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Rocio and Tom Johnson of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies Long War Journal Gentlemen welcome this evening I began in Afghanistan no longer a front page story to those following the excitement in Washington but it is to you because you cover very carefully the fall and fall of Afghanistan Bill a very good evening to welcome back from the West and I turn you immediately to report of the Taliban overrunning a district headquarters in Zabol province where is it Bill and is there anything significant any break in pattern here we see from the Taliban Good evening to. Yes . Over the weekend the Taliban overrun yet another district in Zabul example is a province in the southeast the ring road runs straight through it. It is sparsely populated but it's one of those areas where everything goes for example it borders Kabul it borders Gaza and borders the provinces of the that are on the outskirts of Baghdad I'm sorry Baghdad Yeah wrong wrong country of Kabul so you know look it's it's a key province it's one where al Qaeda is believed to maintain a sick significant presence actually we know that because raids were conducted against a group continue to be conducted against a group there Bin Ladin said that Sabol was a strategic province way back in the believe his 2010 and we found this in his letters he was one of 4 provinces he take to relocate the senior leaders when he was was doing its drone campaign but what the Taliban has been doing in Zabul province is sort of a blueprint for what it's been doing in a lot of other provinces just been a slow grind of taking it over district by district there's 11 districts in in the province right now the Taliban controls 5 of them the other 5 more contested and the only one in the provincial capital of Kolob is believed to be under government control and so 3 of these districts came under Taliban control since the end of July so it's just been you know the Taliban isn't you know getting out getting its raising its army and marching from district to district they're waging these low these battles surrounding the district centers and just driving down the Afghan forces until they ultimately are able to overrun these districts I remember correctly the airborne the 82nd Airborne was when I talked to them in say it or several times and this stretches back 220-102-0112 extension 2 out of a province province as you say on the ring road it was sparsely populated compared to. Kandahar province or Kabul province to the north the 82nd Airborne was planted there in order to increase security they were working with the Afghan National Army not much but they were and they were going on as I recall routine operations helicopter mounted operations into villages that were at Taliban controlled have to time and this is during the reelection year of 2012 of Barack Obama there was a tension in the American media that in those days Bill was against the war in Afghanistan right in those days that the 82nd Airborne was displaying and photographs disrespect of the dead in this particular instance a Taliban who had turned himself into a day and his body was mangled Now Bill the 82nd Airborne is listening to us tonight the veterans of the 82nd Airborne is there anybody in your information from Centcom or from the d.o.d. Explaining to the 82nd Airborne it's a Veterans Day after all or those who the families the 82nd Airborne why they sacrificed so much why they received a much for Zabul province is anybody talking like that now there is this is really one of the big one of the biggest problems in the entire war is that no one is telling us why this war is worth fighting any longer they're just saying they're just making arguments for well we can't abandon our ally or you know the things that we need to just keep keep there to prevent it from falling under control but there's no there's just no real argument no explanation that we have an enemy that is committed to fighting us committing to. You know to imposing its will on the western way of life and it's you know it starts in places like Afghanistan and Afghanistan was the country that harbored the Taliban you know sent home had its way Afghanistan you know would never discuss Afghanistan again if it's a country that everyone wishes. I could forget you know if a peace deal the so-called peace deal could have been cut with the Taliban last summer it would have been done and everyone would have been happy to drop out after the drop Afghanistan it's just not considered to be a priority the military itself I think is just tired of fighting that war has been plus years and. You know it's an indecisive battle and it's no Us military brass does not like that I welcome Tom Johnson and Tom reported very carefully not only on the death of Baghdadi there is a part 2 there is a new There is a successor to lead says. The Amir of the faithful and since we talked Tom tells me there's been much attention to who or what does to is one of represents and how I says is presenting to its minions what it means that Baghdad is gone and the new guy is here Abu Hamza. Tom a very good evening to you what have we learned about our current Yahshua these last days leaving John Well these are my fate had a full court propaganda campaign going now since Baghdad death they of course announced and recognized that date they've celebrated him as a martyr their literature they put out a weekly newsletter. Which had a whole timeline of events from Baghdad his life and so they've been sort of reveling in his so-called martyrdom even though they've lost ground in Iraq and Syria and elsewhere and one of the ways they've been celebrating this is basically is by saluting the flag and so they have guys around the world everywhere from the Philippines to Mali who have been producing videos of these small groups of individuals swearing allegiance to the new so-called Amir the faithful guy no known as Abraham all correct his spokesman is actually the guy known as Abu Hamza. In I believe or him is the what's interesting about this as all these job these are salute. And you know I'm watching these videos come out John and I would bet that most of these guys don't even know who you really is or know very little bottom anyway at this point certainly many some people in the zone if they do know is I'm sure there are sure a counselor lead advisory council knows who he is I'm sure there are a lot of commanders you know he is but some of these guys are rank and file in the middle of a field out in West Africa probably know very little about the guy oh then what sort of they have been told in any event they are pledging their allegiance to him there on dying allegiance in all these different countries and it shows they still have a network show they still have a robust media operations able to coordinate all these videos and there's no real dispute that in all the areas we've seen the videos from they have some level of operations and of course they exaggerate sometimes and sometimes they really only have a small footprint other areas like in West Africa or Afghanistan they have a more significant in footprint but on top of all of this John what's interesting to me is so far I haven't seen any reporting from based on u.s. Intelligence sources or Western intelligence sources recognizing who I believe remote correct she is has been very little said about him or little confirmation about what his real identity is what his background is there are several possibilities several suspects were whom could be this guy but nobody really knows yet because we don't know is that does that mean we're going to learn are they going to continue to educate their face about their new leader Baghdadi was extremely well known by the time of his death we knew where he came from we know that it's been in custody that sort of thing can we expect that you know he was extremely well known part of that was basically from digging in the West so I mean it didn't you know that when the interesting things in all this is there's always a debate John about charisma on the value of leadership and I'm sure that all matters with the about the baker of Baghdad he is I struggle to find to say was charismatic at all and yet he was the overseer the head of an international organization the really mushroom from 2013 and 2 dozen 14 really into the 15 before . We're losing significant ground and you know a lot of a lot of the reporting that was done on him was sort of pieced together from American sources of course he was held in custody inside Iraq Camp Bucca for a time and let go and so there was there were sort of nuggets here and there that you collected sort of compile a biography on him but you know basically the Islamic state didn't rush to really fill in all those details you know even in 2014 when they were demanding the allegiance of all Muslims to all around the world so they're saying more than a 1000000000 people old allegiances guy according to Islamic state which of course most people rejected you know even as they're making that absurd demand they did more putting out elaborate biographies of him or explain everybody who he was and he'd only peered on camera until this year you know only appeared in a video one time and that was when he announced the Caliphate or accepted the role as Suppose a caliph in 2014 all that speaks to me John to an interesting discussion all this which is what is the value of charisma and leadership and on what does it mean to be on camera you know Baghdad he's not a guy who was on camera very often he's fairly camera shy converse his rival I mean Al Zawahiri that of al Qaeda who's still alive still kicking after all these decades he's on camera all the time in fact it's a and I joke that it's it's not a daily call in show but he's hosting something pretty close so that I many times he does appearances do you measure right now that. The amount of propaganda they're putting out is consistent with what was happening before Baghdad is death are they still putting out our videos massacre boasting is it is that business as usual or they're concentrating just on the new guy you know it's it's business as usual they don't you know I haven't seen a significant tested sickly but I don't see any significant drop off in all the channels we monitor in the propagandas come out before and after Baghdad's death in terms of volume you know they're not at their peak of operations of course over time but they still put out a heck of a lot of information heck of a lot of propaganda media every day I mean they're just just tons of videos I mean even. From dizzy Christan where they claimed a recent attack on an outpost there to various other sort of videos to come out all around the globe and it shows that they still have this robust international media apparatus that despite specific targeting by the u.s. And its allies it survives so far or any mention or rationalization of the news that turkey for Juan is forcibly returning the ISIS fighters and their families to their origin country decisis deal with that fact you know the turkey portfolio is a very complicated thing in the Jihadi world because ISIS itself is clearly benefitted from Turkey Turkey or sort of safe haven for safe passage anyway times and the u.s. Government even under the present Trump is identified individuals who are senior ISIS leaders who've been operating in Turkey and they've wanted to sort of Eiseley But you know on the other hand the Islamic state publicly takes this sort of one president it sort of approach within the world of job as the more they basically it's us against the world and so they. Technically you know are at war with Turkey according to their own doctrine So in other words the spin a long standing issue for the Islamic State in terms of how to deal with Turkey al Qaeda has its own complicated arguments on all this and I don't see that really any difference in sort of their stance given Turkey's recent behavior you know one of the interesting things in all this is remember I says only carried out a few operations in Turkey today have claimed you know they probably could have done more through the years but they haven't and that's an interesting question as to why Tom jealous foundation for the Defense of Democracy along with his colleague Bill Raj I'll speak with Talban bell when we come back about al Qaeda remember the threat remains the transnational threat of Al Qaida I'm John Bass. Balance of nature changing the world one life it. 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I'm John doubt So this is the national security report project by Scala global digital firm transforming retail space with digital signage we are speaking out about the Afghanistan situation as we move into an election year the search for peace or an armistice or a peace treaty between the u.s. And the Taliban bot. That leaves a major player unanswered for that would be Al Qaida the reason the u.s. Is in Afghanistan was a pursuit of Al Qaida in 2009 the Obama administration argued that it was on the road to defeat. The out Qaida component in Afghanistan you and Tom have executed these many years that Al Qaida remains a vital network for the Taliban can we presume that the Taliban's success here means that the after that al Qaeda is also doing well in the Afghanistan Pakistan region yes we can it's a symbiotic relationship the al Qaeda provides funding and expertise military expertise and other and training and all that and other forms of of support for the Taliban and the Taliban provides al Qaeda safe haven freedom of movement allows it does Fabolous training camps and as that the Taliban succeeds in its operations al Qaeda also succeeds the Taliban will not denounce al-Qaeda it's. I know there's been reporting of that in with the last round of those so-called peace talks which were really with talks to get the u.s. To withdraw they had nothing to do with peace in Afghanistan. So al Qaeda is going to remain in Afghanistan even if the u.s. Leaves and even if it if the u.s. Be able to cut some faith of face saving deal and get itself out of Afghanistan and this is the reality that u.s. Policymakers u.s. Military has the face of hate is not a spent force in Afghanistan is not being defeated it maintains a significant presence the u.s. Military estimates up to 300 feet of fighters in Afghanistan I'm sorry I think that they were wrong when they were saying was 50 to 100 for 6 years true. But I think they're wrong now when they say $300.00 and I would estimate there's thousands upon thousands of fighters to fighters in inside of Afghanistan and they're not going anywhere whether the u.s. Decides to stay or decides to leave checking outside after the death of Baghdad a does it continue to prosper or has it taken a position about ISIS's retreat Well you know John 1st like to say hi to my 3 nephews or listen I had their new listeners for you have just been wonderful welcome welcome to the night you know al-Qaeda is well positioned is going to try and take advantage of a crowd that daddy's death there's been very little official recognition from al Qaeda so far but there was this interesting video that was put out by a u.s. There's a new terrorist a mobile Abdullah a sneeze a Saudi in Syria who we 1st profile a Long War Journal has somebody who is connected to the al Qaeda network and he very quickly upon Baghdad his death put out a video blaming Baghdadi for all the infighting within the jobbies ranks through the years and basically calling on fighters within the Islamic state to sort of adopt his righteous jihad in Syria and elsewhere we think that that sort of process is ongoing we're all kind of trying to bring back fighters from ISIS into the fold We'll see how that works out there's a lot of hatred within the Islamic states organization for Al Qaida but there's been this ongoing process or tempt to bring back some of these fires in full now remember al Qaeda was the mothership that helped birth of the Islamic State in the 1st place a lot of that's been sort of you know gotten rid people got that wrong through the years about his role in all this but there is an indisputable into our point of view that the evidence shows that al Qaeda in fact Al birth the Islamic say in the 1st place now vengefully just broke off and became its own thing its own international entity and actually tried to and did wage war against Al Qaida but you're going to see some ongoing competition in the coming months and we'll see some defections probably from the Islamic state Al Qaeda and we may see some more defections the other way. Or just 30 seconds does al Qaeda continue to depend upon Afghanistan as a refuge or has it grown since that was days. You know Al Qaeda is absolutely in Afghanistan the key issue here is and Bill alluded to the problems in estimating the force size for all kind of danced and one of biggest problems is that al Qaeda does not advertise what it's doing out and they say they're fighting on the Taliban's banner that's what they're doing a lot more Journal exists in large part to accumulate the encyclopedia worth of evidence showing that that's what they're doing and the bottom line is that where the Islamic state any time they kill single person they release a video on the advertising and they talk about how great they are of the release of . The national security reporter. Traffic. 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Confirming that a man a Chinese man who was said to be shouting a derision of the protesters was a set of fire quite horribly with liquid thrown on him and then a match thrown it was bizarre I don't have more details other than c.n.n. Reporting that it happened Gorden Tallis a very good evening Gordon my 1st question to you and then as that is a star and this gunshot it seemed to come from out of nowhere is it is it significant that it happened within days of Xi Jinping wanting us to see him sitting with Kerry lamb in Beijing as if the big cheese was going to tell Kerry Lamb how to settle all of this dispute in her home state of Hong Kong and you made the point over a long period of time that she being a man without a successor everything bad that happens attends to she is he losing face with his gunshot Good evening to your garden Good evening John and that is it is significant that this occurred after Kerry lamb met with Cesium thing in Songhai on November 4th it's also significant that Kerry Lam then went to Beijing and he met with Hong Kong who is the poll bureau standing committee member with the response with the Hong Kong portfolio and he's also a vice premier of this state and Hollande said something which is quite people's. And that is he said. Because of this violence these disturbances The $63.00 missed activity no country would tolerate this nowadays and so everyone took that to be a threat of shooting to kill and this occurred after that meeting between Kerry lamb and Han So I think that that's the significance now that everyone knows that about 34 weeks ago on Kong policeman shot a Hong Kong protester but that protester actually had a metal bar in his hand what we had occurred today is a Hong Kong protester on armed nothing in his hands approaching a Hong Kong policeman out in the open so the policeman could have retreated if he wanted to but a traffic cop and he was a traffic cop by the way took out his gun and shot the protester in the torso this is an inflection point this is causing people in Hong Kong to talk about revenge quote unquote that is. Gordon type retaliation can we expect from the protesters. Well Michael Yon who's been on John show quite a lot about a month ago maybe 5 weeks ago predicted that what would happen would be the police would kill a protester and then the protesters would kill police that's what we can expect we can expect this violence to escalate because what occurred this weekend was a change in everything and so therefore right now we can expect this rebellion to get worse and there to be escalating violence on both sides the curfew garden wood and the protests in the evening it's just my measure that curfew is what Star Tarion days always impose on rioting in the streets that has not happened in Hong Kong or if there is a curfew I'm not aware that it's being enforced is that a step rather than just pulling the guns out and opening fire you know there is no curfew right now in Hong Kong it would be difficult for Hong Kong to do that because it is a city which is to live at night like New York for instance so I'm sure the authorities are very loath to do that the authorities are really good in imposing rules that just everybody ignores So for instance this face mask ban which was imposed under emergency authority everyone ignores it and the government looks ridiculous so I don't think that they're going to impose a curfew but you know John that the government could do anything and so I could easily be wrong on this that is Gordon the meeting was even paying and the present portfolio are saying is this really and I'm going to them seeing how far they can go there's a 1st step and escalating the violence by the regime I think that it is it's laying the groundwork for the use of deadly force which is what we saw today and you know I think that essentially the Chinese don't want to formally deploy the People's Armed Police and the. People's Liberation Army on to the streets but they want to try to intimidate Hong Kong people and that's what I think this use of gunfire deadly force is and we're going to see more incidents like this we're going to see more casualties and if Michael Yon is correct and I believe that he is there is going to be casualties on both sides we're going to speak to Michael in a moment so I want to turn to the other part of the story which is that 20000 feet looking down on China the 6 percent growth g.d.p. Recorded for July to September is bad news Gordon because the decline is accelerating to under 6 percent we can see this in addition I see reporting from the Nikkei Asian review that the showrooms of new cars are empty in Beijing. 2 things the slowdown and a 3rd quarter and there's no reason to believe it's going to be reversed in the 4th quarter points to watch Gordon Where where are we going are we going to see unemployment is there is there a desperation in Beijing what command to supply in the winter Well I think we can anticipate the economy trending down you've mentioned car sales October was the 16th of the last 17 months to register a year on year decline in car sales they were down about 6 percent and this is going to get worse because September and October where car sales both were down both those months those are the really important months for car sales we had always Bob a single state today Nov 11th they said that they had $38000000.00 of gross merchandise value sold but we got to remember that a lot of those sales were pre-booked in the 3 weeks proceeding today because they take orders and then they book them on singles day so you know basically consumption is trending down despite Ali Baba's great. Ok but we're going to see I think more and more evidence is of decline especially with this whole idea of the Chinese people are now buying cheaper and cheaper goods in substitution for the more expensive ones that they previously could afford sadness that Gordon historically when are we at risk of the United States bailing out the regime again well I hope not to have were always at a risk of that because there's so many elements in American political side society that want that to happen that have an economic incentive for that to happen I actually don't think President Trump is inclined to do that which is a really good thing because we know that Nixon George h.w. Bush and Bill Clinton did that we do not need as we've talked about before a 4th rescue of Chinese communism and I don't think the administration is especially after the twin speeches by tents and Pompei Oh I don't think it's going to do that Gordon the slowdown in China is not entirely or even much in the majority about the trade dispute with the United States it is if I've followed the case that you've made these many years a product of the reporting of the growth being either false witness or and necessarily unduly and recklessly pumped up by simulants money in other words they were creating credit these many years and that credit extended to the low to the least was sponsible and the most exploitation of parts of the economy that would be the land holders in parts of the country that are not are going to develop not in this century so this slowdown we're seeing garden it was built in right we would be seeing this whether or not hellery Clinton or Donald Trump or in the White House or Mickey Mouse for that matter that the Chinese economy was going to slow down because of decisions that siege and King and others made what president trumps Section 301 terrorists have done haven't. Salary did that slow down and have made it worse but you're absolutely right this is a made in China problem and this is going to occur regardless of who is the American president and she Gen paying Belton road Xi Jinping is 2025 that was advertising that was Potemkin advertising for something that and the Economist in Beijing being responsible to the Communist Party could say was coming they've been anticipating this so that for years if I or if I measure their propaganda well built on road is certainly disadvantageous for the Chinese economy on balance they will have some victories on Belt Road but they're going to have a lot of debacle made in China 2025 is a bit different it is a real threat through trade violations they hope to build up but technology dominance in it now 11 sectors including 5 g. This is something that every American needs to worry about and president trumps policies with regards to try to need to take into account 2025 because this is you know technology so it is serious we have a minute that is who's going there we're looking at a possibility for a depression made in China 2025. You know we have a real possibility of a depression made in 2020 or earlier specially if we have President Trump take more robust actions against the Chinese which he definitely should because we need to put the Chinese economy on its back this is the one way to solve a lot of problems without people dying Gordon Chang of The Daily Beast that is McCotter Debbie Jr The Grateful as the Great Lakes were headed east Asia next our correspondent Michael Yon on the yet fog of war the 1st 3 reports Iraq be very careful as violence in the streets of Hong Kong that's been true but this is the 1st time we can record that the authorities used a weapon against an unarmed protester I'm John that slip. 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The favorite issue of the teaching on a go guide is out and you can get your copy at your very own home consignment a button and we go to our colleague Michael Yon who has been live streaming the protest in Hong Kong nearly all for the 6 months that they've been continuing He is now in Thailand heading back soon enough but we come to him to comment on the reporting of the unusual violence. We've seen in these last hours we have. Confirmed shooting by the authorities of a 21 year old protester in the torso that took place. The high. Kong Eastern Hong Kong island of Cylon Ho We also have c.n.n. International reporting a man is in hospital in a critical condition after having fluid tossed on him while protesting the protesters the city's hospital authority says that he's in critical condition the police say they are investigating I remind everyone fog of war the 1st 3 reports are wrong we wait we wait wait these are the reports for now Michael a very good morning to you you've watched these protests for 6 months is there anything that indicates to you that you knew that the gunshot was coming after all we're told this was a traffic cop traffic police officer is it is it a panic situation that certainly doesn't describe the bully boys and their masks and shoulder pads who have been beating up on the protesters it sounds like just an undisciplined member of the a force Good morning to you Michael. Good morning from 10 miles he headed straight back to Hong Kong later this week I've been yet about 80 major protests from you and I seen a lot of attacks and violence from 5 mostly from the police and out the police did shoot 2 people yesterday with real or they had shot 2 before so that's a total of 4 during the protest that they shot and I was real ports I mean I've been hit twice with probable people almost every day with rubber bullets but right now look at that live by the way with the live bat that stated by the protesters last Patriots 'd and there's action all over Hong Kong right now I can see I'm wide . Michael protesters in the last day or so over this weekend have been shouting the word revenge and that's because of the 22 year old student from the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology who filled the century to his death on last Sunday died on Friday do you think that this these these calls for avenge are going to have real consequences. Absolutely absolutely in fact I went out to the exact spot where he dropped or whatever it was that. T.k.o. You know or that is in Hong Kong and there were violent protests there the 3 days that I went and yeah absolutely I mean they're very depressed Hester's are very angry of course and yesterday I don't know if you've seen this but the place one place and was using it as motorcycle as a that's a weapon he was running through protesters with his motorcycle in the circle during at least 3 times you can see it on on You Tube. That is so Michael we can men expect an escalation of violence from the police as part using any excuse they can to increase their own violent behavior. Absolutely that yes I mean it's really picking up just week by week you can see it incrementally getting hotter there literally you know with the thank race miles from the police and all the patriot act on it are. Yeah a lot of our young men and women and you know when you're young you're 19 years old or 20 years old you're really more apt to go to violence and so a lot of Mark clearly you know calling for revenge and going for revenge Michel I've puzzled over something watching your videos and watching everything that I can get that you know the packages that come in the authorities the police are heavily armored they've got shoulder pads helmets they're massed their faces these are large human beings big shoulders they look like oh I don't know not football players but certainly something sporty something extremely strong about their nature they hold themselves like strong men they they're fast they're quick and they're trained with their batons or whatever weapons they're wielding are those Hong Kong or because the protesters looks light in comparison oft times it looks like David and Goliath facing each other after you hadn't or any understanding of where where Hong Kong has this large supply of big shoulders young men. Well that's a big question which is increasingly asked by the Patriots as well as some reports they hear people speaking Mandarin among the ranks of the police officers and Cantonese of the language of the land them on call and. You know these are only rumors that there's nothing proven that. To my knowledge anyway that the police are seated with mainlander soldiers or anything like that but certainly there are a lot of rumors to that effect. Michael the protesters you've talked about have been evolving tactics quickly can they evolve tactics against such a large force is Hong Kong police perhaps aided by mainland Chinese forces. Well 2 you know we don't know what they're going to do of course we and I want your Twitter state daily by the way so I know you're tracking on the state closely. You know the best thing they 'd can do is not make any direct confrontation the course of there is that invasion by the Army of course as you know also there's a lot of t.l.a. Army stationed right there in Hong Kong and Beijing means leaving their barracks and armored vehicles and with their rifles and going just right out on the streets from the barracks already. You know of course they'll lose and then a direct confrontation their best path clearly of nonviolence status. Yes but in terms of what mass Michael and clearly nonviolence would be the best response it worked in India against the British for the communist Chinese are now predicts would make communist Chinese would have to have a conscience amongst the ruling class not to resort to violence and historically we've seen that violence is work they will respond with correct. Oh you know that. Definitely Well we've seen what they've done in the back and what they did to the weaker and what they've done to their own people you know and they're harming their quite savage and we know that. You know solidarity movement in Poland of course in the Seventies and Eighties especially eighty's also had similar problems on the nonviolent by many solidarity members were tortured and killed but the nonviolent help the United States get involved with the CIA CIA operations you are helpful and whatnot and and you know we we basically beat the Soviet Union by playing different parts of the board whether of Afghanistan or star wars 'd or helping solidarity and many other plays that all happy simultaneously and if you look at China's problems that which I know. Michael Michael and now I thought from Geico motorcycle It took 15 minutes to take a spirit animal quiz online sleazy to cheat and. To cheat. And learn your animal isn't the cheetah but before less appealing blobfish. 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