Where Kansas City Chiefs So there still are still some some time to do this by the way the life that right now Raiders plus $23.00 and a half. Have a council and I don't think that is good I think the expert how are the picks doing this week Gavin Oh awful Ok there we go that's why I see I'm just lending more credence to to what I was saying one of the earlier games today was a rematch of what we saw just a couple of weeks ago that was the Cleveland Browns going to Pittsburgh this time to face the Steelers in the I don't know what you want to what's what's the rematch that we could call is it swinging helmet Gates is it a brawl gate whatever the case is the Browns and Steelers renewed their rivalry Pittsburgh goes today and gets a 2113 win over Cleveland and I'm watching this game from and I'm realizing what we saw with Freddy kitchen's just a few days ago wearing a t. Shirt that says Pittsburgh started it when I thought. Silly me about the Bronson kind of put all of the shenanigans behind them that they were ready to turn the corner because this was a team that was in playoff contention but to see something as I don't know as silly as a t. Shirt and I know it's fun hahaha but the probs a legitimate Li were in the playoff picture in a game that you have to win with the Pittsburgh Steelers making a change at all of course some guy named Duc and the Hodges and the Cleveland Browns could not get it done today and I just look at the Browns of the difficult thing for me is when you think about the organization that went oh and 16 you would think that a resurgence of that team would be a heartwarming story something that is well received but the Browns have had so many things happen to them or they've done so many things to make their feel good story a feel bad story and today I think was the perfect example of it if you have a rematch in this game Freddy kitchen's wears the t. Shirt to make things I guess stoke the fire a little bit and now they're 5 and 72 games back to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a wild card and essentially put a huge dagger in their playoff hopes and Kyla Murray just was picked off that game is over that one that one is over with for sure. In Arizona 33 nothing extra point coming up but I have no sympathy for the Cleveland Browns and I think there are a lot of people that feel that way as well not only just with the with the hype but from whether it be Baker Mayfield's comments or him you know telling a reporter walking off the podium everything that the Cleveland Browns have done I thought that they turned a corner after the miles Garrett situation because they said we can't do that stuff it's a bad luck in it doesn't seem like it did any good for them today it didn't and immaturity Like I said and discipline this starts where it starts with the head coach he can well the funny shirts you want to make light of whatever situation it happen but you still have to go out and play the game and if your mentality is hahaha. Look at us and joking around and it's been like that the entire season for the for the Cleveland Browns they've underperformed and you would say well they have 5 wins I could that be because of the upgrades did they made across their roster often civilian defense of Lee the momentum that they had last year and the hoping that Baker mates will can take that next step and with all that said they've done none of it. And it seems like the I'm sorry to to cut you all know what they accomplished they felt that they accomplished something by getting to 5 and 6 and it was just like when a couple of weeks ago when they were playing the bills at home and Jarvis Landry got the penalty on the 1st touchdown of the game because of taunting but it felt like that they had accomplished something by scoring on their driving it felt like all right now we've accomplished something because we're $5.00 and $6.00 so we can go back to doing whatever we want to do not run the ball in the 2nd half against the Pittsburgh Steelers after Baker Mayfield cracks his hand on on a helmet at the end of the 1st half like these are the things that you're right it's coaching it just for some reason it doesn't sink in to the Cleveland Browns and it's got to go back to the head coach it does and it starts at the head coach and it finishes at the head coach and obviously this is a team that is going to self-destruct and have been self destructing the whole year they lead leading penalties often deadly and defensively and discipline unsportsmanlike penalties roughing the passer penalties we saw what the fiasco was a week and a half ago so I mean this doesn't surprise me you can't line up against a division opponent and lose to the 3rd string quarterback you can do that. It any point in your season in you look at the roster and you let you look at the names you recognize them and I mean Cohen Right right like Come on James Washington had a breakout day and people were like well who's who's Washington right duck Hodges. Dukkha just beat you to death and the James Washington scores and they've had a bit of a report which is interesting because Washington in recent Rudolph played together at Oklahoma State but now it's dark Hodges and James Washington are the ones that together basically Pittsburgh is like we're going to just throw it up non field and James Washington made an amazing gets for one of their touchdowns but it wasn't there wasn't anything a Pittsburgh was doing that was to make you be like oh we didn't expect that or they fooled us with that I think about this if you were to tell me a team doesn't have their number one quarterback their number 2 receiver that I mean they're number one receiver they're number one. Running a running back they don't have their number 2 quarterback and the 3rd string quarterback his name is duck. It wouldn't matter who they were playing now you would think that's him you have to when you do you would say hey whoever they're playing definitely has the advantage rests absolutely in the Browns were favored they were favored by 2 and a half entering this game there's Pittsburgh So there's a there's a saying that you got to win the game just posed to win and if you're if you're down your entire oftens of staff are your entire oftens of team then you get Yeah you got to win those games and they're not doing that because there aren't discipline. And they really can't get out of their own way. And that's a shame because they have a lot of talent and a lot of people were expecting big including myself were expecting. Big things from them and the division is up in the air to take I mean I mean well outside of skewing the outside of vaults of yeah There's a while they were in the thick of the wildcard Hans All right you beat Pittsburgh you end up winning the season series against them you are both you both are $6.00 and $6.00 so you would have the advantage over them if you were to get to a tiebreaker their other 6 and you know the Raiders may fall the 6 and 6 they lose to the chiefs today were down 21 nothing but you're still in the thick of it in Ephraim what's worse about it is all of the things that had to be going for Cleveland today you then look at their schedule had they still have 2 games against the Bengals and they face the Cardinals they do have a matchup against the Ravens but it's not out of the rubble possibility to think that this team is going to go $3.00 and $1.00 down the stretch if you win this game is a very good opportunity for them to be in the wildcard hunt and they didn't get it done today they abandon the run in the 2nd half this after Baker heard they couldn't get the stops that they needed and now Cleveland is likely to miss the pill playoff Kyle emerges through another interception. Kansas City just scored more points they kicked the field goal so it's still a 3 score game for the Raiders who could go down and score in still maybe stay in this contest with the if the Kansas City Chiefs I'm laughing because I don't know what play the Chargers just tried to run with tie rod Taylor and Philip Rivers but it was a a snap to. Taylor and then Philip Rivers was split out so it was a backwards lateral the Broncos read it so then Philip Rivers just threw it I get to not have run out it was a bad football you know what targets us what type of play it was is terrible football the game in Denver right now is the only competitive game that we've got. At least the from think so I don't think the chance they get the Raiders Raiders could go down in school or they're still going to be some football to be played in Kansas City going to happen Chargers are getting a 1st down in the 3rd and 7 completion to Keenan Allen down to the Broncos 30 yard line but Denver and drew lock a lead l.a. By a score of 7000 to 10 for catches on the day for Keenan Allen for a monster $32.00 yard sign being sarcastic or come to life from the get go Fox Sports Radio Studios 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more on current turns was a guy could account for a free rate quote he from Salaam get him on Twitter at a from Salaam I met Dan buyer on Fox And coming up next we check in with Alex Marvel as an ask him Is this a preview of what can happen in Super Bowl 54 with what we saw in Baltimore today we have to that question next year on Fox Sports Radio. Please call. The coach he's going on the side of. The number 1220 and up that came from. 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To find us want to get your television go to Fox Sports dot com for details. To. Me. This name. As well as on the radio he said. 3 games going on right now but only one of them is a game the Raiders win a lot of the teams to get definitely gold make it 24 nothing and then head upon it back to Kansas City so that means she said the ball up 20 no no no no no no no you don't get the bill out of it now all right it is still a chance right 20 Well if it gets to 31 nothing that's going to be difficult to 27 not having I mean but I'll still say the Raiders have a chance in this one still to be still could be a ballgame because Ephraim they're still 906 left in the 3rd quarter there's an opportunity it's still a 3 story game as the a.f.c. West supremacy is on the line in Kansas City Other than that you can focus on Broncos and chargers right now which is a $17.00 to $10.00 game midway through the 3rd quarter it could be the beginning of the end of Philip Rivers considering out today has gone so far because he hasn't done much to his throne 8 interceptions in 2 and have games it's been a it's been a tough go tough go of it in the Chargers with some slim slim playoff hopes he's even Salaam good amounts would already from slow down by run Fox or net guest is on Twitter and Alex my best joins us every week at this time you can hear him on Sirius x.m. N.f.l. Radio Alex mommas joins us here on Fox Sports redzone radio Hello Alex will be a great Thanksgiving How are you I'm doing great much better than the Oakland Raiders who have been outscored 55 to 3 Ever since they kicked off against the New York Jets last week I'm top of that there wide receiving corps one catch freight yards today represented by state Jones that is it when it comes to receiver production they are quickly fading Unfortunately for Raiders fans out there that's for the Chargers when you do stupid things but they just stayed with a with a pretty good roughing the punter penalty on 4th down hard to win games we're going to put a lot of it on Philip Rivers but let's be honest here this off on 3rd line is not giving Phillip much of a chance to see them I think it's an office without an identity and the defense just hasn't. As dominant as you would hope and that leads to Gus what 4 and 7 to lose on the Broncos Andrew Lock the guy who was compared to a baseball pitcher who could throw the ball really hard but knew no pitches this was during the preseason by his own head coach Rick Sanchez and they're up 1710 well they are facing a team that can only hit a curb can't even hit a curveball so you can you can say that that's maybe the same you're gonna know what's up with the Chargers they're 4 and 7 pretty much out of the playoff picture kind of a kind of a disappointing late set of gains that we've got here Alex but earlier in the day it was anything but with story line there and everywhere what's going to be your biggest take away from the Ravens Niners classic showdown in the rain at Baltimore once one of the 17 Well I think we I think we all realize this could be a Super Bowl 54 preview right I mean it looks efforts just go show that they could handle Lamar Jackson to a point I mean listen Lamar making n.f.l. History right becoming the 41st quarterback ever to have 4 games of 100 or more yards breaking Michael Vick's record an incredible tool threat but you know the 40 niners at speed on defense right and I think that you know the big question is this the 2nd time around when you play when you play the Ravens what's going to happen and I'm referring to you know listen some teams are just not going to be good enough right but it but at the Patriots play the Ravens again what happens a 2nd time around now that they've seen a lot of these concepts and I think the same thing for the San Francisco 49 ers Of course you're not going to see it until potentially the Super Bowl and we'll see if they're able to get that far but I just had a great game you know really and you know comes down to Justin Tuck or at the end the most clutch kicker in the n.f.l. He's the Adam he's the anti-venom Terry at this point unfortunately for the Colts 'd and you know that that's what we get but not of really really fun game great way to start off the day and yes you're right this slate of afternoon games very tricky although I'm wondering to does Sean McVeigh keep Jared Goff in to try to break the norm than Rob Rocklin passing record of like 551 yards in a game because if you did keep him in for 4 quarters and all the way through quite honestly I think the record would follow. Zona Vance Joseph when we talk about coaching changes at the end of the season Ouch watch out might be gone is to say oh we have an interception again the city sure did yeah in the end zone Patrick moms picked off I'm telling you this game is not any way not over Alex. Dance time unlike the Raiders now just telling me I'm not over whatever I want to rewind always back to Thursday and I want to talk about the state of the Dallas Cowboys and that front office in terms of Jason Garrett It's got to be time right what I mean when the killing the season's over I mean look the kicker has less job security than Jason Garrett At this point right because they brought in 3 today apparently they're not going to sign any but Brett Mars' missed 6 of 12 a kicking at home that's not so good as you know in 2 key ones on Thursday so you know we'll see how long he's going to be able to keep his gig but that being said yeah I mean look we all know what's going to end up happening here the big question too is who ends up replacing him right I mean already you've got a whole bunch of names that are out there speculative with what Yuri Jones wants but the question too is the infrastructure of this team a couple questions here do they want to keep telling more is often said coordinator they believe he has a bright future in this position that he's going to grow into it they don't maybe learn to call a few running plays here and there that you've got the talent in the backfield but what they want to go with a defensive coach who's going to agree to the structure where Jerry Jones is so front and center and talking about the team and you know just really basically just is the guy running the organization and so many ways publicly that and ways that he reveals it like his own radio show and things like that and saying things that I'm sure Jason Garrett would prefer to keep in-house So I mean I just think there's a lot of questions about where the Cowboys are headed in the future and if you're Jones you know knowing look it's been 24 years now since the Dallas Cowboys got to a Super Bowl right Super Bowl 30 and that was when he was you know Barry Switzer was there and it was the guys that you meet Johnson had for 24 years he's been trying to win the Super Bowl his way it would be exceptional 4 years ago par sells that isn't really working out all too well you win some games but you haven't been an n.f.c. Title game since the 1095 season Jerry reassess. His role in this organization not sure if you want to do that does the Cowboys they can make change all they want but I'm not sure someone else is going to come in and necessarily do a better job the way this team is set up Alex my friends joining us here on Fox Sports redzone radio he from Salaam I'm Dan buyer rounds of never made it to a Super Bowl they're not going to go this year dropping the