Transcripts For KPIX CBS This Morning 20141210 : comparemela

Transcripts For KPIX CBS This Morning 20141210

World in 90 seconds. Todays eye opener. What it does is endangers every one of our people over seas. It was a big step in the wrong direction. The Senate Releases an explosive report on the cia. Among the findings they did not produce intelligence that mattered or made america safer. Cia director john brennan basically put out a statement saying yes, there were mistakes made but it saved americans lives. This is simply not true. So hes lying . Are you saying hes lying . Now wait a minute. Wind gusts could be 40 to 60 meanwhile, heavy rain snow from pennsylvania to points north. A fire at a Senior Living facility in dallas. Many people were rescued. Two people were killed as a result of this fire. Protesters marched briefly, halting traffic on a state freeway. The royal couple staying busy on the third and final day. In new york. The duke and duchess of cambridge ended their trip at a black tie event at the metropolitan museum of art. Do you wish they were staying longer . Absolutely. 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The head of the cia insists a new report on its interrogation methods after 9 11 does not tell the whole story. Senate Intelligence Committee democrats claim the agency brutalized terror suspects, misled congress and the white house. The report spells out the socalled enhanced interrogation techniques, including keeping detainees awake for up to 180 hours in stress positions, waterboarding, sensory deprivation and vertical shackling. It resulted in permanent injuries and one death in hypothermia. That one detainee was held partially nude and held chained to a concrete floor. President obama is praising the reports release. We took some steps that were contrary to who we are, contrary to our values as some of the tactics that were written about in the Senate Intelligence report were brutal. And as ive said before constituted torture in my mind. And thats not who we are. Nancy cordes is on capitol hill with more of the fallout. Nancy, good morning. Good morning. This report is just as harsh as everyone expected. It says th cia hid the truth about these tactics for years and that it exaggerated the amount of intelligence that was produced in those brutal sessions. The report says the worst abuses took place in secret detention sites like one where detainees were kept in total darkness and given buckets for human waste. Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein says those facilities were mismanaged. The cia deployed officers would had histories of personal ethical and professional problems of a serious nature. The report says at least 39 prisoners were subjected to enhanced interrogation between 2002 and 2009, and that the program was not effective because some detainees produced no intelligence, while others provided significant accurate intelligence prior to or without these techniques. Republicans on the Intelligence Committee say they looked at the same evidence and concluded the tactics did help the cia track down Osama Bin Laden, foil a plot at Heathrow Airport and identify Khalid Sheikh mohammed as the mastermind behind 9 11. Saxby chambliss is the committees chairman. Thats a lot of intelligence collected in the cia that this study tries to quietly sweep under the carpet. Reporter Arizona Republican john mccain who was tortured in vietnam saw things differently. I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. Reporter the report says the cia kept washington in the dark sometimes on orders from the bush white house. One cia email from 2003 said the white house is extremely concerned secretary of state colin powell would blow his stack if he were to be briefed on ways been going on. Even president bush wasnt fully briefed until 2006 four years after the start of the program. A lot of americans will say, these guys were responsible for killing thousands of americans, i dont care if they were waterboarded or sleep deprived. Yes, theres some of that and its quite possible to feel that way, but, you know, were a country that doesnt do this. Her report says a lot of the dirty work was actually performed by a pair of contractors, psychologists who essentially came up with these tactics, did a lot of the interrogations and were paid by the cia 81 million. Gayle. Nancy, thank you. George tenet was cia director when the Interrogation Program began. He spoke to 60 minutes back in 2007 after he left office. Tenet told scott poly the scott pelley the techniques he authorized did not go too far. We dont torture people. Let me say that again to you. We dont torture people. Come on, george. We dont torture. Khalid sheikh mohammed. We dont torture. Waterboarding. We dont torture people. No, listen to me. No, listen to me. I want you to listen to me. The context is its post9 11. Ive got reports of Nuclear Weapons in new york city apartment buildings that are going to be blown up planes that are going to fly into airports all over again, plot lines that i dont know whats going on inside the United States and im struggling to find out where the next disasters going to occur. Everybody forgets one central context of what we lived through. The palpable fear that we felt on the basis of the fact that there was so much we did not know. But what youre essentially saying is some people need to be tortured. No, i did not say that. I did not say that. Youre telling me the enhanced interrogation i did not say that the enhanced listen to me youre making it a thats a euphemism. Im not having a sematic debate with you. Im telling you what i believe. Mike morell served under him. He was Deputy Director from 2010 until last year and was acting director when the Agency Responded to the report. Good morning. Good morning. Lots of opinions about this report. Character the report from what you know about inside the cia and characterize what was done and why. Charlie, this was, this is a deeply flawed report and its flawed in two ways. One is that many of its main conclusions are simply wrong. For example, program not effective, not true. Cia lied to Congress Lied to the white house, lied to the department of justice. Simply not true. The republicans agree with that. Except john mccain and lindsey graham. Correct. But the republicans on the committee. Second, second, is it leaves out much of the story. What part of the story does it leave out . It leaves out the extensive discussions the cia had with the executive branch and it leaves out the extensive discussions that cia had with congress at the time. And congressman who were briefed on this program in 2002 2003 2004 supported this program and some even thought that we did not go far enough. Not whether it was legal then and whether you had authorization. When you look at what was done was it torture as we define torture today . One of the reasons i react so strongly, as does george tenet, people calling it torture, is the department of justice told us at the time this is legal, this is not torture. So when people call it torture, i react strongly because it says my officers tortured people. They did not torture anybody. To me the idea that somebody could be waterboarded Khalid Shaikh mohammed and thats not torture, i dont understand that definition. I dont understand how forced enemas on someone is not torture. I dont understand how leaving someone awake for 180 hours is not torture. Thats where the argument is. Theres a legal argument about that. I think the key questions are, given the techniques that were used that are now banned did they accomplish anything did they lead to the capture and killing of Osama Bin Laden. And that is still under debate. Norah, when i was acting director in early 2013 this report showed up on my desk and i was essentially a blank slate, because i was not involved in the Program Early on. So i was reading the Senate Report and i was looking at our response and i wanted to make sure that our response could stand up to scrutiny. I wanted to make sure our response was right. So i pored over this program in early 2013 like i have never pored over anything before. And when i walked away from studying the Senate Report, studying our response and talking to our officers, i actually became more convinced this program was effective in gettingings in that led to the capture of additional senior operatives that. Ed plots that that would have killed americans. I have no doubt about it. I think everybody, mike morell, would expect everybody to defend what the cia did back then. What is about it that is shameless and disgraceful . You heard president obama say its not who we are. This is a great question and a central question. What we should be debating as a society. Was this right or was this wrong. This report never takes that important question on. And its a difficult question. Because on the one hand you can say, whats the morality of doing this to another human being. Whats the morality of doing this to another human being. Its inconsistent with who we are as a country, in terms of our stance on Human Dignity and human rights. But on the other hand whats the morality of not doing this. When you firmly believe you need to do this in order to stop terrorist attack and save lives. Mike, in terms of everything that has happened since then, if it was today, and all that has happened since this report would you authorize, would you ask to do the same thing today . You have to put it, charlie, in the context of the times and the times today are different, so i dont know. The context of the times. Just take georges discussion here a little bit further. 3,000 people had just been killed. We had credible intelligence reporting of a second wave attack. We had intelligence reporting that Osama Bin Laden was meeting with scientists. We were not learning anything from them. The cia concluded that inhumane techniques are counterproductive. These were not counterproductive. Is there one way you can prove go ahead. I was just going to say, if they were, if the cia was open and transparent and briefed about this and okay internally which there were documents that show there were questions. They were afraid to tell colin powell about this. Why wasnt the president of the United States fully briefed until 2006 years after dozens of detainees had been subjected to these harsh techniques . The president of the United States george bush, approved this program. All you have to do is read his book where he says he knew about the program. He said he was uncomfortable with two techniques but the record also shows he wasnt briefed by the cia director about how those techniques were being carried out. He was briefed by a National Security adviser. So he knew everything that was going on . Yes. Are you concerned about this report . Yes the taliban this morning said because of this report, were going to increase our attacks in afghanistan. Mike, thanks so much. Youre welcome. Well talk with jose rodriguez, the cias former director of clandestine service, ahead on cbs this morning. A massive rescue effort to save hundreds of seen are yous s seniors from a huge fire in dallas. More than 150 firefighters fought the flames and rescued 300 residents. At least two people were killed. Many were in wheelchairs or needed extra help. At least three people were taken to the hospital. Many of you in the west are waking up to soaking rain this morning. Most of Washington State is seeing showers. High wind also a problem. Some rivers spilling over their banks. Flood watches in effect through friday. Meteorologist Danielle Niles of our cbs station wbz is tracking the Stormy Weather that stretches through california. Danielle, good morning. Good morning and good morning to our viewers in the west. An active pattern here. We have blizzard warnings in effect for the intermountain west. High Wind Warnings to the coastline. Winter storm warnings in punk and flood watches. A lot going on here. Damaging wind gusts may come up to 70 miles here. Whiteout conditions in the mountains with localized flooding including river flooding in the pacific northwest. Theres a series of storms coming in off the ocean, grabbing that moisture. We have areas of low pressure moving in. The Pineapple Express bringing heavy downpours, changing to snow. Thats going to linger through the end of the week. Alleviating drought conditions. However, obviously flooding willingwill be exacerbated. A drenching noreaster is moving away from the east coast this morning. Many are still feeling its effects. In massachusetts, huge waves slammed against seawalls. Flooding roads and sending water into homes. And in maine, heavy snow from the noreaster is welcome at saddleback ski resort just in time for the start of the ski season this weekend. There are new questions this morning other the story of an alleged gang rape at the university of virginia. A friend of jackie is criticizing Rolling Stone magazine. And standing by her friends account. Good morning. We spoke with alex pinkleton. She says she a victim of a oncampus Sexual Assault herself and a friend of jackies. She also said she spoke with the reporter about her own story but the reporter chose jackies story because it was more extreme. She was looking for a piece that would easily be sensationalized. Reporter she says Rolling Stone reporter sabrina ederle had a agenda for her story, find a very innocent victim and a monstrous perpetrator. Its not hard to find a lot of survivors here and a lot of survivors that have stories that are more verifiable. Reporter pinkelton says the trauma jackie suffered and the pressure put on her by the reporter are responsible for the inconsistencies in jackies story. I definitely believe jackie was sexually assaulted. Since day one, anyone that was there the night of the friends of the story, theyve all said she looked distraught she said to them she had been sexually assaulted, and that part has been consistent. Reporter in the article jackie said her Three Friends identified as andy cindy and randal, found her on a Street Corner shaking in her bloody dress. The Phi Kappa Psi house, where the incident occurred loomed behind them. Cbs news reached out by phone to the individual identified as andy. He told us he does not remember seeing visible injuries on jackie on the night in question and when he met jackie, it was nowhere near the house but instead in nt from of the first year dorm. He said he was never contacted by Rolling Stone reporter to corroborate jackies account. He said i just want to know what happened to her that night before she came to us. Pressing ahead for reform. In an interview with the Washington Post University President Teresa Sullivan says uva has been working on a much larger problem that has been plaguing so many schools. I want to make the point we have been concerned about these issues of Sexual Assault and alcohol use for a long time she said. Its not just all about the Rolling Stone story. Cbs news reached out to Rolling Stone about our interview, but they havent gotten back to us yet with a statement. Now, earlier this morning, we received a statement from an attorney general whos been retained by jackie. Shes with the Central Virginia legal aid society. In a statement, she wrote, as i am sure you all can understand all of this has been very stressful, overwhelming and retraumatizing for jackie and her family. At this time our position is still no comment. All right, julianna, thank you very much. It is 7 19. Ahead on cbs this morning, a judge becomes a replay official. Why an Oklahoma Court will from the kpix 5 weather center, good morning, everybody. Roberta gonzales with a look at your temperatures out the door right now. Very mild into the 50s. And later today, we will have the high wind warning going into effect through thursday. Our winds will increase out of the southeast 10 to 20 later this afternoon, gusts up to 70 tomorrow with that Flash Flood Watch in effect. A high surf advisory, as well. With the cloud cover today, temperatures into the 60s. The extended forecast, we have our eye

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