The events of january 6th, 2021, and the violent assault on our nations capitol a Pivotal Moment in american history. More than 1,100 people have been charged with crimes in connection with that day. 600 have been convicted and sentenced. But its the fate of one man, former president donald trump, and the role he might have played in trying to overturn the 2020 election that could well determine where our country goes from here. A trial for mr. Trump could take place as soon as march, and when and if that trial takes place, a key witness for the prosecution may be former white house aide Cassidy Hutchinson. This morning shell tell her story to our tracy smith. You are watching the Capitol Building get defaced over a lie. Reporter Cassidy Hutchinson stunned the political world with her testimony about january 6th and then she vanished. You couldnt go back to your apartment . I could not go back to my apartment. I ended moving to atlanta for several months. Part is for security. 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You are in hiding . Were are coming out of hiding. Reporter forecast cassidy the past two years havent been a day at the beach. I go out in limited capacities. But part of it is for security. Reporter she is basically off the radar since that day last summer when she found herself in the eye of a political hurricane. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. Reporter only one witness. She is potentially a blockbuster. Cassidy hutchinson. In june 2022, hutchinson, then 26 and a superstormer Senior Advisor to trump chief of staff mark meadows testified before the january 6th committee and she didnt hold back. As an american, i was disgusted. Reporter her position as an aide who worked only steps from the oval office seemed to make it all the more powerful. You are watching the Capitol Building get defaced over a lie. Reporter but reports of security threats afterwards drove her into hiding. My life changed in the fact that way i was living my wife. Reporter . Reporter you couldnt go back to your apartment . No. I ended up moving to atlanta for several months. Reporter they didnt think it was safe to stay in d. C. . Reporter no. Reporter it would have been unthinkable a few months earlier. Hutchinson was a trump loyalist from new jersey who worked her way up are from a white house internship to a spot as one of the higher ranking aides in the west wing with access to the chief of staff and often the president himself. I was the conduit to the white house chief of staff. To get to him, you had to go through me in some capacity. Reporter did people trust you . I would think so. When i worked there, people did trust me. Reporter but the events of january 6th left hutchinson shocked and disillusioned. In the final days of the administration, she was fired, but as a former white house insider she was subpoenaed by the january 6th committee and she started talking in a series of taped depositions. I felt torn a lot of the time because i knew what i knew and i wanted to come forward with what i knew, but at the same time i didnt want to feel like i was betraying them. Reporter as hutchinson writes in a new book, published by simon schuster, which, like cbs, is owned by paramount global, her first attorney was paid by a trump pac and she was advised the less she remembered, the better. You are having this moral dilemma. You looked over the transcripts and you counted the number of times that you said, i dont know, i dont recall, you said i dont know and i dont recall more than 100 times. Yes. In the final transcripts, it was ritled with i dont knows and i dont recalls, which was information that i clearly recalled. Reporter so, as she struggled with the thought of betraying her coworkers, hutchinson started googling another landmark d. C. Hearing. Watergate. And found alexander butterfield, the former nixon aide who revealed the existence of the white house taping system and helped bring down a president. Mr. Butterfield, all of the president s conversations and the offices mentioned and on the telephones mentioned were recorded . As far as you know . That is correct. Reporter butterfields story became her beacon of hope and the bob woodward book about him, the last of the president s men, became her bible. She usually keeps her well worn copy close at hand. He was the source of strength for me and gave me the perspective that not only that i could do this, but that there was life on the other side of it. Reporter and so armed with a new found conviction and new attorneys, she headed up to capitol hill. And into history. Did you want to back out at any point . Oh, yes. I almost ran out of those little hold room outside the Committee Room that we were about to walk in, and i almost started. Reporter even then, that close . Yeah. Reporter you wanted to run away . I heard the door click and i looked at my attorney and said, i cant do this. I walked. He gently pushed my shoulder and said, you can do this, and we walked out. When i returned reporter among the most explosive moments, a story she said she heard from the White House Deputy chief of staff about a january 6th incident with secret Service Agent bobby ingle in the president ial limousine nicknamed the beast where the president was said to have insisted on being taken to capitol hill to join his supporters. The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Ingle grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby ingle and when mr. Renaud oree counted the story to me, he motioned towards his clavicles. Reporter both men say they dont remember this conversation happening. How can you explain that . I know that i recall in this particular instance. I cant climb inside the minds of tony arenado and bobby ingle. Maybe they dont recall this happening. But for me i stand by what i testified to in that incidence and any other incident that been disputed. These are Banana Republic indictments. Third world indictments. Reporter in in an interview last week President Trump weighed in disputing her account. Who wouldnt dispute it . She is the craziest account i heard. You mean i was in the beast and she said i was in the beast and the secret service didnt so i took a guy who like a black belt in karate and grabbed his neck and tried to choke him . How ridiculous. Reporter you admit in the book, you admitted here you told less than the truth, that you lied. Why should we believe you now . Because what would i have to gain by coming forward . It would have been easier to continue being complicit and to stay in the comfortable zone of i had some sense of security, a semblance of security. I knew people i could easily reach out to for jobs. I had friends. Reporter have you talked to either tony or bobby since . I have not. I have not talked to many people in the trump world since the day of my testimony. Reporter hutchinsons book is full of anecdotes about her time in trump world, including a detailed account of trump attorney Rudy Giuliani groping her. Giulianis team calls it a disgusting lie, but hutchinson stands by her story, as does her publisher. She was also among the witnesses who testified for the federal grand jury in washington and the grand jury in fulton county, georgia. Its not clear how much impact her testimony had on the subsequent indictments of the president and his associates, but there was someone watching it all with special interest. The man who helped inspire hutchinson to come forward. Alexander butterfield is now 97 and living in southern california. And she has been able to thank him in person. Now we are lifelong friends. Yeah. More than friends, we are, yeah. Reporter Cassidy Hutchinson says that whaooil her life and heroes changed she is still a republican. Are you backing someone yet in the 2024 election . I would like to make clear i would not back the former president of the united states. He dangerous for the country. He is willing and has showed time and time again willingness to proliferate lies and to vulnerable american people, so he could stay in power. To me that is the most unamerican thing that you can do. I want to thank miss hutchinson for her testimony today. We are all in her debt. Reporter Alex Butterfield said hed do it all over again. Would you . I would. I dont think i would really change anything. I got to where i needed to be and im proud of the work the committee did, and im also very grateful that they were willing to listen and that america was willing to listen, too. I have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well. 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Reporter and the cover story is about milk. Marta is the president and ceo of Consumer Reports. Milk. And if you recall, there is grade a and grade b. And at the time Consumer Reports asked, whats the difference . And there is no difference. You just pay more. Reporter what . But its exactly the same. Reporter in 1936, they found the higher price for grade a wasnt justified. Cr, as its known, has been surprising and sometimes outraging consumers for 87 years. Testing more than 2,000 products for safety and effectiveness annually. How many people work for Consumer Reports . Just short of 600 testers, journalists, scientists, investigators that really pursue the mission. We have 60 labs. We test. We have engineers. We do the research. No one does what we do in a nonprofit organization. This our impact test. Reporter most of their work is done in labs like this at crs headquarters in yonkers, new york. For example, dropping bike helmets to see which ones survive a crash and which ones dont. Wow as you can see, part of this reporter that means that the helmet is not safe. And look at this test. They actually have mosquitos sting volunteers to see which repellants work. They test refrigerators to see how cold they are. Drills to see how boring they are. And toilets. Well leave it there. Crs annual testing budget runs well over 30 million funded mostly by 6 million members who pay 30 to 59 a year to subscribe to the magazine or website. Cr accepts no freebies from manufacturers. They buy every product they evaluate to avoid any conflict of interest. These have been watched for two hours already. Reporter you are kidding . Lee is mr. Dishwasher, who tests dozens of the machines with his own impossible to clean, swirly, gunky sauce. They are cleaner than before. As you can see, you wouldnt want to eat off them. Reporter he doesnt expect any of the dishwashers to clean perfectly. 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I am going to approach that pedestrian as a distracted driver. I am driving along. I am not going to hit the brakes. Reporter fisher told us its because of cr that many vehicles on the road today come with a crash avoidance system that kicks in when humans get distracted. Oh, wow i did not touch the brakes. I didnt do anything. The car did that all for me. There is no regulation to say that cars need to have this technology. However, we have communicated to the Car Companies that it affects our score. And because of that, just a few years ago, around 30 of vehicles had it standard. Now its around 85 . In some ways, we are a de facto regulatener that way. Reporter cr is so influential, when it comes to cars, even elon musk listens. When they launched the tesla model 3, talked for 45 minutes with elon musk at the time. Reporter he called you up himself . Yeah, the brakes didnt perform very well on our test. We talked it through. He understand the problem. Within the week, that actually improved brake performance and consumers have will cars bethat stop better than that. Reporter they spend 2 million a year to purchase around 50 cars and trucks, and as jenn stock burger, the Operations Manager at the test track revealed, they buy all those vehicles in secret. What does that even mean, secret buyer . We go in much like every consumer would and only at the very end of the transaction do the dealers know its for Consumer Reports. I am afraid you are blowing our cover. Reporter i know. The dealers say, if i had known you were from Consumer Reports, i would have treated you differently. I think, you treat you always want to treat your costume