a vice presidential candidate. >> i do. are you interested? >> art is a way of expressing emotion, communicating emotion. >> rose: what did you think of that answer? >> i thought it was terrible. >> i thought the valueave good education is you can take more risks. >> rose: they can't take your education away from me. >>umly, if i need a job and have to pay the bills i'll be able to get one. >> i want to thank you about show you did about the tv series nine years ago. i thought it was the best kind of analysis of what the the show was. >> rose: you suit up ever? >> oh, yeah, they count on me. >> this is charlie rose. >> charlie rose, ladies and gentlemen. ♪ ♪ >> rose: we begin this week overseas with america focused on the presidential election, the syrian government and russian airpower began a major push against rebel positions in aleppo. government forces reached the city's center for the first time, and arial bombardments have been the heaviest sense the civil war began. what comes next? until last year, philip gordon was the national security council coordinator for the the middle east. and clarissa ward say foreign correspondent for cnn. >> in the last week, we are seeing quite clearly that things on ground in eastern aleppo, the rebel-held part of the city, are, indeed, worse, and that's primarily because the exprugz syrian air forces have started to use what appear to be bunker-buster bombs. this is a new low, even by their standards. previously we had seen them using cluster bombs, those homemade barrel bombs, also incendiary devices. this is first time we are hearing about bunker-buster bombs and, of course, the casualties are high as a result, more than 200 people dead in less tan a week, hundreds more injured. half of the carbuls, according to save the the children, are in fact minorities. and all of this is happening against the backdrop of a siege that has been ongoing for months. there is very little left in the marketplaces, just a few vegetables, nothing left in the stores, no gasoline to get around, very little diesel to power generators because, of course, there's no electricity. so the situation is even worse than it was a week ago. and certainly no end in sight, charlie. >> rose: philip, it reminds people of dresden. >> it reminds people of dresden, sarajevo, groff me, and the worst atrocities we've seen for 70 years. >> rose: i don't want to be naive, but how can world stand by and let this happen? >> the world's conscience should be shocked by what's happening in aleppo. the problem is nobody has-- the not even a simple alternative to it, but even perhaps a viable one. so, you know, you can sit there and say, "we can't let it happen, "but them you start walking through, and, you know, you yourself in the situation of decision makers, okay," what do we co?" if answer is, "we respond with equal force. we use our own airstrikes." we've seen this sort of thing before, escalation, if it leads to counter-escalation by them, then could actually get worse. then it's not aleppo, it's iraq or other -- >> it could get worse in aleppo. it cowl get worse in other cities that are held by rebels? >> absolutely. aleppo has been the the big prize. but aleppo is just one of the battleground cities are still at stake, and if this goes on, ung we'll see more sieges and more refugees and more killing. >> rose: so there's nothing to stop the airstrikes. >> reason the administration and the world, frankly, put so much hope in the cease-fire is, frankly, because of the dearth of alternatives. the main alternative to that is some counter-escalation. many countries have been supporting opposition for five years, with arms to try to put pressure on the syrian government and the russians and urain crans to come to table and have a negotiated solution. we've seen response to that. it's just more and more force. >> i agree wholeheartedly about what you said of the dangers of esk lakes, but the air strikes have got to stop because as long as the air strikes go on, you can be sure what you are seeing happening on ground in northern syria is generation of one of the most dangerous incubators for terrorism and extremism that we have ever seen. and as long as we consider the destruction or defeat of isis to be a major national security priority for the u.s., we cannot continue to ignore, surely what, is happening with syrian civil war because the two are inextricable linkedded. one is providing-- is the giant, festering wound, if you like, that is infecting rest of the body. and it promises or threatens to go away beyond the borders of just syria. these aren't las vegas rules here. what happens in syria, doesn't stay in syria. >> rose: but is there a priority to do something about assad right now? >> i don't know that it's the priority. i don't think anyone should believe that there is a light option that resolves this problem. we also mentioned . >> rose: there's no easy solution and no light footprint solution. >> no light footprint solution. people want to believe just a coup of air strikes, sometimes you read in the paper a recommendation, let's hit airfields or helicopters. and where that possibly ends is an escalation where we have to shoot russian planes and violently over throw the assad regime. that's how most of these things end. >> rose: the collapse of the cease-fire had syria is only one of the developments in the middle east this week. on wednesday, pentagon announced that 600 more american troops are headed to iraq to support effort to reattack the city of mosul. david petraeus is the former director of the c.i.a. and commanded u.s. troops in iraq during the 2007 and 2008 surge. >> i think there's no question that we are going to defeat the islamic state, and mosul, and, indeed, throughout iraq. >> rose: including -- >> the real-- the real issue, actually, is post-islamic state governance in mosul, an area where i was privileged to serve first year as the commander of the 101st, a division. this is the most commission tereason. many kurds, christians, yazidis, and many have grievances against each other. and there are even rivalries within different ethnic and sectarian groups. it is very, very complex, and, frankly, it's going to be far more changing than at this moment defeating the islamic state. it will be a tough fight, city battles. isis is dug in. it has tunnels and improvised explosive devices but there is no question it will be defee displd there is an axiom, i assume, of military strategy that says it's one thing to push the enemy back. it's another thing to hold the territory. >> that's exactly right. and in fact a number of us have said, "don't clear until you know how you're going to hold." that is very much operative here, except they would add don't clear until you know how you're going to hold and dporch. that's real issue here. and govern. that's there are a lot of conflicting objectives, desires, and grievances that are going to make what very, very difficult. i know that the the president's special envoy, brett mcgirk, is very seized with this, as is new ambassador to iraq from the united states. they're working it hard. meetings up in iraqi kurdistan, and erbil, very near to mosul, where a lot of the different leaders are huddling on determine what follows islamic state control of mosul. but, again, there's a the lot of conflicting objectives here. >> rose: they're grouping now for retaking of mosul. they're to go things-- everybody knows this battle is coming. >> yes. there is a base being reestablished up there. it's called kiaro wef airfield, a huge sort of strategic-level airfield that housed one of our brigade combat teams and probably 80 or 100 helicopters when 101st, a division was deployed in na, in o province. that's a very important base to project a lot of different power, undoubtedly manned aircraft, attack helicopters, perhaps some long shooters from the ground and so forth. so that's another very important element. it is a huge base, though, and it requires enormous force protection if you're going to put a lot of vulnerable american assets and coalition assets on the ground. so it's interesting now that we're approaching 6,000, the count that i've seen as an estimate of what we may end up on the ground. i very much support that. the paradox s, of course, that we have them there without the the status of forces agreement that prevented us from keeping 10,000 troops on the ground when we pulled them out before. >> rose: election is 38 days away. the presidential candidateses have their first debate behind it them. and early voting has already started in 10 states. here with the latest in politics and the race for white house is politicos mike allen. let me begin with where we are right now had this race. we don't have polls yet-- or perhaps we do and perhaps you know and i'd be thrilled to know-- after the debate, is there a repab poll that says this is how we factor in what happened in that debate? >> there is. polls show that hillary clinton was the clear winner. but there's one person in the the world, probe, who doesn't believe that, and that's donald trump. and i talk to people close to him. he really believes that he won that debate. and that is a little worrisome to the people around him who are trying to get hip ready for the next one. >> rose: so what are they going to do to prepare him for the next debate? >> well, charlie, what they're trying to do is get him if a place where he can listen. he's never going to do a formal at-the-podium ca debate. he is who he is. they're going to try to get him into a relacked setting where they are going to talk him through things you can say, hingz you shouldn't say. but, charlie, this morning, the tweet storm from donald trump -- >> what happened? >> okay, so you're going to love this. very early this morning, when donald trumdonald trump @realdop da bunch of tweets, including about the former miss universe, and the media, to the the surprise, to the the dismay, charlie-- i can tell you-- to the the people around him, continuing to go after misuniverse. if there ever a losing argument-- somebody said to me if you want to think about an issue that united states women, it's weight. and he sort of grabbed the third rail, taking an issue that's, like one of the unattractive possible things he could say ask double and triple down. i was just talking to somebody before i came in who said those tweets were a "screw you "to anybody around him trying to tell him to do something different. >> rose: can the i'll do what i want to do." >> exactly. "i'm going to do it this way." >> rose: he can't resist, and he got more in trouble with what he said with respect to miss universe, suggesting there was some tape somewhere or something like that. >> charlie, looking ahead, job one for trump is to do better with women, and his campaign had been focused on that before. i think they realize now they'd taken their victory laps a little too soon about idea tathey could get trump on message. he'd had so many good weeks and the people around him were encouraged and -- >> and the polls showed it. >> that's right. and they said, until now, it's been abstract. we've been telling him, be good," but he's like, "i got here by being myself. i'm not going to change." but he was able to see real movement in those polls after election day. and then tuesday night in farmville, virginia, we're going to see the the two vice presidential candidates, the undercard, neither one of them with a flamboyant style. somebody said this debate is going to be look a mayonnaise sandwich. but what we're going to see there is the dporching choice that each of these candidates made, the most important single decision a candidate makes. and with mike pence, governor of indiana, former house republican leader. donald trump made one of most reassuring decisions -- >> mike pence would be exhibit one. >> no question about it. >> rose: but then there is tim kaine, who has been mayor. >> very popular mayor of richard mond, governor -- >> and now vice presidential nominee. never lost an election gee, no, and important thing, also, very popular in the red parts of virginia. so tim kaines has the potential cross-over appeal that hillary clinton never will, comfortable talking about his faith. has the great story of his peace corps work afterigration. so he's a chance for her to reach out in a way that she can't herself. and tim kaine of these four candidates, of these four nominees, the one who unquestionably is having most fun. >> rose: as week ended, so did the 12-year flight of the rosetta. it was the first spacecraft on successfully orbit a comet, and early friday morning it sent one last batch of images, and it landed on that comet and powered down. joining me now from washington, rachel felledman of the "washington post." also in washington, dr. michelle foller of nasa. and here in new york, daniela hernandez of the" journal. welcome one and all. and i must say it's so good to have three women here to talk about science and i look forward to it because this is such a great story. >> it's super exciting. >> rose: i let me begin with there thaller. tell us about rosetta and what did we learn from it? >> comments are exciting. people know they're sort of large balls of ice and rock but i think people don't understand how scientifically valuable they are. they're actually time capsules. they're bit of the plannies that were never made into anything larger. so when our solar system was forming billions of years ago, there were these little bits left over and they became either comets or asteroids. so when you sample a comet you have a chance of seeing what the solar system was like billions of years ago, where our own chemistry came from. sort of the whole history of where we are. amazing thing to me about rosetta, i mean, there was the beauty of the emangs that were returned. but we got a chance, for example, to show the water in our bodies is more like the water we find in asteroids than comets. we're piecing together story of the orgen of life. >> rose: what's most surprising about this, then? >> it was something that came to be after many, many years of dreaming, that something like this could happen, the idea for this mission goes pack to the 1970s. it wasn't approved until the 1990s. and then it finally took off in 2004. and it springs all this imagination forth. we are now trying to land and mine astroadside for business purposes, and this sort of gives us clues as to how we can go about doing that. as dr. thaler said, data that came back is really interesting and beautiful. >> rose: rachel feldman, what do you love. this story? >> oh, i love a lot. this story. you know, i've been following it since orbiter started on orbit the comet a coup of years ago. one of the things i love. end of the rosetta mission tsounds like maybe a waste of a billion-dollar spacecraft to crash it into a comet but it's actually the perfect way to end the mission. the comet is on outward leg of its orbit, so as the spacecraft got farther away it would have lost the sunlight it needed to power its system. so instead watching it slowly die or hoping five years from now they would be able to wake it up back up again, they decided to send it on this final nosedive into a particularly interesting part of the comet. the data they got from the crash landing today will contribute to the body of knowledge we have about this comet, and comets in general. so it's just this really awesome way to send off a really successful mission. >> rose: couplary now, can which is on i.f.c., has just begun its second season. series parodies notable documentary films like "the thin blue line" "nanuc of the north" and great gardens." the critic for new york magazine spoke with executive producer seth myers and the two stars of the series, bill hader and fred armarmston. >> this began from a sketch we worked on, on "s.n.l., "history of punk, which was on last seen. fred playinged one punk rocker a, and shot everything specific. everything looked like it came from the right era. and it was really fun. and it was just a five-minute sketch. but afterwards i remember bill saying that would be kind of show he would upon to do. and i think all of us-- >> we're talking about possibly doing something, you know. we knew we were leaving and we were like, "oh, what's a thing we could do?" ask andrew singer, who was a producer on our show and produced "portlandia "and said if you have an idea i'm sure we could take it to i.f.crched, "portlandia "has done so well and we have a good relationship with them. we did our last show on "s.n.l." and a week later the three of us were in with i.f.c., saying yeah, it's a straight do you meanary parody show. i think any other place they would have said, "no thanks." but they were so-- they were so on board with it and loved it and just said, be great sm of. >> i think the the very pact they had already signed off on a show that was specifically about portland. they then had the confidence that the same sort of creative mindset would be able to make something what does not sound look a hot sell. >> no, no. >> hyper-specific do you meanary. >> it is hyper-specific. the it's almost what i would call a method parody, where you're really rieg to become the thing. you're poking fun at it but you're mainly affectionate towards it. >> a movie eye remember early on talking to reese and alex and zelig, and that film, a woody allen movie where you saw that, and i just remember going-- or even his other ones "take the the money and run," even though they were insane, you could tell he loved movies and it was like, no, if you do it exactly rye, if you get the parody and make it look just like one those of thengz, it's somehow funnier. >> yes. >> you know, because it subverts your relationship to the the movie and to watching documentaries. it makes it look like you're watching thing. it feels like an important movie except there's one little thing off from it. ♪ ♪ >> one of the things i love about this particular episode is that it's a spoof of a very specific thing, but then as in so many episodes of "documentary now" something else happens to it. something else happens that this character canuk, isn't what they're asking him to pretend to be. so then it becomes an acting challenge-- i almost hesitate to use that word-- as well as just goofing around. this is-- >> it's not a challenge at all because it's silent. and so it's-- everything is just one shot. it was actually very easy because it's just-- the changes all happen in the writing, which, by the the way, the whole thing was written by seth myers. that's all him. >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead: sunday is final day of major league baseball's regular season. monday iraq's national holiday. ed it is night of the vice presidential debate at virginia's longwood university. wednesday is the day the nobel prize in chemistry is announced. thursday is the day prince's paisley park home opens to the public. friday is 15th anniversary of the invasion of afghanistan. saturday is the day scaiing rink opens at new york's rockefeller center. and here is what's new per your weekend. van morrison has a new album out called "keep me singing." ♪ for tomorrow just can't wait ♪ >> rose: the austin city limits music festival get under way in austin, texas. and mark wahlberg, kurt russell, and kate hudson star in the disaster thriller, "deepwater horizon." >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. before we go, we want to note the passing of the last of israel's founding fathers. shimon peres died wednesday at the age of 93. he served in numerous israeli governments, in numerous positions, including president and prime minister. it was as foreign menster what he shared the nobel peace prize with yasser arafat for ther work on the oslo accords. he was guest at my table many, many times. in twen 11, we talked of his legacy and that is where we'll leave thu evening. i'm charlie rose. we'll see you next time. >> each of us has a given time to contribute, contribute and there will be an end to the contribution because there will be an end to your life. don't waste it. >> rose: so what do you hope the epitaph say? >> i don't care. for me, if somebody will say that they saved the life of one child, it will be the greatest compliment i hope to be remembered. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> rose: welcome to the program. we begin this evening with a dramatic story of space exploration, the rosetta spacecraft ended its ten-year mission by landing on top of the comet it was exploring. we talked to rachel feltman, dr. michelle thaller and daniela hernandez. >> people know they're large balls of ice and rock but they don't realize how valuable they are. they are time capsules, bits of planets that were never made into anything larger. when our solar system were formed, they were bits left over. when you examine them, you see where our whole chemistry came from and our history of where we

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