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However, about 35 Insurance Companies still had not settled and remained under investigation beneficiary was unaware there was a policy, something that is not at all uncommon. Kevin mccarty the beneficiary never comes forward, because he or she doesnt know the policy exists. Stahl but the companies know, says Kevin Mccarty, the insurance commissioner of florida, who led the National Task force investigating the industry. And the companies dont pay, he says, unless a beneficiary makes a claim. Mccarty and what we found is om knowledge in their files that people have died, yet they have neglected to initiate an investigation and pay the claim. Stahl so in other words, Life Insurance companies are failing to pay out death benefits when they know the person is dead, and theyre claiming they dont know. Mccarty in many cases, that has been exactly what we have found. Stahl when you found that, what went on inside you . Hounds of hell. Lets go after them, and expose them for the unconscionable, indefensible behavior that was going on. Stahl he says some of the policies are worth more than a million dollars. But most are valued at less than 10,000. Joseph bigony morning, joe stahl as a result of the audits, Joseph Bigony of West Virginia recently got a long overdue payment of more than 5,000 from his sisters policy. Bigony i was the administrator of her estate when she died in june of 1990, and we didnt know anything about this at all. Jeff atwater youre talking about millions of policies. Stahl millions . Atwater hundreds of thousands of policies that were dealing with just here in florida. Stahl jeff atwater is the chief Financial Officer of florida in charge of regulating the states Insurance Industry. Atwater you can assume from what we have found that the policies that should have paid out in the 60s, in the 70s, in the 80s, in the 90s were never stahl and youre saying its part of their plan . Atwater after all weve looked at, leslie, it would be hard to imagine. This is not a small dollar amount. These are billions of dollars that now stay in the investment accounts of these Insurance Companies rather than return money to those families. Stahl tell us some of the big names. Atwater it would be all the large brand names that youre familiar with john hancock, metlife, prudential. Many of these companies have sat down with us and made right. Stahl no one disputes that the insurers pay out on policies when the beneficiary f but says Kevin Mccarty of florida, many of the companies routinely and deliberately disregarded evidence in their own files that the policyholders had died. Unless someone filed a claim, he says, the companies would cancel the policy and keep the death benefit for themselves. Mccarty heres a Life Insurance policy thats issued in florida in january 2002. The insurer died in april of we actually have in the Insurance Companys file, a copy, a scanned copy, of the death certificate. And the accompanying envelope which displayed the spouses return address. Stahl with the spouses address on it. Mccarty its right here. Stahl let me see. Mccarty less than one month after the death the policy was terminated for nonpayment. Stahl industry lobbyists, like this one at a recent hearing in florida, argue that the burden falls on the beneficiaries. Lobbyist we all enter into contracts every day and if you sign that contract, youre obligated to know whats in it. Stahl the Companies Argue that in the policies that these people signed, it says, black and white, that they have to make the claim and show up with a copy or the policy itself. And if they dont do that, we dont have an obligation. Mccarty but florida law says something too. And you have to look at it not just in terms of the contract, and im here to say that you have a responsibility to investigate a claim if you know someone has died. And if you have a letter that says youre deceased, you have actual knowledge the person has died. Stahl Insurance Companies are regulated separately by each state and he says similar laws are on the books across the country. You see right there . Stahl state regulators first got wind of the Insurance Industry practice from jim hartley and jeff drubner who run a technology and Auditing Company called verus financial. Based on an insider tip in 2006, drubner, employing techniques he had used as an f. B. I. Agent, combed through Insurance Company data and discovered that the insurers were routinely using the Social Security death master file, which is a constantly updated list of people who have died in the United States. What was the significance to you that they were using the death jeff drubner i knew at that point that they knew because if you have stahl they knew who was alive and dead, is what youre saying . Drubner yeah, because they know who theyve insured and if they have a list of everybody thats passed away, i knew that they knew. Stahl what was the next step . Jim hartley the next step was to speak to the states. There wasnt one treasurer, one controller or one attorney general who didnt have a reaction that this shouldnt be allowed to happen and we have to fix it. Stahl drubner went on to discover that most Insurance Companies used the death master file only when it was to their advantage to cut off annuity, or retirement payments once the policyholder died. But they didnt then notify the Life Insurance side of the company. Mccarty we have actual cases, leslie, where a policyholder had both an annuity and a life policy. And they terminated the annuity, and of course they knew the person was dead, so they so stahl claimed over here that they didnt know he was dead . Right side told the left side and the other side said stahl and you saw it in the audits . You would just see it mccarty we saw it in the audits. Stahl Something Else they saw in the audits related to whole Life Insurance policies, that in addition to a death benefit build up a cash nest egg, like a 401k. What they found is that when a beneficiary did not come forward, the company continued to pay themselves premiums out of the dead persons nest egg. Instance, the nest egg was drained down more than 9,000 to zero after the person had died. California controller betty yee says that kind of siphoning off was widespread in cases where beneficiaries did not come forward. Betty yee how can you not be outraged by this . Stahl she says that in about a third of the cases, there was evidence of death in the file. Yee here we have a file that you saw with the word deceased in large, large unmistakable letters . Yee yes, yes. Deceased with the date of death. Stahl and still they didnt they didnt stop paying themselves. Yee no, no. And you wouldve thought with that kind of indication, a next step would be to confirm that by looking at the death master file and beginning the claims process with the family member. Stahl and they didnt. Yee they didnt. Stahl when the cash was all used up, the companies cancelled the policy. Under the law, theyre allowed their customers accumulated cash while theyre alive. Floridas mccarty says the law was originally intended as a way to protect consumers. Mccarty for instance, if you have a life policy and you lose your job and you cant make your premium payment, they will take some of the cash value thats built up in your policy and pay the premium. Which is great for consumer protection. Stahl but in this situation, after they died. Know in your books and records the person is dead and you drain the policy. Now if you think about that, if you would have explained that trying to sell that policy at the beginning stahl at the beginning. Mccarty youre sitting in your kitchen and saying, you know, youve got all these symbols of security and Financial Stability and were going to be there for you with your family in their grief, but they say, oh, by the way. If you stick that policy in a shoe box and stick it in your closet, not only are we not going to look for you, but were gonna to take all the cash value in it, and stahl give it back to the company. Mccarty give it back to the company. And leave your beneficiary with nothing. Here, sign here. Stahl the 25 Insurance Companies that have settled with the states admitted no wrongdoing, but agreed to pay out more than 7. 5 billion, either directly to the unpaid beneficiaries by phone. We have received some funds from an Insurance Company thats in your name. Stahl or online. Thousands of oklahomans are owed money from Life Insurance policies. Stahl none of the Life Insurance companies we contacted would give us an interview, but speaking on their behalf, the Industry Trade association, the American Council of life insurers, told us quote most life insurers are going well beyond what the law requires to identify policy owners who have died and left unclaimed benefits. Ken miller, the treasurer of oklahoma, says there are still about 35 Insurance Companies that have not settled and some are fighting tooth and nail. At stake, he says, is up to 3 billion more in unclaimed benefits nationwide. Whos fighting the hardest . Ken miller kemper is the main one. Stahl kemper, a chicago based Insurance Company, has around the country that would bar the states from forcing kemper to go back and search for unpaid beneficiaries. When we called kemper, they referred us to Steve Weisbart of the Insurance Information institute, who says making Companies Like kemper pay now would be unfair. Steve weisbart if we can say, do something today that you didnt expect to do and didnt plan to do and didnt collect money to do 30 years ago, what else can we s t that they should be doing retroactively. Its potentially an open door. Stahl a slippery slope is what youre saying . Weisbart a slippery slope. Stahl kemper has argued in Court Filings that its never used the death master file to identify deceased policyholders and that finding and paying their beneficiaries now would result in a substantial financial loss and require the company to. Substanially alter its business practices. Not going to pay a dead persons loved ones for a policy that theyve completely paid in full, to me thats just a bad policy. Stahl an oklahoma woman, sherry sanders, didnt know about her husbands policy until about a year ago when, because of a settlement, she got a check worth 22,000. We asked oklahoma treasurer miller how much an Insurance Company can make by holding on to the 22,000. Youve hit on something thats the most important issue. And thats the time value of money. Because thats what this is all about. This is about money. That 22,000 invested for 50 years at an 8 return becomes 1. 2 million. Stahl that the company gets because it sat there . Miller and thats just one small policy. If you expand that over all the policies thats just due to my state, its a tremendous amount of money, billions and billions of dollars. Industry has paid out more than 600 billion in death benefits over the last ten years, so the companies are doing a good job. Miller i dont think we should pat them on the back for doing what theyre supposed to do. Stahl but the Companies Say that this is only 1 of the Life Insurance policies. Miller then why fight it . If its so inconsequential, if its such a small amount, then why be spending your reputation to not pay dead peoples loved ones money thats rightfully due them . Stahl since our broadcast first aired, 11 additional Life Insurance Companies Holding about a billion dollars in unclaimed policies have either agreed to pay back death benefits or have entered into settlement talks to do so. Kemper is not one of those companies, and, in states like california, florida and illinois, it continues to fight audits and legislation requiring Insurance Companies to pay off youre that guy who switched to sprint. Sprints Network Reliability is now within 1 of verizon. Can you hear that . Dont let a 1 difference cost you twice as much. Switch to sprint today. . . . . Lara logan the holocaust is marked and memorialized at places like auschwitz, bergen belsen, dachau, but nearly half of the six million jewish victims were executed in fields and forests and ravines, places that were not named and remain mostly unmarked today. They were slaughtered in Mass Shootings and buried in mass graves in the former soviet union, where, until very recently, little had been done to find them. As we reported last october, our story is about a man whos he is not a historian or a detective or a jew. Hes a french Catholic Priest named father Patrick Desbois, and, for the past 15 years, hes been tracking down the sites where many of the victims lie and searching for witnesses who are still alive, many of whom had never been asked before to describe the horrors they had seen more than 70 years ago. Patrick desbois the general order was to eliminate the last jew, even the baby, even the old they never left anybody. Logan so it was a policy of total annihilation. Desbois total annihilation, and if hitler didnt lose the war, i think today will not be one jew alive. Logan father Patrick Desbois is on a mission across Eastern Europe to find hitlers hidden killing fields. Before him lies a continent of extermination. These mass graves and extermination sites, many of invisible. Under a corn field, under a house, under a tomato field, yeah, yeah. Logan and many of them would never be recorded. Desbois and never be recorded and still buried like animals. Logan we traveled with father desbois to the former soviet republic of moldova, where, in one day, he took us to four unmarked mass graves. In this field, he told us, 60 jews; beneath this farm, 100; above this city, under this a thousand bodies do you think theyre still here . Desbois yeah, yeah, theyre still here. Logan thousands of eyewitnesses, millions of documents, and 15 years of investigating have led him to more than 1,700 execution sites. Once in ukraine, under the supervision of a rabbi, he excavated one. Jewish tradition forbids moving the dead once buried, and the desbois and it was officially a place where no jew have been killed, and we found 17 mass graves. Logan and what did you find when you excavated. . Desbois you find everything. You see a mother with handing his boy until the end. And the boy try to go out. You see that another one was buried alive, so she had the mouth open because she was buried with the earth. Logan in june 1941, hitler invaded the soviet union. Just behind his frontline troope as the einsatzgruppen, whose job was to hunt down every last jew. They methodically entered villages, rounded up jewish families, and marched them to freshly dug graves. Some of the remains are buried beneath this mound in lithuania. The assassins reached even the most remote corners, like hiriseni, a tiny village in moldova. So, when the killers came here, they really had only one the jews and the gypsies. Only one goal always. Logan the village is virtually unchanged since the nazis stormed through here. Father desboiss team had gone ahead of us, searching for eyewitnesses to a 70yearold crime. They were led to an 85yearold named gheorghe, still working in this vineyard. Father desbois told us the first question they ask is always the same. Desbois were you here during the war . Say, oh, you can help us. Logan gheorghe was 11 years old then, and he still remembers what he witnessed. Gheorghe translated as soon as they came, they locked everyone up. I saw them taking them away. Logan he asked him where the jews were killed. Gheorghe its a ravine over there. Come and see, if you want. Logan so what youre learning here is completely unrecorded . Desbois yeah, if we didnt come, well never know they killed jews. These jews would have never been counted as dead, never known, logan gheorghe brought us down this road where, he said, all the jewish families from the village were taken. He told us the day of the shooting, he was tending to cows nearby. Now, 70 years later, we watched as he traced the victims steps to the edge of the ravine. Gheorghe the jews were facing the ditch, so they were shooting them in the back of their heads or their backs to fall into the ditch. They were shooting them as if they were dogs. Logan he said it was a Beautiful Day exactly. Desbois a Beautiful Day. Logan . Like this one. Desbois . Like today. Logan with the sunshine. Desbois with the sunshine, yeah. Logan when youre doing this, when youre here and in a place like this, do you ever stop and think, how did i get here . Desbois no, always, i say to people, finally, we found you. Finally, we came back. Logan father desbois leads his search for these jewish victims his calling. Youre not your typical priest. Desbois i dont know if there is a typical priest. laughs i think everybody has to make his way. The pope also is not a typical pope. But hes a pope. And im not a typical priest. But i am a priest. Logan with the blessing of his cardinal and the vatican, he created, in 2004, the organization yahadinunum together as one. Des first thing is to get the map. Logan based in paris, his team begins by combing through millions of pages of german documents, comparing them to soviet archives that only became available after the collapse of the soviet union. They search for clues that lead them to villages where witnesses point them to mass graves. They always record and archive the witness testimonies. Logan to date they have who were children at the time. Many were recruited by the nazis or local police to dig the mass graves, or to take the gold teeth, jewelry, and clothing of the victims. What have we learned about the holocaust that we didnt know before you began your about humanity. I learned everybody can be a killer, anybody can be a victim. I learned that you like to see other people dying in front of you, killed by other people, when you are sure you will not be killed. Logan it was a dramatic finding that villagers chose to watch people being lined up and murdered, a revelation he would never have come to were it not for his grandfather, claudius desbois. He was held as a prisoner ofar in a nazi camp in the Ukrainian Village of rawa ruska. But he never wanted to talk about it. Father desbois was drawn to the village to find out what happened there. He made repeated trips, but no one would talk to him, until one night when the mayor took him to the edge of the forest where 50 elderly villagers were waiting. Desbois and he said, patrick, i bring you at the jews of ravaruska, like in a movie. Logan one by one, they told you their stories, what they witnessed. Desbois 50. Logan 50 of them. Desbois and me, i couldnt bear it. I stopped them, i. Everyone in the middle. I say, ah, its enough. Its enough. The pieces of woman in the tree, its enough. Its enough for you. And they cried, and they went. I found finally what my grandfather never say. I say, they shot the jews in public, and everybody knew. And surely my grandfather saw that. And. But thats it. I was in total shock. Logan you believed that the jews were killed in secret. Desbois yeah, because everybody told me, and i have read many books about the secrets of holocaust. And in soviet union, everybody told me they knew nothing and. Because it was secret. Logan what he learned disturbed him. The killings were spectacles. They took place in broad daylight in front of entire villages. Desbois they were fighting to have a good place like. Like for circus. Desbois not only that, but they were running when they heard when they were killing jews, to see, to try to catch a coin, to check out your clothes, to take a picture. They wanted to be there. Logan this photo of a mass shooting is from the Imperial War Museum archives in london, dated september 14, 1941. Desbois and its a ditch. Here we have a woman with a child. Logan you dont see any spectators, but father desbois suspected the crowd was just outside the frame. Town of dubassary, and it brought him to the home of 81 yearold anatoli, who was eight back then. He said he was at the massacre, alongside his mother. Anatoli translated we were standing somewhere here. And here were the trenches, here they were falling. Logan the carnage lasted two weeks. Dimitri, then 16, said he was there, too. He told us he watched from a collaborators fired on groups of 20 people at a time. Desbois and he thinks how many jews have been killed like that . Translator it was about 18 andahalf thousand people. Logan a number much higher than the official records, which doesnt surprise father desbois, who says the death tolls are often underreported. The bodies are right behind dimitris house in these 11 mass sites in Eastern Europe thats marked and protected. Desbois i never saw one like that among the 1,700 extermination sites where ive been. Logan no one has shined more light on this dark chapter than father desbois, according to paul shapiro, the director of advance studies at the u. S. Holocaust memorial museum, who also sits on yahads scientific board. Paul shapiro the method that hes used, extraordinary. Of localities where before we just had fog. Logan how reliable is his work . Shapiro he has opened the door to the use of multiple sources to understand what really happened on the ground in a big part of europe. Desbois the babies were shot, too. Logan we found father desbois a cautious and skeptical interviewer. A woman with a baby would approach the pit, they forced her to hold the baby in sight. First, they shot the baby and then her. Logan he never judged or showed emotion as he listened to the darkest accounts of humanity. Father desbois insists that every killing site they find is memorialized by recording the gps coordinates. They never physically mark the graves because, he says, people would loot them. His work is finished, the number of jewish victims will total more than has been previously documented. But the number, he says, is less important than giving meaning to their lives. Sometimes in a small village, hell find a witness, like 80 yearold anatoli, who remembers not only the death of his jewish neighbors, but their names. Anatoli brick, gorovich, shurman, and folst. Desbois its like if he was waiting for us in 70 years and now we are here. Every time i come with my team, i say, they are waiting for us. Logan it did seem like he was waiting for you. Desbois yes, like the dead. This cbs sports update is brought to you by the lincoln motor company. 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Yall did wonderful thats another safelite advantage. Rose there is nothing like formula one in terms of global popularity, glamour and speed. It is considered the pinnacle of motor sports. Most americans havent heard of its biggest star. His name is Lewis Hamilton. As we first told you last winter, even if car races arent your thing, there is still much to admire in hamiltons inspiring story of beating the odds and breaking through barriers. But if you do like speed, buckle up because youre about to experience the indescribable rush of driving one of the fastest race cars on the planet. Really prepare you for when you get in the formula one car. Knowing that youre driving a multimillion dollar car, and if you crash it, its going to cost a lot of money and they might not give you another chance, is scary. Rose it is said that youre at one with the car. Hamilton yeah. Its like youre strapped to a rocket. I mean, its like, how do you control this rocket . Its like a raging bull. Its wild. Its sexy. Its fast. Rose Lewis Hamilton was the fastest in 2008, when clinched his first World Championship at the brazilian grand prix. You will never see a more dramatic conclusion to any motor race. Rose no one in the crowd was more proud than his father and manager, Anthony Hamilton. He was only 23; at the time, the youngest champion in the history of the sport. Today, hamiltons 49 career old. Hamilton i want to crush everyone. I want to outsmart everyone. Rose you want to crush everyone. Hamilton i do. Rose at the italian grand prix last september, he did just that as the ferrari faithful and the cream of European Society looked on. Hamilton in his mercedes was the ultimate driving machine, winning the pole position, recording the fastest lap, and leading the race from start to congratulations, lewis. Rose in racing, thats called a grand slam. When it was over, hamilton was so relaxed, it was as if he had just driven around the block. So, how does it feel, this one . Hamilton this weekend is the best ive ever had. Ive never been quickest in every session and all qualifying sessions and the race. Ive never, ever done that. Rose worldwide, formula one generated more than 2 billion last season, but remains a niche f1 executives hope hamilton can change that. They have never seen a star like him before. How many black drivers in formula one . Hamilton one. Rose why is that . Hamilton well, i dont know. I think, in the future, therell be more. Rose youre a role model . Hamilton i hope so. Rose you are, in fact, the face of formula one. Youre the guy. Looks to you and says, you know. Hamilton we need you. Rose we need you. laughter they need you. Hamilton well, i think we need each other. Rose no race car driver becomes a champion without a team. And a fast car. We went to mercedes f1 headquarters in england to see the one hamilton drove in 2014. You said the top speed of this hamilton 200. 220, 230. Rose how does that compare to indy or nascar . Hamilton well, this car will kill both of those cars. Rose kill them . Hamilton kill them. The speed in which we get to. To a 100 miles an hour is probably similar to. To an indy car. But its what this car does through a corner. Its like a fighter jet on wheels. Rose the aerodynamic wings of the car allow it to hug the ground and take corners at over 100 miles an hour. Hamilton says the forces can be five times his body weight, or five gs. He drives to the limit, and sometimes beyond, like when he blew a tire qualifying for the 2007 european grand prix. Whats it like to hit the wall . Hamilton the Journey Towards it is kind of exciting. Rose really . What makes it exciting . Hamilton because you lose control. Hamilton true, yeah. I. I cant really explain that. Rose perhaps its because hamilton has never been seriously hurt in a crash. A generation ago, one or more drivers could die each season, like his hero, ayrton senna. Its considerably safer today. Hamilton it is. Formula one was a very dangerous sport. It still is dangerous, but the danger factor is also the exciting part. Rose it wasnt possible to drive in hamiltons race car, so we borrowed the fastest ride we could find. This is the fastest mercedes . Hamilton yeah. laughs rose nine miles from the teams base is silverstone, home of the british grand prix. We drove straight onto the same track where hamilton has won four times. What are we at now, about 100 . Hamilton doing 140 right im on one of the great race tracks in the world with the greatest driver in the world. How good is that . Hamilton this is good fun. Rose and my heart is somewhere up around my ears. Unbelievable, lewis. But tell me about driving. Talk a hamilton i know that i have to hit the curve right here, so theres. Theres an ideal apex. Rose see there, thats not the way i wouldve anticipated hitting the curve. . . . Hamilton you press the music . Rose laughs i did. I hit. Oh, boy, that was my heart. Races are won and lost in the turns. Drivers are looking for the most efficient angle or line through each one. Hamilton so what youre trying to do when youre driving a racecar, you notice theres lines im taking. So right now, the next one is so im going to be as far over to the right as possible. Rose so its going to be a left. So youre going to be as far as you can to the right . Hamilton yeah. And basically, you want to make. You want to turn as little as possible. brakes squeal rose you want to turn as little as possible . Hamilton yeah. Rose yeah. Rose do they make too much of this idea that great drivers can feel it throughout their body . Hamilton yeah. I can feel it, but i know my. I know my boundaries. I know the limits to the car. Rose before Lewis Hamilton was old enough to drive, he was already a racing prodigy. He got his first Remote Control car at age five. Not long after, he beat the British National champion on a bbc childrens show called blue peter. And we have a winner who won the race . Lewis, well done rose and then he got a secondhand gokart for christmas from his father, Anthony Hamilton. Anthony hamilton its quite a unique story. Because normally, racing drivers come from a long line of, you know, previous successful sports people. But here we were, just a normal family. And not only that, you know, were the only black family on the grid. Not only that, lesser equipment to others. Rose six years old, and he said, i want to be a formula one racer. Anthony hamilton yeah. Thats all he ever said till he got there. Rose while other kids played, young lewis drove. In only his second year racing gokarts, hamilton became the champion of britain. Anthony hamilton and its like, hang on. Lewis can become a british karting champion with his father as mechanic, then the world is his oyster. Rose and what did you know t nothing. Rose Anthony Hamilton had to teach himself racing so he could then teach his son. He worked as a computer manager for the railroad, but he took on odd jobs to finance lewis dream. Father and son spent hundreds of hours here at the rye house kart track in a suburb north of london. What does rye house mean to you . Lewis hamilton rye house was my school. Rose and the most important lesson was when to brake. You helped him appreciate the Anthony Hamilton yes. Rose that happened on this track. Anthony hamilton yes, absolutely, absolutely. That very corner over there. Rose yes. Anthony hamilton . Right on the bend. He learned to brake later, harder, and keep the speed on the gokart. Lewis hamilton the best drivers were braking here, and he would make me brake later than them. Rose and that contributed to your dominance . Lewis hamilton yes. And it still does today. Rose young Lewis Hamilton was so dominant, he got his first pro contract at 13. Despite the success as the only black familyn hamiltons did not always feel welcome at the track. Lewis hamilton yeah, i mean, i had parents come to me, other drivers parents would come up to me and be sort of, you dont belong here. Go back to wherever you came from. Rose so what does it say about you that you survived all that and became the World Champion . Lewis hamilton my dad would always say, do your talking on the track. So i get on the track and id hamiltons won their first World Championship in formula one, the wheels came off their relationship. Lewis no longer wanted his father to be his manager. Lewis hamilton so it was a point where i was like, dad, i just want you to be my dad. And that was incredibly hard for him to take, and it was hard for me to. To be able to do it. It had to be a hard break at the time. Rose and how hard was it for him to take it . Lewis hamilton that bridged a gap between us that was, like, the grand canyon. E racing . Lewis hamilton absolutely. Yeah. Rose disappointing results mounted, as did crashes, like this one in the 2011 belgian grand prix. Hamiltons father was convinced his absence was a factor. Anthony hamilton i couldnt understand it. What do you mean you dont need me . So that hit me pretty hard. But it was. It was probably the best thing, you know. Hes not a boy anymore. He wasnt a kid anymore. Rose what would you do different . Anthony hamilton my desire for him to be so successful took me over from being the father to more manager. And thats probably the thing i would. Rose you wish youd stayed more father. Anthony hamilton yeah. But if id have stayed the father, i. He probably wouldnt have been as successful. Rose four years after their professional split, Lewis Hamilton won his second World Championship in abu dhabi. Prince hargr prince harry lewis, well done. Youre an absolute legend. Rose and waiting in the gage was Anthony Hamilton. No longer a manager, now just a proud dad. Lewis hamilton what he did for me, i can never pay him back. The only thing i can do is make sure that every time im in the car today with the opportunity that hes helped create get and give me, ive got to grab it with both hands and never take it for granted. How good does that sound, lewis three times World Champion . Greatest moment of my life. Rose hamilton clinched his third World Championship this past october in austin, texas, at the u. S. Grand prix. Now managing himself, he claims to be the happiest hes ever been. We believed him, not because of something he said, but because of the way he drove. Lewis hamilton the way i drive, the way i handle a car is an expression of my inner feelings. laughter rose oh, boy. I hope youre enjoying this as much as i am. Lewis hamilton i have the best job in the world. Rose go, man, go. Midway through the current 2016 season, Lewis Hamilton entered field to become World Champion. 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Announcer they concocted a man to keep michelle. Stay. If james uses the care package he gets to block out two votes which means i only need three votes to get zakiyah out. As they got james on board. I want her to stay. Natalie and bridgette want to keep michelle its a game changer. Its time start a pot, shake it up and play big brother. After paulie was told he cant be now that i see he definitely doesnt have my back, im peed and guess what, friendship is out of the window. He was in to flip the votes. Canceling out my vote. Youre canceled. And corey, put your big boy pants on. Before the eviction, julie dropped a bomb on the house. The night you have all been anticipating is here