They were assassinate and targeted for uniform for the duties they embrace of keeping the city safe. And keeping the policy against cuba. This is an illusion. Not everybody is happy. I will be joined by florida senator and possible president ial candidate marco rubio. Joining us are chris matthews, and former Bush White House director chris fagan and former white hou white hou white house spokesman bill richardson. This is meet the press with chuck todd. I will be talking about the e sony attacks, but first, two men shot at point blank range saturday afternoon killed while simply sitting in their pale troll cars. Police commissioner William Bratton the and mayor william de blasio called it an assassinati assassination. The man started by shooting a girlfriend in baltimore who is recovering in a hospital. Social posts from the gunman pointed to the actions being related to the deaths of Michael Brown and eric garner. And members of new York Police Department turned their backs on mayor de blasio as he walked to the hospital last might. And a former new York Police Department officer joins us. Let me get your reaction to the Benevolent Police officer president and here is mr. Lynch. Are there is blood on many hands tonight. Those who incited violence on the street under the guise of protest protests, and that blood is on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. And now, mr. Adams before i get your reaction, let me reed the mayors statement, it is unfortunate that in a time of great tragedy that some would respond to heated rhetoric, and mayor deplauz what owe knows that this is the time to come together to the families of the brave officers that new york lost last night and the entire nypd. And now, first to the charges of mr. Lynch, what is your are response to it . First of all, our hearts goes out to the family. And in addition to that, the bullets strikes the body of a police officer, the path raises many concerns. But this is not about one voice, but the voice of the entire city crying out for unity, and crying out of saying, how do we come together and deal with the real issues in policing and at the same time protect the city. I wore a bulletproof vest for. 2 years to protect city and i know how trying and difficult these times are. We have had protests and heated rhetoric and do you believe it contributed to this . No, not at all. I believe we can not mix the two. Those who were calling for the Police Reform were not calling for the police retribution, and they were not calling for harm to police and we cannot allow someone to get in the way of moving towards Police Reform. Blood is not on the hands of the mayor. The blood is on the hands of the sick person who took the life of two Innocent Police officers, and innocent people should not die in america. It does not matter if they are wearing a Police Uniform or a threepiece suit, innocent people should not die in america, and we are better than what we are seeing. Now is the time for adults to stand up and decide the direction. Two weeks ago we were talking about trust issues in the Africanamerican Community and trust issues. And today, we are going to to to be talking about trust issues between the Law Enforcement and the mayor of new york city, and how do you fix that trust issue . That is not the issue. The Police Officers of new york city are professionals and they will get up and do their job. Just as we saw when the World Trade Centers collapsed, they got up and did their job. We cannot allow other methods in the way of policing will think that the men and women who wear the blue uniforms as Law Enforcement officers are going to move away pr that. That assassination was not an attack on individuals, but it is at a tack on the beliefs in Public Safety, and with e are n allow an attack on Public Safety in america. And you wrote an oped that said we cannot allow the police abuse of black men. Are you concerned that any Reform Efforts that people are talking about when it comes to Law Enforcement, the grand jury process, that Something Like this is going to be halted eed its tracks . No. We will reach the point where civil rights marches are going to be in the street, and this is where the caribbean and the spanish americas and people of all ethnicity are saying that america vetted in the violence a that we are seeing, and vetted in the lack of Police Reform, and so i dont believe that anything is going to derail that. With we wont let the sick mind of one individual to get into the way of creating a sim bee y symbiotic relationship between the Law Enforcement, and the community. Thank you for coming on meet the press this morning. I appreciate your time. Thank you. And now the news that has dominated the press this week, the Cyber Attacks on sony. And this when there was a movie by seth rogen about a plot to assassinate kim jongun, he could not have anticipated the fact was stranger than the fiction. And it is the Box Office Smash of the year despite that the public has not seen it. We cannot have a society in which some dictator some place can impose sensorship some place. And the president called out sony for catering to the demands of hackers. We have not caved this in, and we have persevered and we have not backed down. What started as a Hollywood Comedy has turned into an international crisis. And president obamas comments concluded that north korea was behind the hacking. It is is a wakeup call that north korea has this capability. We have no real policy to handle this. And it says Something Interesting about north korea that they decided to have the state mount an allout assault on a movie studio because of a satirical movie starring seth rog rogen. The cia would love it if you wo could take him out. Huh . Take him out. What . For drinks . I wish they had spoken to me first. I believe they made a mistake. I did reach out to speak to senior folks in the white house. We do not own Movie Theaters, and we cannot determine whether or not a movie will be played in Movie Theaters. Stars burned up. And ben stiller said, i cannot believe. This and rob lowe compared him to hitler. And i cant believe that this is rolled over to north korea. And clooney i waited until hitler was dead. I dont foe how crat know how , so i want you to stop talking about him. I believe the audiences can choose what they want to see. And we did not say boston could not run the marathon because somebody might cause harm. And the sony president of Legal Affairs who also represented al gore in his lawsuits, and so, lets start with the Statement Released by s sony, because they said, david, they said they had no choice. But david, they had a choice, but they chose not to release it, correct . Is. Well, not really. You cant release a movie unless you have a distribution channel. The theaters with were subject to threats of physical violence against the theaters and against their customers. And quite understandably a large number of them a majority of them decided not to show the picture when it was scheduled. When that happened, sony had no alternative. Nobody was stepping up in the three weeks with when sony fought the issue by itself, and nobody, and maybe George Clooney and a few people like that, but none of the second guessers out there saying, oh, what a terrible thing this is, none of them were stepping up to help sony then. And actually, the president is quoted this morning in an interview that he taped friday, but new this morning, he is saying that had coney k sony co him, he would have called the distributors and pushed h them to air the movie . Well, i was not there this the white house and you heard in the introductions that sony did talk to senior people h in the white house, and the decision is made, and we have to move beyond who is responsible, because this is a statesponsored criminal attack on a private corporation can and its employees. If the nsa had invaded somebody like this, the people would have been outrage and north korea does it and couples it with threats, and people sit back while sony fights h this on its own. We have to use the president s are recognition of the importance the of this issue as a rallying cry so that all americans can unite against what is really a threat to the National Security, and if statespons statesponsored criminal acts like this can be directed against sew manyny, k against can be directed against anybody. You are saying statesp statesponsored acts instead of terrorism, so if you use that, you are looking for cover on this, and are you looking for that ruling . I am not looking for criminal vandalism or terrorism, but we know it is a statesponsored attack the on the privacy of an American Corporation and its employees, and what sony is trying to do is to protect that privacy and get back what was stolen and asking everybody to cooperate in that and not to aid and abet with whether you call them vandals or criminals or terrorists or with whatever you call them, they are bad actors, and people should not be cooperating with them. Do you believe that sony be held liable if violence had occurred in a Movie Theater if violence had occurred in the showing of a movie . With well, i dont know, but if you have physical threats against peoples lives, and these threats with were public, and there was not anybody stepping up with these threats, oh, no, we will protect the public and make sure nothing happens there, and under those circumstances, whether it is a legal liability or not, you have to be very careful with peoples lives, and remember, sony only delayed this. Sony has been fighting to get this picture distributed, and it will be distributed. How it is going to be distributed, nobody knows quite yet, but it is going to be distributed. And what sony has been trying to do is to get the picture out to the public, but at the same time be sure that the rights of the employees and the rights of the mov moviegoing public are protected. Do you think that the laws need to protect corporations that are being attacked like this . Well, similar the 9 11 attacks, and we have to recognize that this is not a sony problem, but a National Security problem, and the government has to lead. The fbi has been terrific in this. They have been diligent, and unbelievably competent in helping to analyze and understand what the source of this attack was. Now, the rest of the government has to get behind it, and they have got to figure out a way to protect the National Security, because this is a National Security threat. I think that the president is beginning to reck miz that, and that is a good thing, but now we have to have some actions following from the words. Do you think that the president s comments were helpful the to you friday to you . I think it was helpful in m some respects, and helpful to have the president recognize publicly that this was an unacceptable attack that we cannot have statesponsored attacks e designed to sensor what we do here in the country. I would have liked to have seen it a little bit earlier, and i would have liked to have seen it without the sort of blame the victim aspect of it. But i think that the positive aspects of it where we are beginning to come together as a country, and are recognize this is a threat, i think that is positive. Thank you, david boyce, lead attorney for sony pictures. And now we have a panel from harold kumar and he also worked with president obama in the office of public engagement, and thank you for joining the are rest of the panel. And first, sonys decision as an actor, was it something that bothered you . First of all, thank you for having me, chuck. Yes, it did bother me, and i echo a lot of the sentiments that a lot of my colleagues in hollywood have had, and the folks at sony are our friends and coworkers and i cant imagine the horribly tough decision they were in and privacy of the records being released and the intellectual property, and at the end of the day, the president said that it sets a dangerous precedent and a tricky situation for somebody to say that their hands were tied, and i dont believe that is necessarily true, pause the exhibitors and other theaters that refused to show the movie, and they could have put it down on the having owned xbox and other ways to distribute, and they didnt. And there is some mocking of him, and is there some way that kim jongun was portrayed, and is that true . Well, i have not seen the if film, so you could argue in both way ways was the movie in good taste or poor taste, but that is the way of in harold and kumar escaping in Guantanamo Bay, and we had a fictitious george bush and is this in poor taste or not, a hand is the beauty of art and particularly in comedies like that, you can always have that conversation. And john meltie, welcome to meet the press and you have spent a lot of time covering hollywood h, and you wrote a defense of sony, and quite interesting to your followers that you defended sony in delaying the release. It is not up to sony to fight north korea, and that is the governments job and they kept the product viable and it is not a good precedent if you are threatened by a Foreign Government to squander a 80 million project. And as david boyce says, the government needs to make it as safe for people to make it safe for people to make movies as they are to fly against al qaeda and once the structures are put in place and shield against liability, then you can say, nanny, nanny, boo, boo, to north korea and it is a win. Chris matthews, the president was trying to protect american ideals and being the president of the United States, and then sony who is worried about sony. Imagine, and i like to flip the thing to think about how to think, and suppose that the president came on in the press conference and said with sony, i agree with them, and they had to pull the film. And regal refused to show it, he would have been part of the buckling, and he had to separate himself from the decision to do that and he had to be church hhill and not chamberlain, and that is his role. And sony had the profitmaking decision. A and the president stands for strength and confidence and what he could have done better and i like what he did friday and a couple of weeks before he could have said, we will find a way to indemnify the theaters, but we get on airplanes all of the time with the threats floating around and because the American People have to be resilient, and that is the number one role of the president , to be resilient. And there is still an active lawsuit against the airlines from 9 11. Yes and so indemnify is the big part of it. If you are sony, you think that congress is going to go there . Well, congress has to do something. You cant have american businesses being threatened by bullies around the world. And you know, the thing that is really scary is about this, look, as bad por sfor sony and free speech and the american institution, and imagine if it were the Financial Institution or the electric grid. You have been around the world, bill richardson, and you have been there, and you didnt think they were capable of this and you were skeptical. Skeptical, well, i dont know that the proof was conclusive, but i believe that you put them on the terrorism list, and you squeeze the cash so that the leadership of north korea cant get the money will through to a macao banks. And so the key here is china, and they have to press north kree ians to stop the cyberterrorisms and we have to get rid of the north korean hackers in china, and lastly the internet process in china for north korea needs to be shutdown. And we dont know if china will help us. And so if you are offered a penn script that you believe is going to be actors say, on one hand i want to be a part and this is fun is a tearize satireizing leader x or y, and do you want to be a part of sthit. Well, you can take the moral high ground and speculate, and this is something that actors deal with that you have something that might offend part of the population, and you know that people will protest outside of a theater, but few calls to pull down a film, and less that the theaters will do that. But it is a certainly not to this scale. Why are you one of the few to speak out . Well, you invited me, and i dont have a lot to say. Well, you know, George Clooney did not get anybody to sign publicly on the petition. Fear in hollywood . Well, fear, and i think confusion of what is going on. On what was it, wednesday when sony said they have no plans to release the film. And on friday, they said they might release it on demand and then saturday they pulled down all of social media, because i have six movies that have trail trailers on them, and the studios dont take them down, because they know there is longevity in it, and so there is fear and not that we are going to to be saying anything that will angerr our friends at sony or around the world. And thank you cal pen, and we will talk about Cyber Security and just how the government should respond to this attack. And what will with we do with corporate and Cyber Threats with our panel in a moment. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts, 800,000 hours of supercomputing tim