100 percent have a when the gentleman came to the stays with you know me and it's a lot of energy Tony's in the wrong key I hear a lot of family affair there was you know was that what you are intentionally going for and when I'm Panesar Oh yeah right 101 of them a call for that you know I mean any inmate if welcome or if none at all Couple time on tracks I'll find anything I can come to a low res I can keep that is on point but don't agree well created by Ali One Tribe Called Quest for all just think about it. We there you go in day are bad and of course we gotta talk about slow wan. Mamie amendment in the studio her with a phone call bottling it up. What are you saying oh my god it's got to be a take somewhere around it's got that it was a while Party in the studio about the whole point of hysteria Well I do pretty much and yeah and as I stand that song was recorded in radio in Trinidad right well finished and then started out by a cool guy called the whole night on boy they brought in a production out of I and Hampton took them connect Well Thomas in. Ok and they were happy I'm feeling. He. Licked. His lips and. Money for what I want to fam k p f a Thomas j. D. Minor Let's talk music here with the Wayne Wiggins that is slow time from the sun the solo album and one that's such a masterpiece it sounds like you spent some time developing that song How long did it take oh let it all down because they came in spurts you know I mean it would start if you go Went To me up and down in fact no matter where we're in family and have a studio and then we got the deal going to turn around so we took all the tapes all of the shrine of the same. Like my girlfriend that was another mc I had a that was that we mixed up with a bow came carefully bless his heart and soul came cats who are the engine it must be my girl brain that's my jam right there me having a reality about someone falls on top of all I'm always struck I'm in a record sorry for it the song before Ray they got back from lunch when they came back with that a look and they find the song somewhere else just what I feel you know me. Just mention you know the look at self is just a killer you know when you think about it Mamta striven out it's funny how life comes in full circles because it talks about coming back all the way from I remember being in Pittsburgh Emma South seen a new one from Tony telling come at a time of the sun the sun 1st came out that if I had no the and at the time that Tony Tony Tony revival I was my favorite RB album and adesa to get was my favorite rap album and so to hear when I had if I know the name but you can do Jack's playing I want him put it on the on to the song. On his idea for you in the sample for the ice cube sample on it if I know the brother we met for l a j. M D's any. Good mates and don't think he won their weekly to be good to me that I was really starting to the touch base with really incorporating a Dr in the show you know the sample that's moving in that we learn about the samples and you know what beautiful that was business. That was the energy driver kind of a can it feels good for that album but then of course you had you had they had a my pillow on and one which has to go down in the top 5 of all time are the songs for those all administered by about you know. Baby thoughtout. Like the. Girl. You know I mean man that is such a great song that intro some else I remember one time I was sitting and I had at Mitsubishi Eclipse back in the day I was parked outside of what was a liquor stores get a lottery ticket there was a beauty shop next door and I had 2 twelve's in the back my clips act turned as song on and I just happened to be backing out and looked in the Beauty Shop and there were about 7 or 8 women just what the they had to screw face on you know when your face gets tight when u.s. Song this. And I was going to say that song has done wonders where they go It's weird Now this is one of my favorite guitar intros on a song of all time they had a my pillow right here and then a 4 point one k. P.f. 8 let's talk music. They had on my pillow from the sun's a solo album on 94 point one f.m. Cape get fade this is less told music now the way in now even in the prizes are you working on the sun's a solo album with the Tonys I know you continue to work with other artists I know you worked with artists called blue that was on multiple records yeah I did that come about because that brother was so full Oh I don't want another artist entirely that one ball look in the group and all if I had to do older and older or more Mom build and but I have to be our own and everybody stay there Ok I'm going to auction up and do. You know up show I will work with a program drum machine and a lot of think about. It cannot know when I'll. Actually meant to be another article called but Motown one of the and he were very thoughtful and difficulty when there's a happening and what I've called Person. Working with the group and all that but it got difficult once the money was ready so I thought Fine I've learned in business if money is ever a problem we can't work it would be a problem you know what back to late one has been made to work with me who was really at one of the top of the lily I could say Yeah the problem is she was she was really a person I would keep me focused but she would have the granite they had just go to class and call up and get somebody else that fit that description that had the soul and just by chance she brought their young brother Byron to the. Big Brother after he had all maybe a 10 gallon. You know he was real Las real neatly dressed as a lot of power and just thought if they are allowed to voice in on the mother things we can with the name but I had a brother named Alfie a mom you say you saw black in blue. Blue. Dog on the blue. We defense all going to get back to the thing we came up with she. Clapped. My Lady. So that's how they deal happened in Motown they write I deliver. Relationships that you have a Motown at that time did it have any influence on you eventually going to Motown and recording your solo album maybe I didn't think of it in that line I just know that I could all Massenburg at that time was there to make an impression you know I had something that I was doing which is at our we move forward strange Not situation in Oakland and the police and I felt like I was normally some independent because it was more and you know I have a message and that song still makes sense that I sang true without this fire Bob Billie Holiday's as my situation itself directly inspired Lee put that out they heard it I had sent him a lot of music for other people to do and I Young the boy's mother was over there all that flotsam a bunch of new. And he called me back saying they want us to uphold the law I don't think about that I want to try to say well what if I give you a day off they will come on to me some had made some sense from dollars. Came about he was there to make a statement and he did show me a lot because I was thinking about being a solo artist but got something to say is bigger than just the music you've got to go out there face not definitely a definite want to indulge more into that I want to also go back to the sound the soul of women in kind of rap in that campaign. In a quiet moment. I gotta tell you one thing man I love my Aquarius is man Mom our cousin was one of my best friends man he's a man I mean we live more like brothers Marcab his cab home brother to tomorrow where his brothers one of my favorite choirs is so you know you know what that is man. With making an album you know so you know blue doing that do what Motown was there for and I don't know it may lead into that but at that time it was different staff it was Joan's only deal with the people I had the management I came from doing stuff that was how I structured a definition of a fellow on a real honest that's how they were going on that one because I had been perhaps but again dealing with a whole lot of more knucklehead mist and dealing with some people that came to me were really o.b.l. And they were younger than everybody will sell them then I went to simply. On Fox Fox The only people on Fox all of her and and Jamie Fox I remember him and they're all there when they stand on the. Music side. How many would. Have Anyway I thought I saw a lot of that stuff at the same time when I don't know Ok and our business was with Fox and that was t.v. . They decide they want to music and to want her but if you look at our own show on this show that away and other McCulloch other 11 caller Yeah I mean when you sell the car and I can't remember the name. That's right that's why we here don't talk about their hugely big. Let me know. We're just going to. Hear you saw good it's all good that's why we're here you know it's there and we got we got you with the sun so I was such a success and musically it was just each deafly idea just sells I must say and at that time you had a lot of bands out there that were really cranking out the music it was you guys yeah low key you had Make a date. And yeah shy you had a lot of bands moment you can you grew up going to be some of the let me tell you how to go. Yeah maybe put a dancer in there and she was a young way that you could dance. And 1st go. Bald is able to fall and beautiful body whatever who are peace could deliver entertaining Wife Swap with her and click and many would open it up to groups like a 530 or whatever else. And they were coming off like some bob marley is also told we go as you know I mean a great mix and I was my vision back then to see a group that I just couldn't like from Paula because really Les Stan Well yeah you're right about that music scene as it is you know everybody was just was doing a thing and by any chance did you recognize a lot of those groups that they have any influence on you whether being as a Tony Tony Tony situation or just the way in Wiggins production situation any of them had their influence on you. Yeah a lot of. Time. You know I mean working with him in the early stage before he blew up you know him we mix in the song we even give it a real mix a label to prove. A this will do the. Gospel shuffle day and chart that to something they didn't see it no problem that's just something we know about with this you know networking with the quality touches a little bit. With the roots back in the day and I was just all of them formations . So you were Templin around time he was in the basement with the van to all men the very early stages the stuff I got was for things he did I really liked. When we did the song you have been to leave and the 1st thing popped in my mind is there really makes a difference. But there's a mass of somewhere somebody else know. So we. And. There was a couple years that went by before we had got another Tony Tony Tony album from you guys which will be House of Music and house music and what was happening with Dwayne Wade and at that time was I know you have been working with other artists and Old him head artists Olin going off and doing you know other productions with people like yourself so where if any where there are any creative differences at this particular time going into that particular house of music and what a lot of the difference the start and then simply because they probably had 2 different ideas of what we saw my thing I've only envisions the band live to take on a role we can have ownership with and make sure we develop properly. Which is lead to me as I wanted to incorporate and trademark What were the brand I think that's why we still get there early and I continue to live bring it with the next you know I'm going to blow on mine show me how you can focus. Show me how you can respect you know from the high to the low and developing order Ok so that's what makes. The difference to me I love what I didn't know I was going to the Forever I ever. Thought. I think there myself I got it right right learn as much say as folks can go party much harder absolutely celebrate this life at this point for me I'm just saying absolutely going into that house music album and there never said their heads are spun off in that light let's get down and work with g.m. Line and quick. And on the level and we had thinking of you which had a remnants of Al Green in going today as we guys China go for that our green energy a minute let me just tell you that song was something that was created at the early for the morning type as we came up on the studio working with the mail for that particular route and that was that studio what. Made the green guitar and whatever else and we just came out with a group that night and I forgot all about that you know. We did and raised in the basement in Sacramento and Curtis Sliwa you know we had a cool unique situation set of down the. Record and I forgot all about that track but like months and months later we're shooting albums shot off of Sunset and l.a. Play music and I play the song and I'm listening to it unless I say that's. A memory that groove I remember a certain sound we started out as a certain way whatever but he had finished it and put lyrics on top of it but I really think I'm good if I can remember everything it was but I know what I mean they give me your number but the point is that that song came on the last song and it said that album was something we didn't even write for that I was just something we just jammed. With for the morning and that magic in the end. Spirit of Al Green would want me to work on that I better have to go that far because you cannot move in here you know let me in there thank you I'm going to go oh sorry you know that out with me I would probably feel entirely to go away and I'm sure but their whole base would love it and there was no my bubble going up because if you gave you that right you. Filed. a few favorites on there and he made the holy smokes and she was a personal favorite of mine as you had 3 wagons 3 Wigan's brother is Singhalese amazing no my brother Randy Wiggins and I try to get it down with every now and Bell and all because he is the one that inspired us mostly you know back in the day was in school you know in my brother's good form they were saying the Stylistics and I sit there and watch them 2 hours of just vocal herself in the garage and you know the structure this the that's everything else the stuff everything else you know so a lot of that Tony's vibe comes from that benches we get. Caught up in with Oakland when I watch movies like among my family and they know well exactly that it was your brother and I know it was another song that you guys I did the Jason lyric soundtrack I just like my papa. My dad saying you know now and stays how I got him saying on that one it was like all the song we just talk about come on you know you know all the smoke so he was always yes there that was no a crazy moment either. But anyway you know it's not easy with a creative because I grew up listening to the Stylistics and type of stuff you know I'm edge of by golly Wow great writing back and then the creed of going to all time bail or you saying you don't go ahead and created but the ones that way but it's still that and bring it all for stylistic shy life that was tough you know I mean so that's what that song with a tribute to and then my brother man who just came in and painted that picture on that song Smoke and she were something personal and it was family and then when I go to the cycle of poverty the way that was created was something called because I had a trip where that instant you know the saying is part really you thought he was laying on a ruffle my brother Raphael he didn't know. You know what I can think of that revenue Ray would put him down like that and evil I know you got to do like this I have to argue with him to get a thing that will. Later heard of the song is like you kill me like damn right. That's right because we were never do you know me that I was now that song was performed on Soul Train and was that the only performance with your brother Randy and your dad yet. Another great song you know me I like to perform it all the time with Leo She's just that one phone because that. Serious bridge and our family time the music around feels a lot of time with our family like that enough why of course and for kids of all we ever know and all that ever was with music every damn where a lot of energy a lot of action but you know we have much but we had everything yet and that's what I like about life that's what that song means to me that was on a days later when you guys were also on the black man united with the u.n. That was well yeah I did actually do the studio choir but I did a show that is pretty talk at once I have learned a lot from that is the backstage stuff of all those different personalities making one song come together. Wow Yes our out of town it was different the look our general yes Stokely while their parents. Gave me and I had to literally watch all of them saying like all to look at them but I guess it is that you speak of Stokely allows the plea I must say to add never I would love to see Nick edition and the Tonys battle it out I've always wanted to see it. And I think I don't know yet you know all of them and they all are together they are crazy energy and just the most valid they're really still because the game needs you know I mean he said he went on his own a little bit I mean even though it's a different world you know me he. Although he did it he may go on or may not but he's still down to screw up with things like and that's what makes him to me Oh yes I am ever seen you guys before me was on the show to Sinbad evilly was was hosting the only time that I have actually seen the Tony to make addition perform together was was on that particular show the name of it escapes me but the guys have performed feels good and I was like it was dull to see make edition back in the Tonys of an It was like all playing together and to me of all that they are one group that makes me feel like you know that they won the group for not their focus was a Count doll that they all take given that they are they have support in the art that is one no joke so you know me they make me feel like those back in the day the talent show days where you can be proud of that you can be and you gotta keep that edge so yes we do show them it always was Ok we don't say well but it's down to that you know me we got a lot of hits. And then they go back to like House of Music and again I mean it was a good album it was a good album myself when I heard that of them I was. Definitely it definitely sounds like this like one battle here and you have another band on the other side of albums. So pretty much complete that Adam was it pretty much like we knew or you guys knew that this is going to be the last time Tony Aveling. That went entirely right there with the biggest learning lesson wall. Because a lot of money a figure that people would not understand let me just say that. The build out the biggest case with fire or you know I mean they just move in that was way. Out in the sticks and another cave everything and make sure that everything is documented properly but anyway so that was a great learning only what I'm doing Tony Tony Tony but I was producing. If I missed out so I had a deal over at Sony that was huge and I had a great deal of universal a lot of change it was a lot of change the way people thought that point up not about a 4 hour cable anticipating going solo but there are a lot of people on board going about what it was but we have a business plan and that things differently right and stay the brand on simply because I was being on the Breaking Bad you know learning from Illinois where now look at Mother Jewish and there I know the biggest thing that groups have a problem with that they don't structure that says you don't businesses you don't have a business agreement. A contract ban agreement some samples from that will keep some sort of order with people or they won't do that the way I think that's one big problem we have to moving forward. And I thought I learned that an hour ago I have a production mean about what Tony's only telling you doing and then I go have a Sony meeting with toys a lot of their And all the big wigs their phony Mapi all them about the real ness of what was real big number of them big people come in and look at this like this too easy there's not a factual This is too much it's not clear so I noticed there was another order with things I just know that there was energies towards being more separate and coming together so I I did look at how to structure things and wait later to make sure the timing how many would prevail whatever what was around because now with the score by a certain time period and you can never take that away. Rush you let someone take it away so you know I mean that's a lot of bags and now with 96 now put that together as a magazine. One thing I was doing that was our goal from up to the old house of music and I drive down to Sacramento attempts have a studio way with the Arden so and I bring my whole camp I bring our Bill and Karen White who have a deal over at Warner Brothers I had them I have. Man I had deals all over the place but I had a good system I had my own engineer so we foiled who've been with me 27 years and people we understood it industry level how to turn it around a little spot we would understand how to bring groups from other places like Houston Texas and how to develop internists a real business and in time. The house music Avenue eventually you had when I was a Motown and yet the you have recorded your 1st solo album which is totally under rated in my opinion. Never lie of a. Phenomenal album and yet mentioned earlier you were interested in being a solo artist. And you had a song with a strange vocalist from the situation with the polies also you know all their. Poetry Scott. Lawsuit I bought up against the police I just felt like I had something to say to the public and that's why they That's right I'm not have 2 of you my talking about the interview in a police officer. I had a situation I was in the studio at the court night and the area and I took a break and went to this little studio not of the. Cap a lounge and it was caught Dorothy's locker and they had poetry on this night so I. Took a break I want all then at that point I had the drill in the whole book she looked like a 1000 fun having a nice bottle of water with this stuff and then i will happen to be a journalist who happened to be a poet artist at the time and the poet is also a MacArthur or is it started in the sense that out that it came from it was recognize what was and got that off the list but had he not it was death even from entirely different. And that's what it was and I. A lawsuit against them I had. A nice attorney at Oakland and you know I did my thing and it made a lot of noise but I felt like the music was going to be more of a weapon that's why did that track. Same time I'm a man over there because I'm at Sumburgh or the other music and that he offered me an album and stuff I thought was a demo for other artists. Well I recall that situation going down in. That one of my hero my way or hero Davey d. When he announced that on his show I woke up the next morning I was giving his all about the oh you are what you saw him yeah I always heard. That the power of media that was finite there yeah I mean one of our Bay Area heroes and harassed by the police we had that was going to make big you know I mean our water bottle really. Made be allowed to touch for what they would call and you know driving while black or profile that I was out of touch with because I've been on a roll call and see that walk that line Wow Probably fossils with me when I was 16000 saying that the calf will not follow whatever up have always. You go home and never say no but now I'm a grown up and it changes what feel. I thought it happened. But I had a lot of support from the community and a lot of people that came to that they were supporting me that made me aware of things I want to feel Michelle Alexander out they do not think I was when I worked with directly and I know she wants now and I know the change she's making you know man for a lot of experience the music is just the backdrop and I love it and again with that I never lab I mean again I was truly classic I mean you co-wrote a song with Jamie Foxx let's make a baby. Like a baby can't get out the music in West Oakland you know a lot is you know a lot of stuff I'll tell you from the other deal be difficult you know that that happened that with the world was that he just created magic down and just left and I was like oh I stuck with it and then brought the other quad to it and here we go they were Carlos Santana with all it to me with him about his tour and when a jab at oh about before is put out when he was just creating that Maria Maria for that of the other tracks that we jam and I want to meet him there are 5 or 15 minute meeting and it kind of jam if I like to the police more hours in his lab if I may add fill out my guitar show the markets are show me is to me in the back row studio and then he called the chest the times and Tim was on drums and we've got a song we did together it's just simply jamming bills from now. On they had their Us rocker you derelict on there when Misha cargo we we hung out and there we do and that's what came out of that one we cut it in Chicago some college for right I think got on stage and everything that happened on that they want the young gentleman from Australia you know the age and young brother we were all to so I was not a lot of the title that was you know it's not my intended for an Australian artist you know perfectly to lay it out. And just as amazin and. Songs that you had never attended to be on a solo album became a solo album for you. And we're still awaiting what has taken so I missed away again to a man I've got this track idea would be back in the day that she was gone so are the lives of hurt her knee when she recorded that in the studio on a lunch break in Texas and. You know I mean I've always been like you know she was for a time with stuff you know at that age and timeless music is timeless music no pun intended because I am doing a movie called Timeless only that will get it so that at some point. Saying that I've been blessed to be able to be on a lot of dull talent in the building with Alicia Keys the way we got down in the music you know I mean when I see her driving the focus I faced of different when I see Keisha call when I think. You know me when I see the girl her I say different I was just one in the irony and in Alabama we had a lead moment speaking about that like wow we cool all of this beautiful talent on all this which means a lot around us no but we recognize it now speaking of that a lot of kids especially younger cats know b.r.c.a. As Jay Z's wife and obviously to the superstar she is now a lot of people don't know that you you were originally instrumental in getting them started how did it come about that you started to work with Destiny's Child from jump well comment beyond things you've not you know or borrow your poor gentleman that was to do to know that they had a girls group there was maybe 6 of them and some years later I guess you know I'm going to go to the studio I thought control them on the one next to the whatever happened. Later on all the time if that's a session I don't know they've been going through something like that and they were dealt with at that time although experience that they want to deal with the father call me not to call me on the phone I remember the conversations like a minister says the session. Well you remember me on the new whatever happened with the group which are doing you know play set me a tape nose of a tape. And I was like call them back as I came out last week that's not no 13 and 14 year old Ok not stupid and you sent me a v.h.s. Play that my wall isn't on studio saying it and the music was dope that's how we went into it I was already doing deals my team was right in on that dope attorneys you know the same one that was represented face and it was easy for me to structure all I do is bring the talent I had the machine well so you gotta move You got I'm a staff member no one in a career but I was thankful because by far as I was learning from them 100 percent what if you know the way the father did business they would Buntay it on stuff they were the Quaids learning opportunity of my life believe that learning how to be a team player and then the leader of the organization being a better leader than a better a follower type of a bone I learned to the whole game so I was able to move the group from Texas to Oakland wow them in the house and that was in 96 on the leg 6 that will not was before you know what the whole show. The real world you know that whole the whole house and I just know this was in 96 that's what they were. And I had to deal with the manager will have to deal with the label at the sun on a lot of things. You know I'm dealing with why a clip to deal with whoever. It was a lot of business that had the structure at the same time dealing with timing Antoni. Gaudi trademark and branding this if you don't have that you don't have. Your struggle and he did mouthing off. Father and I started looking at how to operate my business like the other people operate at least attempting at least in the bar up there. And that's what I learned from them because I had to not only make sure that the studio session work with an order that I reply at the right to address so that homeschoolers the I had learned that back then I was like if I have a kid she make sure they get this right here because that's one a one is Acacia you know but the 2 are coming to the pad teaching all for them so they will get to live in direct we go through the latest burn and I was to be in on May Now they introduce an old school with an orchestra somebody asked. The 1st song we ever did came out in 97 and it was on the Man in Black soundtrack so I have warmed up in way before the album came out with that knowing. So I mean but that was my. That was my learning lessons to just be a great team player and that's how you create a star and make sure you can put together the right just team that you believe in Indy and with that said you eventually you know some unnamed you had mentioned Mike you should Colin. And then town where I was doing the choice in the alley casual living in the house and music I was all clear at the same time when the early sixty's came out when Michael Malden introduced me to her and that happened you know I mean so. Just that the backdrop of all that business as well still. And in all inning you are asleep developing your kids pub life. As well me deal with Beyonce and the whole Destiny's Child thing all of them. It gave me an opportunity to see how to raise my daughter. In a way and I said I wasn't pushing her in the music I think she could have pushed into it but she didn't and I mean this you know it's a family business at this point and but the point is that I look at it from that angle. Then all my sons came up you know they always had instruments around the house or amplifiers guitars whatever. The machine strum said whatever so they come up with the energy and then just say and operate on one song gravitated toward the piano since the age of $5.00 and $6.00 and to manage to be as he had become really basically with it and by the end of that commitment what is he the center watching our conversation with Santana and he was to follow a watch you know maybe belong with the family and that it was the Tonys are still going and the commitment behind it just you don't own people saying it like in the end what they're. Just kind of like. Family business I'm not the cafe on only got that cap a cause I wanted to know more club. They came to me the club so that I think that cafe was one of the greatest learning lessons and 99 for me. You know I was that was the place where my mom had took me and she said take me there and then just in all of the artists and all the people who were right on the walls and that was a place where my mother as she would get us back is my mom and my mom writes poetry so that was a place that she would like to go to you know and just to get away. With all of that going how about we have opportunities just from that. One thing it's all out there for information now that the grandson. Is about to the next level brought down to keep this the found out about it and then of course we get a you got you guy gets a grand baby and you got Jammin out shows his air engineer all of them examined not so that would take. One Up us then jamming us on him doing the show they don't like they're already doing it I mean people know what they believe they are really doing it. Really. Takes me back to when I thought it was starting to get turned on the Jimi Hendrix you know me. I've seen I've seen him perform live and. They got it is . In a show form over they met last summer meaning they put it there they bought it they bought it and educated. Had taught them. The lumber Koosman out feeling really proud about you know me I've been expanding my way over to Atlanta you know about to go over to Donna makes a movie maybe South Africa but I've been working on some things because I need to make this connection on Fox Let's get connected with the homeland and bring it back on a whole nother. Definitely and and then you've got the current lineup of Tony tying Tony happening now and. Had. These elaborate on that. Man something that I want to leave alone I have to say your copy manager and put on it I believe it really build up the history of who we are why we feel the folk with all these newcomers coming to the Bay Area but it's happening everywhere all over the world right now it was just coming in and you know doing their thing in that respect and while we while we had to sweat a lot of well the feel company while we felt you know proud because we did a lot of developing over many years so. I just believe in continuing to uplift. Than I picture over. You talked earlier in a show about she's got a show that Yoshi's issue when Lincoln went to somehow brothers from the Bay Area on the come check out. December the 13th to the summer of 60. I will do 2 shows a night so it won't be a total bill putting together all of the you know she's go they gave me freedom to expand and develop what I want to do next year so. I'm excited about that I am thoroughly and we've been doing this going on the 10 probably so it's become. You know an annual thing that's a blessing. Nonprofit is calling you a check it out you they nonprofit or do a lot of a lot in the community a 6 week summer camp. On Jack is a winner of season with on the avenue you know off one way we're going to do a lot a lot more involved this year but it would help me make it to the ocean shelf of those on go and buy some people and. Have a good time I absolutely and we will definitely be there for that no doubt we will definitely be there and just again it you know one of the things about you doing that I love is that you know you are you are truly a community ambassador and you know me the things that you've done in done for the community have been just beyond the call of duty. Man Likewise you can boast and then believe in us the. Love the love and you make a movie always come on the point of Blow thank you well you know this is your life . This is definitely you know time you get it whenever you want to come on you've got some new stuff you want to run by you want to just come on. Without something we did with our power play of the dog we will tell how actually the whole of this stuff a 1000000. Because they'll yell namely just tell you they came in a neighbor who wanted a best song it's really peaches. Dyson the singer really bitches they want to you know boy will sing and all that they deliver the business and then allow the track it's called seize it and it's a beautiful classic We had the opportunity to put those horns on and it's magic That's up next I think on the thing that to then tell you you know I mean. You can let me know Ok absolutely So tell me what I can find on a tiny tiny tiny love of a like a for your identification media where they whenever they want to post in a we have my Facebook page of course muesli things I have to say that we still will be keeping private he's alive. Your believe in the whole no let me get to. The top we all released on them probably through our website and a couple of other media channels I want people to stay listen we don't we'll correct it and get everything tight while we do you know she's a number for you make sure you go out and check out that yes you show it to about one of the best groups to come out in history and definitely one of the best out of the Bay Area long story history hona down for the opening scene we gotta tell you Tony Tony this is the way Wiggins founder. Guitarist vocalist just the man myth the legend when the Tao So I have you. Named Thomas let me say. You know the culture. Makes a man appreciate it a lot thank you man and again this is your program and when ever you need whenever you have an art is just music that you want to get out this is the program that you can add that don't ever get empty chair How do you want to come in and kick it. Back up all I mean definitely and like Thomas say you got to see way no way near for you so you know whenever you want to get down there you let us know Ok All right you. Are feeling that day. You too a that's going to do it for us here let's talk music with Thomas j. And d. Minor You can follow us on Instagram at let's talk music be. A crane we craft fair k.p.s. Face 48th Annual Gathering of creative people and their ardent supporters will take place December 22nd and 23rd at the crane weight Pavilion in Richmond where parking is free and there's a free shuttle from the Richmond art station doors open at 10 am each day. 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