It doesnt register with me. The idea that he would make it until 86 years old is not is not something that i think is likely. Meanwhile, donald trump keeps his focus biden and the general election. He is grossly incompetent, has no idea what hes doing. Are biden and trump in a codepartment relationship . Do they need each other in order to succeed in 2024 . Ill talk to Vivek Ramaswamy, a republican entrepreneur running for the nomination. Disney versus desantis. Disney sues Governor Ron Desantis accusing him of retaliating against the company. I dont think the suit has merit. I think its political. Republicans are distancing themselves from the issue as the battle escalates. I do worry if this happens too many times businesses that are thinking about coming to florida are thinking maybe we dont want to go there. And border surge. The Biden Administration are bracing for a potential wave of migrants when the covid era policy ends in two weeks. It will not be open after may 11th. This is irresponsible. Will biddens new policy mack a difference . Ill speak to Alejandro Mayorkas. Trying to honor his legacy. Luke russert his written a new book about how he dealt with sudden loss of his dad sdwloo joining me for insight, yamiche alcindor. Former democratic senator from missouri, claire mccaskill, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles and lanhee chen, a fellow at the hoover institution. Welcome to sunday, its meet the press. From nbc news in washington, the long ofrunning show in television history, this is meet the press with chuck todd. A good sunday morning. It was ten years ago this very month that the socalled gang of eight rolled out an Immigration Reform pan that they believed could finally pass congress. We all wish we didnt have this problem, but we do and we have to fix it because leaving things the way they, thats the real am nest. I think 2013 is the year of Immigration Reform. It was not and the laws havent changed. Donald trump would launch his Political Campaign building his entire identity with the issue of being tough on immigration and tough on the worder. Decided to wall off the southern border and while the wall didnt materialize the deterrence at the border instituted policies that included separating Migrant Children from their parents and instituting the remain in Mexico Program which sent migrants back to mexico while seeking u. S. Asylum. Biden endorsed a sweeping immigration plan on his very first day in office, but the plan went nowhere even though democrats controlled both houses of congress at the time instead the immigration criticized a transit ban which would force some migrants to apply for asylum from their home countries. As biden runs for a second term the immigration issue which he never mentioned this week continues to be one of his toughest will cha efrjes. In 2021, more migrants crossed the southern border more than any year since 1960 and in 2022 the record was broken again. In two weeks title 42 that has aloud both the biden and trump administrations that expelled most migrants since march 2020 allegedly to prevent the spread of covid will expire and the u. S. Relationship with mexico, the government, that is, has perhaps never been war with the cooperation of the drug war at the lowest point, fentanyl with chemicals sourced from china is now the leading cause of death for americans between the ages of 18 and 49 from our friends from the washington post. The Biden Administration announced new steps to stem the migration including opening new centers in guatemala, creating a new program, and Alejandro Mayorkas acknowledged there would be a border surge, but he also said it does not mean more migrants should come. This propaganda is false. Let me be clear. Our border is not open and will not be open after may 11th. And secretary mayorkas joins me now. Welcome back to meet the press. Good morning, chuck. Before i start on this theres been a horrific executionstyle shooting down in texas. Authorities are now searching and theres a man hunt for someone who is armed and dangerous. I know youve been monitoring this. Dhs is monitoring this, what can you tell us about the alleged suspect francisco oropeza. I can assure you that Law Enforcement will deliver accountability. The case is an active one under investigation and i cant comment further. There is a question about his citizenship. He supposedly had they refer to it as a consulate card from mexico meaning he was here legally, but perhaps hed overstayeded . Chuck, i wont comment on it because it is an active case. The tragedy that occurred, you described it correctly just absolutely horrific. Our hearts go to the victims, the victims families, those children and well deliver accountability. Doey woo know if federal authorities are involved besides fbi and local authorities and is your Team Involved . Border patrol at all . We are monitoring the situation carefully and the fbi is the lead Investigative Agency and working with the locals there. Let me move to the announcement and whats coming in life after 42. There is already reports of brownsville, texas, right now, shelters are overwhelmed. Chicago and new york are overwhelmed and what is it going to look like before the expiration of title 42 . A few things, chuck. First of all, this is a tough challenge and has been as wye recognize for years and years. We are seeing a level of migration not just the southern border, but throughout the hemisphere that is unprecedented. It is the great of the migration in our hemisphere since world war ii. The president on day one delivered a solution. He delivered Immigration Reform legislation that we had hoped congress would act on swiftly. They havent. Within the constraints of a broken immigration system we are doing so much. Our approach is to build lawful pathways and cut out the ruthless smugglers and deliver lawful pathways so people can access humanitarian relief without having to take the dangerous journey from their own countries and at the same time if they arrive at our southern border in between ports of entry we will deliver consequences. All right. I want to go through specific scenarios, an unaccompanied minor that comes on may 12th, what happens . We follow the law. The law provides that we take custody of that child and we have 72 hours within which to transfer that unaccompanied child to the department of health and Human Services and then it is for the department of health and Human Services, hhs, to identify a relative, a sponsor in the United States to whom they can transfer care of that child. Do you accept the idea that that is all considereded a loophole to get into the country . Chuck, we have to take a look at the humanitarian issue here. These are parents that are suffering such desperation when its by reason of an authoritarian regime, tremendous violence, acute poverty, persecution that they are so desperate that they send their children to the southern border alone. We have, the law provides humanitarian relief for these children and we enforce that law. If a family comes to the border and if theyve not done this prefiling and not filed for an asylum plan what happens to a family with children under the age of 18 . So we will exercise our enforcement authorities in a tradition immigration context. Remember, title 42 is a Public Health authority and not an Immigration Authority that was delivered in response to the covid19 pandemic. When that ends on may 11th, we will use our immigration authorities under title 8 of the United States code. That family will be placed in Immigration Enforcement proceedings, removal proceedings. They will make a claim, if they make a claim for relief, we will adjudicate that claim for relief swiftly. Define swiftly. It could be days or weeks. It is not going to be months. Because weve seen in new york migrants are Getting Court dates in 2033. How does that happen . What we have done now is we are going to be able to exercise our Immigration Enforcement authorities. Weve been precluded from doing so by a court. We sought to end title 42 long ago and title 42 does not deliver an immigration consequence. Title 8 of the United States code does. If an individual is removed under title 8, they will encounter an at least fiveyear bar on readmission into the United States. Heres a question i have. There are 2 million asylum cases in the backlog right now. What happens to new asylum claims on may 12th . Do they get put in line behind these 2 million cases . This is why the quick adjudication. I get it in theory, how is it going to work in practice when we are sitting on 2 million case backloggeded . We will focus on recent border crosses, but the point, the fundamental point is we have more than 2 million cases in an immigration backlog that has been building year over year over year. What a powerful example of a completely broken immigration system. We have got to fix it. We need legislative reform. What is a ive gone through this before. I know theres a comprehensive aspect that we need, but just border enforcement you need more money for what . You need more Processing Centers in country . Besides columbia and guatemala, do you want to open centers in honduras . Could you even open a center in venezuela or would a government allow us to do that . Chuck, we need resources for it all, but remember, the resources will enable us to move more quickly, more efficiently within a broken immigration system. So i just want to be clear that we are working within significant constraints. We need people. We need technology, we need facilities. We need transportation resources, all of the elements of addressing the needs of a Large Population of people arriving irregularly in our southern border. Whats the definition of a secure border to you . It is in the context in which we are working, it is maximizing the resources that we have available to us to deliver the most effective results and something that is overlooked and that i speak about frequently is the fact that our apprehension rate at our southern border are consistent with the apprehension rates in the prior administration. And why is that . It is because of the extraordinary, and extraordinarily heroic work of the United StatesBorder Patrol, but it is enormous. I want to ask you about the Border Patrol because the union doesnt like you and they made it very clear this month and last month and this is all first Border Patrol. The chickens will come under roost because of what hes done. Remove mayorkas was their most recent tweet. How do you lead a group whose union wants you out of office . Am proud to work with the Border Patrol and ive supported them vigorously since my first day in office and i will continue to do so. A tremendous source of pride. What do you think the disconnect is . Is this media perception . Is this a red blue divide . Just simply that youre in a Democratic Administration . Chuck, im focused on mission. Thats what im focused on. I look at their need. I try to fulfill their needs. Upon we go to congress and seek support. This is the First Administration since 2011 that has plussed up the Border Patrol with more agents. Our request of congress for fiscal year 2024 is another 350 Border Patrol agents and that hasnt happened for over 12 years. Lets talk about the fentanyl issue. The biggest impediment in dealing with the fentanyl issue, is it americans addiction . Is it the mexican governments inability or frankly passe relationship with the cartels or is it the fact that china so easily exports these materials . Whats the toughest aspect in this . Chuck, its a matter of supply and a matter of demand no different than the scourge of drugs that has afflicted this country for decades. I will tell you, i was a federal prosecutor for 20 years. I prosecuted methamphetamine cases and black tar heroin and we havent seen anything like fentanyl. Its toxicity, these cartels are peddling in death and destruction, but we have to stop the flow of fentanyl and we also have to address the demand. In the 80s we covertly worked with the colombian government to deal with cartels in colombia and we had success. Is it time to deal and i know some people are calling for more direct military confrontation with cartels or call them terrorist organizations and is it time to call for a strategy that we did similar to the colombian cartels . Number one, we are taking it to the cartels with unprecedented strength and focus. There is a misperception that mexico is not a good partner in our fight against is that an ally or not . They dont act like an ally these days. They are an ally. How come they dont help on the fentanyl stuff . That is a misconception, we have transnational criminal investigations units and theyre in mexico. Amlo denies it in un. Lick that theyre having anything to do with fentanyl traffic. Chuck, i cant speak to his public statements. I can speak through what happens on the ground, operationally and we work very closely with our mexican partners and that fentanyl, though, the precursor chemicals and the equipment used to manufacture it, much of it originates in china and weve got to stop that flow. What is a good way to do that . Of course, our relationship with china is not very positive. We are working with our mexican authorities and we are working with our partners internationally to put pressure on china, to interdict the flow and to identify the transport companies, to cut off the finances and to hold individuals and companies accountable. I want to ask you, youre in cabinet meetings and there are a lot of questions about president ed bien and his ability to serve in his second term. Youve seen him face to face, what say you . Is he up for a second term . Oh, chuck, 100 . Incredibly sharp and incredibly probing and incredible command on the details and probing on the details and asking tough questions, absolutely. Im incredibly proud to serve in his administration. I am incredibly proud of the work this we have done across the border. Your full confidence he can serve, secretary . 100 . Secretary mayorkas, a big task ahead of you. We look forward to it. When we c mass general brigham om when you need some of the brightest minds in medicine. 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As america debates how old is too old to be president , the youngest candidate thats announced in the 2024 field is currently introducing himself to voters. Vivek ramaswamy is a 37yearold multimillionaire graduated from yale high school. He made his fortune in biotech and ran an Asset Management company that calls itself antiwoke. A firsttime candidate, he plans to start an antiwoke Cultural Movement. Were in the middle of a National Identity crisis. That leaves a vacuum in its wake and when you have a vacuum that runs that deep that is what poison fills the void. Pick your favorite one, wokism, transgenderism, climatism, covidism. And Vivek Ramaswamy joins me now. Mr. Ramaswamy, welcome back. Welcome to sunday meet the press. Thank you. Good to see you again, chuck. Let me start with this look, you have antiwokism and this is your political identity as youve introduced yourself to folks. I get it in the primary. 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