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Ferencz. Hes 97 years old, barely five feet tall, and hes the last surviving prosecutor of the nuremberg trials. Tonight youll hear his remarkable story. And i started screaming. I said, look, i have mass murder, mass murder on an unparalleled scale. He said, can you do this in addition to your other work . I said, sure. He said, okay, you do it. A base hit. Schwarber delivers. Whitaker joe maddon told us flatout, without you, the cubs would not have won the world series. I guess thats a compliment. I dont like to think that way. I like to think theres always that team effort. Whitaker and that, right there, is the character this team was built on. You said you love your number geeks, but thats not what won game seven of the world series. Thats right. Whitaker what did . The heart. The heartbeat won the world series. Im steve kroft. Im lesley stahl. Im bill whitaker. Im anderson cooper. Im scott pelley. Those stories tonight on 60 minutes. 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W us its delicious members have lost 15 more weight in the first two months than on our Prior Program and theyre still eating the foods they love cooper President Trump promised hed crack down on Illegal Immigrants, and in his first 100 days has moved quickly to do just that. Since the president took office, the u. S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, ice, says its arrested 21,000 undocumented immigrants, more than 5,000 of whom have no criminal record. Thats more than twice as many as the year before. The president s supporters argue his tough new policy has led to a dramatic drop in the number of people trying to cross into the u. S. This year, but its also had a profound effect on communities throughout the country. For the past few weeks, weve followed how the new policy has played out in one community in indiana, where people were surprised to learn that one of those deported was a friend and neighbor, the owner of a popular local restaurant. Hed lived in this country for nearly 20 years, had no criminal record, and his wife and children are all u. S. Citizens. Eddies steak shed in granger, indiana, is a local institution. Its a familyrun restaurant where generations of hoosiers have come for conversation and cholesterol. sizzling it seems like this is, like, your local cheers . Group it is. It is. laughs cooper but as we spoke with these regulars a few weeks ago, the man they said was the heart of the business, its long time cook and new owner Roberto Beristain, was behind bars, awaiting deportation. Beristain entered the u. S. Illegally from mexico in 1998, but, in recent years, hed been issued a temporary work permit, a Social Security number and a drivers license. Kimberly glowacki it just feels wrong. Michelle craig the community is better for having someone like him. Matt leliaert i mean, he showed up here with just the shirt on his back, and hes a Restaurant Owner 20 years later. I mean, thats. And he worked his butt off to get there. Ive seen it. Cooper theyre all strong supporters of Roberto Beristain, though four out of six of them voted for President Trump. During the primaries, the president said this about Illegal Immigrants President Trump they will go out, they will come back. Some will come back, the best, through a process, and it may not be a very quick process. Cooper and later, during the general election, he said this President Trump but we have some bad hombres here, and were going to get them out. Dave keck i voted for him because he said he was going to get rid of the bad. The bad hombres. Roberto is a good hombre. laughs cooper Roberto Beristains wife, helen, who also works at the restaurant, was born in greece and became a u. S. Citizen 16 years ago. She met roberto in 1998 at another restaurant in fort wayne, indiana. Helen beristain he was a busser, and i was a se. He started talking to me a lot, and i tried to ignore him. He kept on talking to me. Cooper and you tried to ignore him . Helen beristain smiling and smiling and smiling. He always smiles. Very positive person. Cooper they got married, had three kids and settled into a comfortable suburban life. Has he ever been in trouble with. With the law . Helen beristain never. Never. Cooper never committed a crime, d. U. I. Helen beristain definitely not, no. Cooper hes not a criminal. Helen beristain hes not a criminal. The only bad thing he. Hes done is stayed in the United States because he loves this country. Thats his only crime. Cooper according to most estimates, there are about 11 Million People living within the u. S. Illegally; about 3 of them have felony convictions. President obama we prioritize criminals, we prioritize gangbangers. Cooper for most of his presidency, barack obama ordered ice to focus on deporting people convicted of felonies and serious misdemeanors. Ice agents were often asked to explain their decision to remove anyone else, particularly those whose Family Members were u. S. Citizens. President trump thank you for being here. Cooper but on his fifth day in office, President Trump signed a new executive order that made it easier to deport people who have no criminal record, including anyone who has whats called a final order of removal against them. Its that wording that changed the beristains lives. Thats because 17 years ago, roberto and helen, who was pregnant with their first child, took a trip to niagara falls. She says they made a wrong turn and ended up near the canadian border. Roberto was detained for not having any papers. He was released only after he agreed to this Immigration Court order requiring his voluntary departure from the United States within 60 days. When he didnt leave, he automatically became the subject of a final order of removal which mandated he be deported. Your husband did break the law, didnt. Didnt leave the country when he had told a judge that he would. Why should he get special treatment when other people whove been waiting in line are trying to do it the right way . Helen beristain my husband, first of all, broke the law because at the time when i was pregnant, i was very ill, and it was a high risk, either losing the baby or losing my life. So, the decision he had to make was between me and the baby or him going back to mexico. He chose us. But any other man, what would they do in his shoes . Cooper helen says over the years theyve spent more than 45,000 hiring attorneys to try to legalize robertos status, but it wasnt until three years ago that things started looking up for the beristains. Roberto obtained a temporary deferral of that deportation order, which meant he could get a work permit, a Social Security number and a drivers license. All he had to do was check in with the government once a year and prove hed been in no trouble with the law. Helen beristain he was excited. He says, im all legal now. Im so good to go. Cooper but it was still just a temporary status. He still had to check in with ice every year. Helen beristain right, exactly. Cooper on february 6, shortly after President Trump signed his new executive order, Roberto Beristain came here to an Immigration Office in indianapolis for his annual checkin. Helen was in the parking lot waiting when an ice officer came to let her know her husband would not be coming home. Helen beristain he said, your husband is being detained because he is a fugitive. I said, my husband is a fugitive . My husband is not running from you. You didnt come knock on my door to look for my husband. He came to you. Why this year he is a fugitive . What happened . Craig roberto was doing everything he was supposed to do, so he was an easy target. Cooper he wasnt hiding. He wasnt living in the shadows. Craig he wasnt hiding, right. And so, they grabbed somebody who was following the rules. Cooper most of you voted for donald trump. He said he was going to do this. Hes done this. Why are you surprised . Craig because this is not the person he said he would deport. Keck and why would you deport somebody like that when you got so many other bad people out there . It just doesnt make sense to me. Cooper ice declined to give us an interview, but, in a statement, the agency said beristain was detained because of that final order of removal in accordance with federal immigration law. James carafano, a policy expert at the Heritage Foundation and a member of mr. Trumps transition team, told us the president s new policy is designed to serve as a deterrent. Carafano its not that theyre going out and theyre looking for people who have done nothing, but that we have an obligation to enforce the law. And if somebody comes across our path whos broken the law, then you know what . Theyre probably going to go because the message is, theres a new sheriff in town, and the laws going to be enforced. Cooper youre saying that deporting somebody like Roberto Beristain, it does send a message to others who may be thinking about coming here illegally . Carafano i. I think thats absolutely true. Cooper the number of people caught trying to cross the southern border has dropped 60 in the first three months of President Trumps administration. Apprehensions are now at a 17 year low. Analysts we spoke to believe the president s tough new policies have discouraged border crossers, but so have other factors, including an improving job outlook in mexico. The average cost of deporting someone like Roberto Beristain is about 11,000. His odyssey through the immigration detention system gives you some sense why. Over the course of two months, he was moved from indianapolis to brazil, indiana; kenosha, wisconsin; kankakee, illinois; new orleans, louisiana; chaparral, new mexico; and Sierra Blanca and el paso, texas. His family often didnt know where he was going or why he was being moved there. Helen beristain tell me something. Did they tell you when they are going to deport you . Cooper we were at the house one evening when roberto called. Helen beristain so, wait a minute. They said no, roberto they said they were going to take you to mexico city. So, now they are changing again . Okay, i love you. Be careful. Bye. He sounded scared, so scared. Like, whats going to happen to me . crying cooper the irony of whats happened is not lost on robertos wife. Like a lot of her friends and relatives, Helen Beristain also voted for President Trump. You voted for him. Helen beristain i voted for him because he said were going to make our economy better. I. I did like that idea. And i said to roberto, i said, you know what . You know, youre getting a small business, and thats going to help you with your taxes. But he said, okay, well you dont think hes going to deport us, all people . And i said. Cooper roberto actually raised that idea . Helen beristain yeah, he did. And i said, roberto, come on now. Youve got your documents. You obey the law. You havent done anything bad. You. Youre not a criminal. Cooper are there times when you feel that you made a terrible mistake . Helen beristain like they say, you should read the fine print first before you make a selection. I should have listened closely to those debates. That was a mistake i made. I didnt listen. Cooper the beristains children eightyearold demetri, 14yearold jasmine, and 16yearold maria have a difficult time understanding whats happened to their father. Maria, did you know he wasnt a u. S. Citizen . Maria beristain no, i didnt know. Jasmine beristain he makes this home a home, and he makes a family a family, because hes, you know, the father. And when hes gone, when you take that away from a family, its like its all going down. Like, for my mom, its very hard. And for us, its hard, too. Cooper what did you he say to you when you were talking on the phone . Jasmine beristain the first thing he said was, you got as . laughs cooper he was asking you about your school . Jasmine beristain yeah. Im like, yeah. And hes like, okay, good, because i want you to become a lawyer. I was like, yeah, ill. Im going to become a lawyer. Ill. An attorney. Im going to be an immigration attorney. Cooper since Roberto Beristains detention has been in the news, the restaurant has received threatening calls and angry letters directed at helen. Pack your bags and go to mexico, said one. When you voted for trump, you were voting for every bigot who is coming after you, said another. Helen beristain you got people hating people left and right. This is not america. This is not the american dream. And this is how. This is not how were making America Great again. Cooper on april 4 at 10 00 p. M. , Roberto Beristain was taken to this Border Crossing and deported to juarez, mexico. He spent the night at a shelter run by the catholic church. We found him there the next morning. He told us he was praying to be reunited with his family and was still somehow optimistic. Roberto beristain wherever i go, they are going to be with me. Everything is going to be okay. Either way or other way, we are going to be together. Craig if i was told that peaceful immigrants that are trying, are in the process of becoming an american citizen, would be deported, i would not have voted for trump. Cooper some people say, look, Illegal Immigrants are coming here, and theyre taking jobs. Glowacki thats not even the case with roberto. He employs, what, 20 people . Hes not taking jobs, hes creating jobs. Cooper is it a good use of resources to deport someone like Roberto Beristain . Carafano that is part of the overall public good of demonstrating not just to americans but to people around the world that American Immigration laws are going to be enforced. Thats an important message. Cooper so, theres no room for discretion . Carafano i mean, i. I. Look, i dont enforce the law. I dont say where there is room for discretion. Im saying, i dont necessarily think that just because somebody was, you know, nice in the 20 years they live here that they have a right to live here. Cooper Roberto Beristains lawyers are challenging the validity of that old order of removal that led to his deportation to mexico. They may also apply for a special waiver for him to reenter the u. S. , but that can take two to three years. If hes denied, hell be banned from returning for a decade. Cbs money watch update sponsored by lincoln financial. Youre in charge. 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Ferencz is the last Nuremberg Prosecutor alive today, but he isnt content just to be part of 20th century history; he believes he has something important to offer the world right now. You know, you have seen the ugliest side of humanity. Ferencz yes. Stahl youve really seen evil. And look at you; youre the sunniest man ive ever met. laughs the most optimistic. Ferencz you ought to get some more friends. Stahl watching ben ferencz during his daily swim, his gym workout. Ferencz now im just showing off. Stahl . And his morning pushup regimen. Ferencz 100. Stahl . Is to realize he isnt just the sunniest man weve ever met, he may also be the fittest. Ferencz how was that . Stahl and thats just the beginning. Ferencz the case we present is a plea of humanity to law. Stahl this is ferencz making his Opening Statement in the nuremberg courtroom 70 years ago. Ferencz the charges we have brought accuse the defendants of having committed crimes against humanity. Stahl the nuremberg trials after world war ii were historic, the First International war crimes tribunals ever held. Hitlers top lieutenants were prosecuted first. Then, a series of subsequent trials were mounted against other nazi leaders, including 22 s. S. Officers responsible for killing more than a Million People not in concentration camps, but in towns and villages across eastern europe. They would never have been brought to justice were it not for ben ferencz. You look so young. Ferencz i was so young. I was 27 years old. Stahl had you prosecuted trials before . Ferencz never in my life. I dont. Stahl come on. Ferencz . Recall if id ever been in a courtroom, actually. Stahl ferencz had immigrated to the u. S. As a baby, the son of poor jewish parents from a small town in romania. He grew up in a tough new york city neighborhood where his father found work as a janitor. Ferencz when i was taken to school at the age of seven, i couldnt speak english, spoke yiddish at home. And i was very small. And so, they wouldnt let me in. Stahl so, you didnt speak english til you were eight . Ferencz thats correct. Stahl could you read . Ferencz no, on the contrary. The silent movies always had writing on it, and i would ask my father, wazukas in. In yiddish what does it say . What does it say . He couldnt read it, either. Stahl but ferencz learned quickly; he became the first in his family to go to college, then got a scholarship to harvard law school. But during his first semester, the japanese bombed pearl harbor, and he, like many classmates, raced to enlist. He wanted to be a pilot, but the Army Air Corps wouldnt take him. Ferencz they said, no, youre too short. Your legs wont reach the pedals. The marines, they just looked at me and said, forget it, kid. Stahl so, he finished at harvard then enlisted as a private in the army. Part of an artillery battalion, he landed on the beach at normandy and fought in the battle of the bulge. Toward the end of the war, because of his legal training, he was transferred to a brand new unit in general pattons third army, created to investigate war crimes. As u. S. Forces liberated concentration camps, his job was to rush in and gather evidence. Ferencz told us he is still haunted by the things he saw and the stories he heard in those camps. Ferencz a father who, his son told me the story. The father had died just as we were entering the camp. And the father had routinely saved a piece of his bread for his son, and he kept it under his arm at. He kept it under his arm at night so the other inmates wouldnt steal it, you know. So, you see these human stories which are not. Theyre not real. Theyre not real. But they were real. Stahl ferencz came home, married his childhood sweetheart and vowed never to set foot in germany again. But that didnt last long. General telford taylor, in charge of the nuremberg trials, asked him to direct a team of researchers in berlin, one of whom found a cache of top secret documents in the ruins of the German Foreign ministry. Ferencz he gave me a bunch of. Of binders, four binders. And these were daily reports from the Eastern Front which unit entered which town, how many people they killed. It was classified. So many jews, so many gypsies, so many others. Stahl ferencz had stumbled upon reports sent back to headquarters by secret s. S. Units called einsatzgruppen, or action groups. Their job had been to follow the german army as it invaded the soviet union in 1941 and kill communists, gypsies and especially jews. Ferencz they were 3,000 s. S. Officers trained for the purpose and directed to kill without pity or remorse every single jewish man, woman and child they could lay their hands on. Stahl so, they went right in after the troops . Ferencz that was their assignment come in behind the troops, round up the jews, kill them all. Stahl only one piece of film is known to exist of the einsatzgruppen at work. It isnt easy to watch. Ferencz well, this is typical operation. Well, see here, this. They rounded them up. They all have already tags on them, and theyre chasing them. Stahl theyre making them run to their own death . Ferencz yes. Yes. Theres the rabbi coming along there. Just put them in the ditch, shoot them there. You know, kick them in. Stahl oh, my god. Oh, my god. Stahl this footage came to light years later. At the time, ferencz just had the documents, and he started adding up the numbers. Ferencz when i reached over a Million People murdered that way over a Million People, thats more people than youve ever seen in your life i took a sample. I got on the next plane, flew from berlin down to nuremberg, and i said to taylor, general, weve got to put on a new trial. Stahl but the trials were already under way, and prosecution staff was stretched thin. Taylor told ferencz adding another trial was impossible. Ferencz and i start screaming. I said, look. Ive got here mass murder, mass murder on an unparalleled scale. And he said, can you do this in addition to your other work . And i said, sure. He said, okay, so you do it. Stahl and thats how 27 yearold ben ferencz became the chief prosecutor of 22 einsatzgruppen commanders at trial number nine at nuremberg. Judge how do you plead to this indictment, guilty or not guilty . Defendant nicht schuldig. Ferencz standard routine, nicht schuldig. Not guilty. Judge guilty or not guilty . Defendant nicht schuldig. Stahl they all say not guilty. Ferencz same thing, not guilty. Stahl but ferencz knew they were guilty and could prove it. Without calling a single witness, he entered into evidence the defendants own reports of what they had done. Exhibit 111 in the last ten weeks, we have liquidated around 55,000 jews. Exhibit 179, from kiev in 1941 the jews of the city were ordered to present themselves. About 34,000 reported, including women and children. After they had been made to give up their clothing and valuables, all of them were killed, which took several days. Exhibit 84, from einsatzgruppen d in march of 1942 total number executed so far 91,678. Einsatzgruppen d was the unit of ferenczs lead defendant, otto ohlendorf. He didnt deny the killings; he had the gall to claim they were done in selfdefense. Ferencz he was not ashamed of that. He was proud of that. He was carrying out his governments instructions. Stahl how did you not hit him . Ferencz there was only one time i wanted to. laughs really. One of these. My defendants said. laughs he gets up, and he says, was . Die juden wurden erschossen . Ich hore es zum ersten mal horen. Which is what . The jews were shot . I hear it here for the first time. Boy, i felt if id had a bayonet, i wouldve jumped over the thing and put a bayonet right through one ear and let it come out the other, you know . You know . Stahl yeah. Ferencz that son of a bitch. Stahl and you had his name down on a piece of. Ferencz and ive got. Ive got his reports of how many he killed, you know . Innocent lamb. Stahl did you look at the defendants faces . Ferencz defendants face were blank, all the time. Defendants, absolutely blank. They could. Like, they. Theyre waiting. Theyre waiting for a bus. Stahl what was going on inside of you . Ferencz of me . Stahl yeah. laughs ferencz im still churning. Stahl to this minute . Ferencz im still churning. Stahl all 22 defendants were found guilty, and four of them, including ohlendorf, were hanged. Ferencz says his goal from the beginning was to affirm the rule of law and deter similar crimes from ever being committed again. Did you meet a lot of people who perpetrated war crimes who would otherwise in your opinion have been just a normal, upstanding citizen . Ferencz of course is my answer. These men would never have been murderers had it not been for the war. These were people who could quote goethe, who loved wagner, who were polite. Stahl what turns a man into a savage beast like that . Ferencz hes not a savage. Hes an intelligent, patriotic human being. Stahl hes a savage when he does the murder, though. Ferencz no. Hes a patriotic human being acting in the interest of his country, in his mind. Stahl you dont think they turn into savages even for the act . Ferencz do you think the man who dropped the nuclear bomb on hiroshima was a savage . Now i will tell you something very profound, which i have learned after many years war makes murderers out of otherwise decent people. All wars and all decent people. Stahl so, ferencz has spent the rest of his life trying to deter war and war crimes by establishing an International Court like nuremberg. He scored a victory when the International Criminal court in the hague was created in 1998. He delivered the Closing Argument in the courts first case. Now, youve been at this for 50 years, if not more. Weve had genocide since then. Ferencz yes. Stahl in cambodia. Ferencz going on right this minute, yes. Stahl going on right this minute in sudan. Ferencz yes. Stahl weve had rwanda, weve had bosnia. Youre not getting very far. Ferencz well, dont say that. People get discouraged. They should remember, from me, it takes courage not to be discouraged. Stahl did anybody ever say that youre naive . Ferencz of course. Some people say im crazy. Stahl are you naive here . Ferencz well, if its naive to want peace instead of war, let them make sure they say im naive because i want peace instead of war. If they tell me they want war instead of peace, i dont say theyre naive; i say theyre stupid. Stupid to a incredible degree to send young people out to kill other young people they dont even know, who never did anybody any harm never harmed them. That is the current system. I am naive . Thats insane. applause thank you so much. Stahl ferencz is legendary in the world of international law, and hes still at it. Ferencz so, youre going to help me save the world . Woman i hope so. Stahl he never stops pushing his message. Ferencz law, not war. Never give up. Girl never give up. Stahl and hes donating his life savings to a Genocide Prevention Initiative at the holocaust museum. He says hes grateful for the life hes lived in this country, and its his turn to give back. You are such an idealist. Ferencz i dont think im an idealist; im a realist, and i see the progress. The progress has been remarkable. Look at the emancipation of woman in my lifetime. Youre sitting here as a female. Look whats happened to the samesex marriages. To tell somebody a man can become a woman, a woman can become a man, and a man can marry a man, they would have said, youre crazy. But its a reality today. So, the world is changing. And you shouldnt, you know, be despairing because its never happened before. Nothing new ever happened before. Stahl ben. Ferencz were on a roll. Stahl i cant. Ferencz were marching forward. Stahl ben . Im sitting here listening to you, and youre very wise and youre full of energy and passion. And i cant believe youre 97 years old. Ferencz well, im still a young man. Stahl clearly, clearly. Ferencz and im still in there fighting. And you know what keeps me going . I know im right. Leslie stall on the difference of meeting history and greeting history. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com sponsored by viagra. Do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension. Your Blood Pressure could drop to an unsafe level. 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The cubs victory parade attracted more than a million, the biggest turnout chicago had ever seen for what no living chicagoan can remember seeing a cubs championship. Manager joe maddon said the giant sea of joy reminded him of woodstock. Maddon welcome to cubstock 2016. Look at this thing. Youre looking out at, like, this. Literally, this. The horizon of people. It was spectacular. Go, cubs, go whitaker spectacular because theyd ended the longest championship drought in professional sports. The cubs turnaround began five years ago when the teams new owner, tom ricketts, hired a miracle worker. Theo epstein had already helped break an 86year championship drought by bringing a world series title to boston. When the savior arrived in chicago, one paper had him walking on water. But in his first season, the cubs lost 101 games. By the end, only his head was above water. Epstein i thought it was funny. The 2011 cubs were the oldest team in the division, the most expensive team in the division, and the worst team in the division. And we really needed to start over. Whitaker and theyre expecting you to deliver. Epstein yeah. Whitaker epstein devised a fiveyear plan to go all the way from worst to first, starting with the draft. Most teams take young pitchers, but epstein chose hitters. He said hitters dont get hurt as much. Epstein not only were they safer bets, but we also felt we could change the culture a little bit easier by building around talented position players with high character. Whitaker so, youre looking for more than just their skills; youre looking for character. Epstein yeah, because baseballs a game with a ton of adversity inherent in it. And players that tend to respond to adversity the right way and triumph in the end are players with strong character. If you have enough guys like that in the clubhouse, you have an edge on the other team. Whitaker you said, i used to scoff at character. What changed . Epstein i just saw over the years that the times that we did remarkable things, it was always because players didnt want to let each other down; players wanted to lift each other up. Whitaker so, how do you determine which player has the character traits youre looking for . Epstein find out how he treats people when no ones looking. You go talk to their girlfriend. You go talk to their ex girlfriends. You go talk to their friends. You talk to their enemies. Whitaker Kyle Schwarber was a promising young hitter at indiana university. Many teams had their local scouts interview him, but, for the cubs, theo epstein did the interview; then made schwarber his top draft pick. What was it about his character that impressed you . Epstein kyle played baseball with a football mentality. Whitaker what do you mean . Epstein he would run through a wall in order to catch a ball. He would attack any obstacle that faced the team. Whitaker but running flat out, chasing a fly ball in the first week of his Second Season disaster. Schwarber tore his knee ligaments so badly that doctors said he would be out for the entire season. He believed them, but he still attacked his rehab relentlessly. Schwarber i wanted to challenge myself, and i wanted to get back as soon as possible. Okay, im going to push myself. Whitaker while schwarber was rehabbing, the cubs were dominating. Grand slam time whitaker the pressure kept building, pressure that could have crushed this young team. Manager joe maddon had the antidote for pressure. Maddon i talked about pressure and expectations as being positives, and they are. Embrace it. Embrace the target, embrace the pressure, embrace expectations. Because if you do, you could end up winning the first world series in 108 years in chicago. laughs whitaker maddon came to the cubs two years ago after managing in tampa. Once, when tampa got off to a terrible start, what maddon did shows why everyone would want to work for him. Whitaker your team lost the first six games. Maddon oh, yeah. Whitaker and youre flying off to the seventh, and you go through the plane and you pour a drink for each one of your players. And they have no idea why youre doing this. Maddon i had this really good bottle of whiskey. Pour a little shot in each guy. And then, i went up to the front, got the p. A. System, and i announced to the best 06 team in the history of major league baseball. Whitaker so, what was the lesson from that . What did that do . Maddon its about never quitting. Its just to break the tension. So, burden lifted, pressure eased, and i could play baseball again. Whitaker maddon puts his own motivational sayings on t shirts, which he gives to all his players. You have a favorite . Maddon try not to suck. Whitaker thats pretty good. Maddon i think thatll endure the test of time. Epstein joes the best ive ever seen at getting players to just relax, be themselves, have fun and prioritize winning. Whitaker in modern baseball, all teams mine statistics to gain an advantage. By last season, the fifth of epsteins fiveyear plan, the cubs had taken it a step further scouting the opposition in minute detail to know how to get opposing hitters out. Epstein we try to do a great job of understanding the opposing hitter and his tendencies, maybe understand the hitter better than he knows himself. Whitaker you said that having all of this information was almost like having a cheat code. Epstein it almost feels like cheating. You give your pitcher so much confidence, they know that were calling the right pitch because youve broken down the opposing hitter so well. Maddon were really good at it. Were good at it. Pitchers got the ball, he knows what he wants to do. Defense is being set based on, like, i dont know, 250 atbats or plate appearances. Its really solid stuff. Here comes the 22. Whitaker using those stats, cubs pitchers allowed the fewest runs in the league. Its a no hitter. Whitaker . And the cubs positioned their defense so well. Diving grab, heyward. He caught it. Whitaker . That they turned more than 70 of balls hit in play into outs, the highest percentage in the majors in more than 25 years. Maddon its all about defense. Were going to go back to the world series because we play the same level of defense. Whitaker and cubs defenders are so versatile that catchers, infielders and sometimes pitchers also play in the outfield. Heres pitcher travis wood in left. That versatility allows the team to carry an extra pitcher instead of a backup fielder. Maddon when we move guys around, were still really solid on defense. It lengthens the bench, more maneuverability, and also again giving guys days off. But theres also the component that some guys like it. Whitaker you have said that fun is a big part of success. Why is fun so important . Maddon i have never done anything well that i didnt have fun doing. I believe the more freedom in a sense that we give our players, the greater respect and discipline we get in return. Thus, you get a better player. Whitaker and one of their best, Kyle Schwarber, kept rushing through rehab. Then, to everyones surprise, his doctor cleared him just in time to play in the world series. Schwarber hes like, im not going to hold you back, but i could blow out a hamstring or an oblique by. By trying to do this. And i was like, thats fine. I got the whole offseason to take care of it. But. laughs whitaker ill worry about that later. Schwarber yeah, exactly. I can worry about that stuff later. Whitaker but schwarber hadnt batted for the entire season. Hitters need weeks to retrain their eyes to face 100milean hour major league pitching. Schwarber only had a few days and medical restrictions. Your doctors, i think, had told you, you should only swing, like, 60 times a day . Schwarber yeah. Whitaker so, how in the world did you get your batting eye back so fast . Schwarber i want to set up a pitching machine. I want to set, you know, fastballs, sliders and curveballs where i could just stand at the plate in a batters box and watch these pitches go by. Whitaker just you can see it . Schwarber yeah, just so. Just so i can see it and train my eyes all over again. Whitaker each day, he spent two hours focussing in on more than 300 pitches. Schwarbers long road back. Whitaker schwarber told us he knew of no one who had ever done that before, so he wasnt sure it would work. Schwarber i just tell myself over and over again that, you know, im a good hitter; like, i can do this, and a base hit. Schwarbers delivered 20. Whitaker in the world series, you hit over. 400. Schwarber a lot of luck, i guess. Whitaker a lot of luck. Schwarber laughs drive into left. Stahl but in game seven of the world series, just four outs from victory, the cubs blew a threerun lead. Tie game the tarp is on the field. Whitaker tied six to six after nine innings. A rain delay stopped play. It turned out to be a godsend. The cubs were dejected, shocked, stunned. Then, another triumph of character. Outfielder jason heyward, whod batted terribly all series, suddenly called a team meeting. Epstein it really stands out, too, that jason heyward, who had the toughest season really of any of the individuals in that room, would have the courage to stand up and call that meeting. Whitaker so, how many times in the season had a player called a full meeting . Heyward we didnt have any, didnt have any player meetings. Whitaker never. Heyward because we never needed one. Whitaker heyward told us, during the season, if a player got down, the other players would pick him up. But this time. Heyward we all needed to be picked up at the same time. We all felt frustrated. We all felt confused. Whitaker so, how did you know what to say . Heyward i didnt know what to say. I just told them that i loved them. I said, we are the best team in the game. Were going to win this game. And guys started saying, fight the fight. We got them where we want them. Lets go do what we do. Schwarber you could feel that energy in that room to where it. It shifted from, you know, being dead to being, you know, were. Were going to win this game. Whitaker after that meeting, you said, im going to get on base. Schwarber its just, you get that gut feeling. Like, you know, you feel really good before you go up to the plate, and, you know, you. Youre going to do something. And i couldve been just talking a lot of crap, too, but i really believed it. Hard hit. Base hit. Whitaker schwarbers single started the rally that won the world series. The cubs scored twice. Cubs will take the lead. Whitaker . Then pitching and defense did the rest. Heres the 01. This is going to be a tough play. The cubs win the world series its over and the cubs have finally won it all whitaker they all shared the joy, but, on this team, no one wanted the credit. Joe maddon told us flat out, without you, the cubs would not have won the world series. Schwarber oh, my god. I guess thats a compliment, right . laughs whitaker i guess thats a compliment. laughs schwarber i dont like to think that way, you know . I. I. I like to think that its always. Theres always that team effort. Whitaker and that, right there, is the character this team was built on. You have said that you love your numbers geeks, but thats not what won game seven of the world series. Maddon thats right. Whitaker what did . Maddon the heart, the heartbeat won the world series. By the end of the day, man, it was a group of guys getting together during a rain delay, and they rallied around one another. That had nothing to do with math whatsoever. Not a thing to do with math. Thank you, tom. Whitaker team owner tom ricketts has become a rock star in chicago. Ricketts hopes the championship will be transformational. Ricketts our c our logo, it used to stand for loveable loser or just loser. I want that to stand for excellence, for players who do things the right way, and i want that to stand for winning. Epstein we have one of the youngest teams in baseball. Almost all of them are going to be together through 2021 at the least. It gives them a chance to try to be the type of team that shows up and plays well in october year after year after year. I think everyone deserves more than one world series every 108 years, so we have some making up to do. laughs this cbs sports update is brought to you by the lincoln motor company. Jim nantz from wilmington, north carolina, and the wells Fargo Championship where brian harmon sank a 28foot putt on the penal green to edge world number one Dustin Johnson and pat perez by a shot. 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