Lot of horror to it. Theres a little more readiness and suspiciousness with the main character than in other horror movies. Charlie Jonathan Karl and jordan peele when we continue. Funding by charlie rose is funded by the following rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by the following and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Charlie we begin this evening with a look at President Trumps first trip abroad. It comes after the report that President Trump leaked information to russians and he responded to the allegation. I never mentioned the word or the name israel. Never mentioned it. End of conversation. Never mentioned the world israel. Charlie tomorrow President Trump will meet with the palestinian president abbas. Were joined now by jerusalem with Jonathan Karl at a very late hour. Thank you for joining us. Ill start with the question, it seems like a remarkable trip to me because it seems to different from the trump campaign. Its an incredibly ambitious trip and the mere fact he started in saudi arabia and not just in saudi arabia the birth place of islam but at a conference where he was surrounded by the leaders of more than 50 muslim nations. An entirely different image for donald trump. I dont think any of us would have predicted that in the campaign when he was declaring islam hates us and proposing a total and complete ban on all muslims coming to the United States. Including by the way, all the people at that event. A very different image of donald trump and the tone was different he didnt utter the words radical islamic terrorism. He doesnt say that. It was a message of cooperation and its more like a message wed heard from george w. Bush after 9 11 or in some ways barack obama. Charlie what happened to change his mind . Governing . I think governing is the big thing. And i think this trip you see the mark of h. R. Mcmaster his National Security adviser who advised him from the moment he took the job to do away with the phrase radical islamic terrorism. And it can come back quickly. Jered kushner a big architect of the trip. He saw a big moment with United States and israel share and israels asia neighbors share an enemy, iran. A unique moment where the president found he had quite common cause with the leaders of saudi arabia and americas traditional gulf allies who thought under barack obama the United States had turned too much towards iran and saw a change in donald trump for all the antimuslim rhetoric. What they were hearing was rhetoric that was antiiran. Rhetoric that suggested the United States would steer in a different diction from obama. Charlie it seems from sitting here in new york city the president said to all of those gulf and arab allies and muslim countries said to them, look, i need your help to fight terrorism and you need to do this because its in your interest and not against your fate. I think he called them criminals in worse and in order to do that ill give you tools to do that. Ill support your idea for isolating iran. A kind of bargain took place there. I think thats exactly right. And the image of that meeting in riyadh the one where the president gave his big speech, this was 50 plus nation. Basically the full islamic world, arab, african, asian. More than 50 nations invited and attending and the only not there were irans aly ally and the message with us isolating iran. It was significant air force one traveled directly from riyadh to tel aviv. Its the first known flight thats done that because of course there are no diplomatic relations whatsoever between saudi arabia and israel. In fact the saudis dont allow planes going to israel to fly over their air space. I was on the press plane not on air force one. We had to fly to cyprus to go to israel so there were some symbolism going right over their air space and you hear that talking to asia arab leaders. They have no beef with israel. Their concern is to a certain extent to isis and the kind of radical extremism isis represents. Thats their concern. Its not israel right now. Charlie but is there hope in this and well talk about whats happened since you got to jerusalem, but is there hope if he can get the asia ab count arab countries on the same side they can cooperate to make progress in a possible agreement between israel and the palestinians. Thats explicitly the hope you hear from white house officials. Theyre hope is this provides momentum to the israelipalestinian Peace Process. Youll see more support now for that Peace Process and for israel in that Peace Process than youve ever seen before. Because again israels arab neighbors do not see it as the enemy. They see it as the ally battle for iran in the region. That may be wishful think. All the same issues and difficult to solve issues between the israelis and the palestinians. None of those go away as a result of this. But what white house officials believe and what they hope is that you now have more support from israels arab neighbors than youve seen before. That will provide more impetus for the palestinians to make a deal. And the president has been very careful on this trip. This was a president who spoke about immediately moving the embassy and he hasnt mentioned that once. We asked official that in public and private settings. Its not something theyre pushing now. Theyre not looking to push anything that will antagonize the palestinians. Charlie so what about the idea the president in his meeting with the Russian Foreign minister and Russian Ambassador offered up classified information that had come from the israelis . Its an incredible story. It overshadowed the trip when netanyahu and he met and as the reporters were being ushered out of the room it was remarkable to hear President Trump saying, wait, wait, i have something to say. He said he never told the russians the information. That wasnt the story. The story was the information came from israel. But it provided a little bit more fuel for the story. Did it do any damage . I dont know. Theres no obvious damage that was done to the israeliu. S. Relationship. The public statements coming out of the israelis are the relationship are as strong as ever but it was clearly Sensitive Information and the israelis didnt want that information to be handled as loosely as it was. Charlie ret let me move to a broader issue and mueller is looking at a lot of things getting ready for his investigation. So all thats there when you come back. Can you look at the trip so far and say its been well prepared . The president made a speech welcomed by the saudis. The president s in israel and hes having good conversations with the prime minister. He goes on now to rome and the g7 meeting where hell complete his nineday but so far the president is doing as they hoped he would do . Absolutely. I think the trip so far has been one of the highlights of the Trump Presidency so far. The speech was well received. Not up universally but well received by the gulf neighbors and hes been on the world stage and it has been a trip that isnt simply going by and talking to people. Its a well conceived trip and a strategy behind the trip and a larger Foreign Policy and National Security objective. But he goes back right before memorial day and james comey has agreed to testify. Well see if that takes place now that muellers investigation and mueller may not want him to appear in public at this point. But as soon as he gets back all those problems await and theres a long way to go on this trip. Charlie who will he see at the g7 . Before he goes to the g7 he goes to nato in brussels. Theres a nato meeting. Again theres a chance for him to walk back some of his Campaign Rhetoric which was nato is obsolete. Nato doesnt do enough to pull its share. Hes changed that rhetoric already. Well see how he does in nato. Then in g7 in sisley hell be meeting with the issues that are the bread and butter of the administration. Charlie i know its late there in jerusalem. Safe travels. Thank you, charlie. Thank you. Charlie well be right back. Stay with us. Jordan peele is here. His work on the Comedy Central sketch series key and peele earned him awards. He made a directorial film and his film is called one of the most satisfying thrillers in several year. Get out has grossed over 38 times its budget for 175 militar million. Heres a look at the trailer. You have your here te theatre. Mom and dad my black boyfriend will be coming up this weekend. I dont want you to be shocked but hes a black man. Ive never seen you like this before. Dont come back all different. So you guys come up from the city . Yeah, heading up for the weekend. Can i see your license, please. He wasnt driving. I didnt ask who was driving i asked to see his i. D. How longs this been going on . We hired them to help with hi parents. I couldnt bare to let them go. Do you smoke in front of my daughter . Im going quit. She can take care of that for you. How . Hypnosis. So look i go do my research. Apparently a bunch of brothers been missing in this suburb. How not scared of this . I dont see no brothers around here. You felt much more comfortable with my being here. Sorry, man. Get out. I got to go. Is everything okay . Get the keys. Ji dont know where they are. Wait. What a terrible thing to waste. Theres too many white people. No, no, no, no. Charlie i am please to have jordan peele back at this table. Welcome. Thank you. Charlie you call it a social thriller. Yeah. I thought there needed to be a new word for this. In, its weird because its not quite full on horror. The trailer looks what i hear a lot is im not a fan of horror movies but this one i liked. This one i could deal with. I think theres something about the thriller genre that has more of an intellectual con owetation. So i connotation so im torn. Charlie you decided to look at racism and put it within a horror genre and bring the two together and it becomes a social thriller. And it becomes a social thriller. I very much patterned this movie over like stepford wives and marys baby which dealt with gender and hit the issues. Both stories by ira levin are about men making decisions with womens bodies. Charlie and if you can do that with gend are er gender you can do it with race. When they were competing in 2008 in the Election Gender and race were seen in context with one another for the first time in a long time. Charlie in context . Almost like in 2006 what will be historys first. The first woman or black man. It almost felt like the two identities were pinned against each other. Which is more deserving in a weird way. But what it did for me was show that theres civil rights plights though they have different paths its the same thing. Charlie how will African Americans view this differently than white americans . Its a really good question. One that i thought about a lot creating it. I definitely knew i wanted to make a movie that would serve the very loyal black horror thriller fan base who comes out loyalty time and time again. We see horror movies we like and we identify that world but were not represented there. Not only is our skin not represented in a protagonist role but our identity isnt presented. Our awareness of staying out of danger. This goes back to the eddie murphy routine, black people in a horror movie make a very different short horror movie. Thats where part of the title came from this amityville title of get out. I was making a movie for black people but i doesnt want to exclude anybody. Charlie have you always wanted to be a filmmaker . Since i was 13, 14 i wanted to be a director. I was so transported by my favorite movies like alien and Edward Scissorhands and it scared me for a while into comedy but it was a good thing. It was what i needed to get my full training i think. Charlie when you thought about being a director did you think about trying to direct a horror film . Yeah, i did. I basically like all the fun genres, action, scifi, horror. I think the title of a horror would be the coolest thing for me. Charlie you went the comedy route which may have been good preparation for being a director. I think so. Comedy is an art form that forces you to study and be aware of the audience. Especially when you get live comedy training which the first section of my career was live improv and sketch and you get this idea of what the audience is going to respond to and you learn to you train yourself to be able to sort of pinpoint what the audience is thinking and what theyre feeling at any point. So when i made this movie it was that same sort of attention to the audience. Theres no way you can sort of regard what youre hoping the audience can get out of it. Charlie and theres also timing. And timing. Timing its a real link between horror and comedy actually. Both require a certain precision with timing because if youre going to stair an audience you need to get the scare at the same time. If youre getting a laugh you want the audience to laugh at the same time. Its about tension and release. Charlie was the thought of racism after the 2008 election or has that always been in there somewhere . The first notion i knew i wanted to make a horror movie about was unwanted attention. You always hear the fear of public speaking is the the images to me of people all of a sudden turning to look at you is universal. I started with that and soon i realized i wanted to make a movie about race which was very terrifying but i thought lets write. Charlie did you show it to people once you had a rough cut or simply work within your own script. I did show people. I did show people. And thats generally how i work. Im very collaborative. Im into anybodys opinion. Like i said, i think theres some filmmakers who have an attitude ill make the film for me and if nobody likes it too bad. Its my movie. Thats not me. I want to make ever person in the audience like it. Charlie you never had the thought of a postracial era. Idea we ever were in a Postracial America is a sentiment that came when president obama was elected and we had a black president charlie the president didnt seem to want to make his blackness an issue. And in key and peele we did the obama and his anger translato translator luther that was the idea he was rise ag above race and we understand he could get pigeonholed if she showed anger. He didnt clap back at donald trump in accusing him not being if this country. Long story short the postracial lie is a huge part of why we are where were at now. Charlie because we denied it with the hope the postracial era is here and it was counterpresident elec counterpresident elect counterproductive is common ground. It was a way to suppress talking about it. If we called out trump for being racist in that nonsense, the vibe i felt was who cares. We have a black president. There was this acceptance that race was unimportant because we had obama. I felt anytime communication and dialog is suppressed it gets out of control. Charlie black lives matter was that an influence . No. The black lives Matter Movement began far into the process of making this movie. I had already written the movie. Actually, i had come out with the movie and by the time i put pen to paper was three years ago so around then. There was a convergence with the movement and the movie. Charlie what about the incidents of Police Shootings and some being acquitted . Yeah, you know, a tremendously horrific and painful realization that we came to. I think the cell phones and the black lives Matter Movement were reasons we were able to come out of the postracial lie, as i call it. But yeah, the interesting thing is i was making the movie as the culture was developing. So by the time the movie was the first round of shooting was done we were in a very different america then when i started the movie. Charlie did you change the movie at all . It did. On the dvd bluray theres a commentary, i talk about it. Charlie the directors notes or whatever. The directors notes. The original ending we shot was a downer. It was meant to be a gut punch. Charlie the original ending. And he ended up in jail. It was meant to be a sort of wakeup call. By the time wed shot the movie, the wakeup call has kind of happened. It was quite clear that audiences needed an escape. They needed a happy ending. Charlie not comedy, a happy ending. Someone who had gone through all the experience hed gone through in the film. He needs to come out of that. We needed a hero. And especially the movie coming out after trump was elected as well. I think there was even more of a feeling of some justice and escape and the ability to look at the issue of racism in a way that doesnt seem to drain everything we have left. You can actually think and have a dialog about race and while seeing kind of a fun irreverent movie. Charlie heres where chris meets the parents. How longs this been going on . Four months. Four months . Five months, actually. Shes right. Im wrong. Attaboy. Better get used to saying that. Some sorry. Yeah, so sorry. Do you have an off button. Its exhausting. I want a tour. Charlie so what do you want us to think about the parents at this stage . It occurred to me at some point in the writing stage that it would be too easy to go at the more typically the people more typically accused of being racist. If i went after the liberal elite type of parents that id really be hitting the postracialness. The people who present that they are not racist the most in a way. And really what i want is complicated. I want the audience know its a horror movie and know its going somewhere dark but we also know they are probably the best version of these mystery parents you could meet. Theyre about as comforting as it gets. Though they have these moments that fall in the micro aggression category you can like them but you Pay Attention to every word. Charlie theres something off. Something a little bit danger