Transcripts For KMEG Face The Nation 20151220 : comparemela.

Transcripts For KMEG Face The Nation 20151220

Single digits. During the iowa, its senator ted cruz who some has taken the lead with 40 support. Donald trump is at 31. Marco rubio at 12 and ben carson plummeted down to 6 . Rest of the field 2 or below. Friday we traveled to iowa and met up with marco rubio, w w asked him abut his escalating battle ted cruz. Senator, what street this debate between you and senator cruz about on immigration . Well, ted was much in fact was supporter legalizing people that were in this country illegally, he was during the debate he was after the debate. He made it clear multiplpl occasions that he was against citizenship but open to legalization. And then for weeks now on campaign trail hes refuses to answer that question until the other night where he said that he did not intend to legalize people. Again trying to find himself some wiggle room. So the bottom line, there isnt him and i on how to approach immigration. That was the point i was trying to make, this is serious issue that needs to be fronted, every republican running for president has supported or supports legalization in some form or fashion. Of people that are in this country illegally even donald trump he just wants to make them leave the Country First then legalize them. Dickerson is it about immigration are you making larger charge about ted cruz and whether hes being honest and truthful with people . I think ted wanted to not talk about realization during primary leave himself being for it in general election. So, obviously getting to the electorate. Not the first time. Multiple issueshere hes tried to do. This the Free Trade Agreement was up he wrote opinion piece in the wall street journal he wrote with it paul ryan. Three days later he flipped on it after i dont know why he got some fresh you are on the fast track authority. Hes done it on votes on farm issues, changed his vote on the floor of the senate. Facts are prerented but my concern voters nd to if youre going to attack someone on policyou need to be clear where you stand. Dickerson voters are making decision should they be thinking where ted cruz think about immigration or be making larger questions ted cruz being honest . When you spend your whole time telling people that youre a clear talker, you say what you mean, everyonene else is a sell out but youre the only purist, i think its fair to say, hold on a second, this is wre youve been in the past here is where you are now. Truth is everyone running on the republican side supports strong conservative positions, we have some differences on some issues, we should discuss those Like National security, for example. But when you run by telling everybody youre the only purist in the field or only one thats always consistent conservative then your record will have light shown on it, in this case has proven thbt in fact, well after the i am breaks debate he was still talking how he was open to legalizing people how important it was to bring people out of the shadows and so forth. National security issue do you open conversation in the Republican Party about banning muslims from america and that majority of the party agrees with that idea. Right now do you think that is a National Security problem . Well, the statements that people made, its not serious policy proposal. So, itfuls made for the purposes of recapturing the headlines. Donald trump had fallen out of theeadlines because we had largest terrorist attack in American History since 9 11. He wanted to get back in the headlineand came up with something spectacular and outrageous so people would respond and recapture the headlines. Its not a serious proposal. Ultimately all of this will pass, it will be the rhetoric and politics of the next president that will determine whether we are safer or not. Dickerson i was interested, chairman byrd said does have real danger can be used as recruitment tool from terrorists also want what do muslims feel like who live in the United States that it might alienate them which is precursor for potential the primary recruitment tool that rises uses they are recruiting people to join their final showdown in the city against the west. Going to trigger this new era in world history. The second point valid one, we will need cooperation and work alongside the american muslims in this country to identify areas where people are being radicalized or things they may see in their community. We are going to need to work with them, most certainly very patriotic Muslim Americans who love this country would love to share information with us to prevent these attacks. To the extent that rhetoric could prevent people from doing that or make them resistant to cooperating with Law Enforcement and Intelligence Agency thats problematic. Dickerson another debate on Foreign Policy was overseas. He said, we need to focus on killing bad guys not getting stuck in middle eastern civil wars that dont keep america safe. What do you make that have . Hes wrong. Because civil war in middle east have direct impact on america. The syrians civil war was not started by the United States it particularly sunnis who wanted to remove assad. My argument was, this thing is going to spiral out of control, if we dont empower the seculars rebels on the ground theyre go can to be killed or forced into ile. And vacuum will be left it will be filled by radical jihaddist, that is who fills vacuums. That is precisely what happened. The argument that assad, we have no vested interest, hes not enemy of america is wrong. For example, assad reason why theres refugee crisis. Where are their hundreds of thousands refugees destabilizing europe, trying to come to america, because assad conducting an attack of sectarian cleansing. He is conducting program of gettg rid of all the sunnis, that is forcing hundreds of thousands of people to destabilize europe and jordan and trying to come into the United States. Dickerson people are so afraid of, you take assad out were committed to having to take care of what is left afterward because when you dont eates the failed the sunnini peopleill take sea sad out. Civil war thats leading to this sort of vacuum you want it to end as quickly as possible. The longest it lasts the harder going to be to govern that country. Dickerson you break it you bought it, even if the syrians are the ones who overthrow were helping them by that little bit of help we give, puts us on the hook. Also afterwards if its failed state United States on the hook, but our involvement wouldnt exacerbate. Without america firing single butler or providing a weapon there was going to be a civil war in syria that was going to destabilize syria and create a vacuum. Our choice, let it play out, you let t play out t t i it leads to the vacuum which leads to the isis fighters or do you do something to end it as quickly as possible so that vacuum created. That is the choice we had three years ago we didnt take it. Dickerson you have a new ad that is running it says, quote, all of us who feel out of place in our own country. Do you feel out of place in your own country . People feel out of place in their own country foror number of reasons. Where you were told your whole life that if you go to school, you get a degree, youre guaranteed the american dream. At least a shot at the american dream. Thats not happen canning. You have country where people are told, this is a country where youre going to be judged on your merits on your hard work, that is not happening. Increasingly americans feel out of place, because it seems l le the people who have access to power and influence win. And everybody else is left on the outside looking in. And then people are hold traditional values are often described as bigots and haters. Dickerson what calls them that . Everybody on the left. If you do not support their definition of marriage dickerson the word bigots and who is calling them that . The president has on occasion said that people dont support same sex marriage are wrong. Dickerson rock is different than ive been called a bigot for not supporting the definition of marriage. Dickerson you say, the us are you including yourself in that . The traditional values, absolutely i have been called that. Called antihispanic, antilatino by group of obviously people from the left, who argue that unless we agree with them on everything somehow we betrayed our community. This is standard operating practice on the left. Dickerson vladimir put in says drum is outstanding and talented personality. Is that the endorsement you want . I dont want vladimir put in is a cost benefit analysis political actor trying to have russia recognized as a great global power on par with the United States who wants the world to return to a steer of influence of. Dickerson donald trump seemed to be honored by the raise from putin. He shouldnt be. Videod mere putin who has killed, hes jailed andurdered journalist,s political opponents, bombed an Apartment Building as he is responsible for the downing of that malaysian airliner over ukraine he provided the antiaircraft weaponry thahawas used. Thth is a person who has done from a geopolitical realistic level we have to deal with him because hes leader of important country between them and us control over 09 post of the worlds nuclear weapons. Hes not someone who is going to go down in history as a great leader. Dickerson and donald trump mentioned those journalists killings he said, i thihi our country does plenty of killing also. I havent heard him. Of course its outrageous. I dont know single documented instance which the president of the United States ever ordered assassination of journalists who issue coverage of them or taken different political line. Weve entered a portiononf this politics whereothing surprises me any more whether its donald or people watching. Dickerson thank you so much. Thank you. Dickerson from iowa we traveled to the first in the nation primary state New Hampshire where we met up with jeb bush. Well have that interview in a moment. And can you explain why you recocoend synthetic over c car . Super food . Is that a real thing . Is this really any better than the one you got last year . If we consolidate suppliers, whats the savings there . So should we go with the 467 horsepower . Or is a 423 enough . Good question. You ask a lot of good questions. I think we should move you into our new fund. Sure. Ok. But are you asking enough about hoyour wealth is managed . Wealth management at charles schwab. This is a story about doers, the artificial heart, electric guitars and rockets to the moon. Its the story of america land of the doers. Doin it. Did it. Done. Doers built this country. The dams and the railroads. John henry was a steel drivin man hmm, catchy. They built the golden gates and the empire states. And all this doin takes energy no matter whos doin. Theres all kinds of doin up in here. Or what theyre doin. What the hecks he doin . Energy got us here. And its our job to make sure theres enough to keep doers doin the stuff doers do. Dickerson another escalating feud among republican contenders between front runner donald trump and former Florida Governor jeb bush. We sat down with jeb bush in new york, yesterday. Governor, bush, you and rally here in New Hampshire said that donana trump is a jerk, hes chaos candidate, said hes not serious he cant insult his way to the presidency but arent those all in stilts stealth are you trying to still your way point out that hes not a serious candidate. His answer about the Nuclear Triad, for example, was mind blowing. Not having any knowledge about what the subject is where you have thiss exclusive responsibility as president of the United States as commander in chief of the armed forces to how to use our Nuclear Deterrent he no knowledge. He thought come out saying putin is a strong man and a great die, tried to destabilize our relationship with our allies. Hes not a serious candidate. Nuclear triad so important, in rld of where, jihad something people are so concerned about. Its important because its been part of the security arrangement that has kept us safe since the post world war ii era. Weve seen a lack of investment in it weve seen need to refurbish it and strengthen it. The fact that he didnt know what it is one of those questions that i think you have to answer if youre running for president of the United States. But its not just that. He says that isis is not a threat. Two months ago he gets his news from he gets the news from the show that he wakes up in t t morning gets his Foreign Policy and military advice from people that are going on your show but thats not serious man. And when he insults me personally, i dont take it personally. He shouldnt take it personally, either. But someone needs to call him out. Dickerson one of his policies that hes put forward this idea of banning muslims from the United States. You said that was he was but majority support show in the Republican Party, what does that say about those voters who are appealed to by that policy. Says a lot about donald trump that he would say these things knowing that it might have popular support. But that will wane make it harder to do what we need to do which is destroy isis. You cant do it by banning muslim thats just ridiculous. What people are scared, and when they hear someone that advocates a big position, i can see why people would be migrate towards that but that doesnt mean its the right thing to do. Putin dickerson you shade donald trump Vladimir Putin said, explain why that is a problem . Pilot tin is organized to challenge the United States across the world now. He views his success by pushing us back. Were losing influence around the world and putin is gaining influence. Hes not an ally. Hes a dictator. He has nothing to do nothing to admire with him other than fact that hes strong. And we can admire that, we can respect that, and he admires strength, too. We need a president that actually will stand up for american interests in europe or middle east. Thats how you create a better relationship with putin. You dont brag about how great a guy he is. Hes not. He kills journalists, he anybody that opposes him ultimately is pushed away. Dickerson the people who are supporting you have been wondering about your campaign say that in this recent mode where youve been more vocal about donald trump, that you have found your voice, do you see it that way . You know, im not im in the here and now. Im fighting the fight. To a certain extent it is a little liberating to be able to post up against guy who is not qualified to be president and to share your vision about the tter way. Meeting where his name doesnt come up where we get to talk about how you fix our Health Care System and how we destroy isis and how we reengage with the world. Dickerson lets talk about isis. In the debate you said that the United States must destroy isis before it destroys us. You think that is the level of the strength that it can destroy it can stop Los Angeles School district from opening for two days because of random email from germany. It can change our way of life. It can hurt our prospects economically. It canan destabilize our country for sure. Will there be army invading United States, no. We are still capable of defending the homeland from that kind of threat. Are we capable of defending against people that are energized by this radical islamic terrorism, thats the halling that we face. Dickerson talk about fifiting isis overseas you layout your plans for doing this you said two things. Too much concern about Collateral Damage, the lawyers are getting in the way of people trying to prosecute the war. Arab nations. Cant those be in conflict. Isnt it the Collateral Damage that creates atmospheree t tt makes it hard for the arab nations to ally with the unid states . We have to be have to warfare, for sure. But this president has added additional features. Involvement. We send leaflets outed to the Truck Drivers that are sending diesel fuel across the board in turkeyey saying, keep doing it were goininto bomb you. We can assume that theyre part of the isis network if theyre doing that. Those things would send a signal to the arab world that were serious, that would be what we need to do. They need to understand that were not viewing that as Law Enforcement exercise. It doesnt mean youre going to automatically just carpet bomb mosul like one of the candidates hahahard time explaining why he would carpet bomb anything. Dickerson was that a mistake carpet bomby is that a mistake to say that . There are 080,000 people who live in mosul, 5,000 islamic tear thrusts control the place. Were going to destroy 800,000 lives with carpet bombing activity . This is foolish. Absolutely foolili. He had to back away from it was kind of clumsy. Hes a gifted speaker, a little untosh see him stumble a bit. But thats what we need to avoid. Want to develop the coalition as you ask, you cant talk about carpet bombing mosul or carpet bombing a held territory by isis that brings huge Collateral Damage. Dickerson you say in t Campaign People are not saying what they believe or running away. Because of the environment of the campaign, is that yeah, surey else would someone change their views. All of them have. Running for president of the United States. You got to have heart for people, you got to understand why people are frustrated. You have to have a mind to be able to come up with Creative Solutions to fix the things that you got to have a spine. You

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