Good evening. And welcome to cbs News Coverage of the final of three president ial debates. You could say this is the last chance for voters to really size up these candidates before the election. You know the saying norah, what happens in vegas, stays in vegas. Except for tonight where theyre calling this political fight night. The last two debates were called personal, nasty, dark. Our own Bob Schieffer called last weeks showdown in st. Louis disgraceful. The whole discussion today has been what will we see tonight . Because a lot has happened in the p donald trump is now down nine points in our latest cbs news poll. No president ial candidate has made up a deficit that large this close to the election. Strategist frank luntz will be watching the debate tonight with a group of voters here in the battleground state of nevada, and well hear what they have to say when this is all over about 90 minutes from now. The nonpartisan Debate Commission chose Chris Wallace of fox to moderate the debate, and he is solely responsible for the questions. John dickerson is with us. And, john, we heard from the Debate Commission that they want drilling down on the issues. Will we see that . Thats what they want. Donald trump has another plan. He has said he is now unshackled, and weve seen since the last debate what that means tough attacks on Hillary Clinton, attacks on the women who have accused him of assault, attacks on bill clinton, and also this talk of a rigged election, tell his supporters to watch certain communities in cities. Hes raising questions about the legitimacy of the election. This is all an effort to destabilize. And thats what hell be trying to do tonight, destabilizing, and Hillary Clintons task is just to stay on balance. Well see how that turns out. Theres been a lot of speculation tonight about which donald trump will show up. Major garrett has been covering the Trump Campaign and joins us. Major. If trump advisers get their way, and thats not always the case with donald trump, he will change the subject away from a barrage of stories accusing him of sexual misconduct, and in some cases, worse, and embrace mantle of change, describe himself, his advisers hope, as a genuine agent of change on the special interest influence in washington. If he can do that, trump advisers believe he can reignite a campaign thats gone through a very tough patch. Major, thank you. Nancy cordes covers the clinton campaign. Norah, clintons approach tonight if it aint broke, dont fix it. Her aides believe these debates have been the catalyst for the rise in the polls the past few weeks because shes been able to show she can stand up to donald trump can and keep her cool when he sometimes does not. The one wild card how do aides have expressed in those hacked emails. The debate is about to begin. Lets go down to the stage per this final president ial debate. Good evening from the thomas and mack center at the university of nevada, las vegas. Im Chris Wallace of fox news. And i welcome you to the third and final of the 2016 president ial debates between secretary of state Hillary Clinton and donald j. Trump. This debate is sponsored by the debates. The commission has designs the format six, roughly 15minute segments with twominute answers to the first question, then open discussion for the rest of each segment. Both campaigns have agreed to those rules. For the record, i decided the topics and the questions in each topic. None of those questions has been shared with the commission or the two candidates. The audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent no cheers, boos, or other interruption focus on what the candidates have to say. No noise, except right now as we welcome the democratic nominee for president , secretary clinton. And the republican nominee for president , mr. Trump. applause secretary clinton, mr. Trump, welcome. Lets get right to it. The first topic is the Supreme Court. You both talked briefly about the court in the last debate, but i want to drill down on this because the next president will almost certainly have at least one appointment, and likely or possibly two or three appointments, which means that you will, in effect, determine the balance of the court for what could be the next quarter century. First of all, where do you want to see the court take and secondly, whats your view on how the constitution should be interpreted . Do the founders words mean what they say, or is it a living document to be applied flexibly, according to changing circumstances . Ce in this segment, secretary clinton, gufirst. You have two minutes. Thank you very much, chris. And thanks to u. N. L. V. For hosting us. You know, i think when we talk about the Supreme Court, it really raises the central issue kind of country are we going to be . What kind of opportunities will we provide for our citizens . What kind of rights will americans have . And i feel strongly that the Supreme Court needs to stand on the side of the American People, not on the side of the powerfulr corporations and the wealthy. For me, that means that we need a Supreme Court that will stand up on behalf of on behalf of the rights of the l. G. B. T. Community, that will stand up and say no to citizens united, a decision that has undermind the election system in our country because of the way it permits dark, unaccountable money to come into our eleceral system. I have major disagreements with my opponent about these issues and others that will be before the Supreme Court. Our countrys history, it is important that we not reverse marriage equality, that we not reverse roe v. Wade that we stand up against citizens united, we stand up for the rights of people in the workplace, that we stand up and basically say the Supreme Court should represent all of us. Thats how i see the court. And the kind of people that i would be looking to nominate to the court would be in tradition of standing up to the powerful, standing up on behalf of our rights as americans. And i look forward to having that opportunity. I would hope that the senate would do its job and confirm the nominee that president obama has sent to them. Thats the way the constitution fundamentally should operate the president nominates and then the Senate Advises and concents or not. But they go forward with the do you want to see the court take the country and how do you believe the constitution should be interpreted . Well, first of all, its a great to be with you, and thank you, everybody. The Supreme Court is what its all about. Our country is so, so just so imperative that we have the right justices. Something happened recently where Justice Ginsberg made some very, very inappropriate statements toward me and toward a tremendous number of people, they represent. And she was forced to apologize. And apologize she did. But these were statements that should never, ever have been made. We need a Supreme Court that, in my opinion, is going to uphold the Second Amendment and all amendments, but the Second Amendment, which is under absolute siege. I believe if my opponent should win this race which i truly dont think will happen we will have a Second Amendment replica of what it is right now. But i feel that its absolutely important that we uphold because of the fact that it is under such trauma. I feel that the justices that i am going to appoint and ive named 20 of them the justices that im going to appoint will be prolife. They will have a conservative bent. They will be protecting the Second Amendment. They are great scholars in all cases, and theyre tremendous respect. They will interpret the constitution the way the founders wanted it interpreted. And i believe thats very, very important. I dont think we should have justices appointed that decide what they want to hear. Its all about the constitution of of and so important, the constitution the way it was meant to be. We now have about 10 minutes for an open discussion. I want to focus on two issues that in fact, by the justices that you name, could end up changing the existing law of the land. First is one that you mentioned, mr. Trump, ands that guns. Secretary clinton, you said last year and let me quote the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And now, in fact, in the 2008 heller case the court ruled that there is a constitutional rito that is reasonably limited. Those were the words of the judge, antonin scalia, who wrote the decision. Whats wrong with that . Well, first of all, i support the Second Amendment. I lived in arkansas for 18 wonderful years. I represented upstate new york. I understand and respect the tradition of gun ownership. It goes back to the founding of our country. But i also believe that there amendment, doesnt mean that i want people who shouldnt have guns to be able to threaten you, kill you or members of your family. And so when i think about what we need to do, we have 33,000 people a year who die from guns. I think we need comprehensive background checks. We need to close the online loophole. Close the gun show loophole. There are other matters that i think are sensible, that are the kind of reforms that would make way conflicting with the Second Amendment. You mentioned the heller decision, and what i was saying that you referenced, chris, was that i disagreed with the way the court aplield the Second Amendment in that case. Because what the district of columbia was trying to do was to protect toddlers from guns, and so they wanted people with guns to safely store them. And the court didnt accept that so i see no conflict between saving peoples lives and defending the Second Amendment. Let me bring mr. Trump in here. The Bipartisan Open Debate Coalition got billions of vote on questions to ask here, and this was in fact one of the top questions that they got. How will you ensure the Second Amendment is protected . You just heard secretary clintons answer. Does she persuade you that while you may disagree on regulation, that in fact Second Amendment right to bear arms . Well, the d. C. Versus heller decision was very strongly and she was very angry about it. I watched. She was very, very angry when upheld. And it was a well crafted decision. But hillary was extremely upset, extremely angry. And people that believe in the Second Amendment and believe in it very strongly was very upset clinton, were you extremely upset . Well, i was upset, because, unfortunately, dozens of toddlers injure themselves, evev kill people with guns because, unfortunately, not everyone who has loaded guns in their homes takes appropriate precautions. But theres mow doubt that i respect the Second Amendment, they also believe theres an individual right to bear arms. That is not in conflict with sensible, commonsense and, you know, look, i understand that donalds been strongly supported by the n. R. A. The gun lobby is on his side. Theyre running millions of dollars of ads against me, and i regret that. Because what i would like to see is for people to come together and say, of course, were going to protect and defend the Second Amendment. But were going to do it in a way that tries it to save some of these 33,000 lives that we lose every year. Let me bring mr. Trump back limits on assault weapons, any limits on highcapacity magazines. You support a national right to carry law. Why, sir . Well, let me just tell you, before we go any further, in chicago, which has the toughest gun lawlz in the United States, probably you could say by far, they have more gun violence than any other city. So we have the toughest laws, and you have tremendous gun convenience. I am a very strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and i am i dont know if ar but im very proud to have the endorsement of the n. R. A. , and its the earliest endorsement theyve ever given to anybody who ran for president. So im very honored by all of that. We are going to appoint justices this is the best way to help the Second Amendment we are going to appoint justices that will feel very strongly about the Second Amendment, that will not do damage to the Second Amendment. Well, lets pick up on ends up winning this election appoint could have a dramatic effect there, and thats the issue of abortion. Mr. Trump, youre prolife. But i want to ask you specifically, do you want the court, including the justices that you will name, to overturn roe v. Wade which includes in fact, state a woman womant to abortion . Well, if that would happen because i am prolife and i will be appointing prolife judges, i would think that will go but im asking you specifically if they overturn it, it will go back to the states. What im asking you, sir, is document to see the court overturn . You said you want to see the court protect the segment, do you want to see the court overturn if we put two, perhaps three justices on, that will happen. And that will happen automatically, in my opinion, because i am putting prolife justices on the court. I will say this it will go back to the states. Determination. Secretary clinton . Well, i strongly support roe v. Wade which guarantees a constitutional right to a woman to make the most intimate, most difficult in many cases, decisions about her health care that one can imagine. And in this case, its not only about roe v. Wade. It is about whats happening right now in america. So many states are putting very stringent regulations on womenat that choice, to the extent that they are defunding plannednn parenthood which, of course, provides all kinds of cancer screenings and other benefits for women in our country. Donald has said hes in favor of defunding planned parenthood. He even supported shutting the government down to defund planned parenthood. I will defend planned amy werights to make their own health care decisions. We have come too far to go back. Indeed he said women should be punished, that there should be some form of punishment for women who obtain abortions, and i could just not be more opposed to that kind of thinking. Im going to give you a chance to respond, but i want to ask you, secretary clinton, how far you believe the right to abortion goes. You have been quoted as saying the fetus has no constitutional rights. You also voted against a lateterm, partialbirth abortions. Why . Because, roe v. Wade very clearly sets out that there can be regulations on abortion, so long as the life and the health of the mother are taken into account. And when i voted as a senator, i did not think that that was the case. The kinds of cases that fall at the end of pregnancy are often decisions for families to make. I have met with women who toward the end of their pregnancy get the worst news one could get, that their health is in jeopardy if they continue to carry to term. Or that something terrible has happened, or just been discovered about the pregnancy. I do not think the United States government should be stepping ii and making those most personal of decisions. So you can regulate if doing so with the life and the health of the mother taken into account. Mr. Trump, your reaction . Particularly on this issue of lateterm, partialbirth abortion . Well, i think its terrible. If you go with what hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. Now, you can say that thats okay, and hillary can say that thats okay, but its not okay with me. Saying and based on where shes going and where shes been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day, and thats not acceptable. Well, that is not what happens in these cases. And using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. You should meet with some of the women that ive met with, women ive known over the course of my life. This is one of the worst possible choices that and her family has to make. And i do not believe the government should be making it. You know, ive had the great honor of traveling across the world on behalf of our country. Ive been to countries where governments either forced women to have abortions, like they used to do in china, or forcewomen to bear children, like they used to do in romania. And i can tell you, the government has no business in the decisions that women make with their families in accordance with their faith, and i will stand up for that right. All right, just briefly, i want to move on and honestly nobody has business doing what i just said, doing that as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth. Nobody has that. All right, lets move on to the subject of immigration. And there is almost no issue that separates the two of you more than the issue of immigration actually, there are a lot of issues that separate the two of you. Mr. Trump, you want to build a wall. Secretary clinton, you have offeredo you want to secure our southern border. Mr. Trump, you are calling for major deportations. Secretary clinton, you say that within your first 100 days as president , youre going to offer a package that includes a pathway to citizenship. The question really is why are you right and your opponent wrong . Mr. Trump, gufirst in this segment. You have two minutes. First of all, she wants to give amnesty which is a disaster and very unfair to all of the people waiting in line for many, many years. In the audience tonight we have fo