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Summer league game call I think it's very appropriate I've I'm shocked this hasn't happened before I mean we'll have I'm sure somebody does Elias could they check this with a maybe maybe somewhere in the archives of b.s.p. And radio Alonzo ball made his professional debut tonight the n.b.a. Veg as summer league is is in full swing started tonight the l.a. Lakers Summerlee team taking on the l.a. Clippers summer league team Lonzo ball making his professional debut. It hasn't gone well in the 1st have 2 points one of 6 shooting a grand for board 3 a says he finished the game 5 points to a 15 shooting for rebounds and and 5 assists that the Clippers for what it's worth which is really nothing one the game in overtime in the respective summer league openers for both teams this surprise of the night however might have been Lavar ball at the half speaking with E.S.P.N.'s Mark Jones and p.j. Carlesimo. Rosso psychiatric disorders by their body also fall fairly low sugar rush this through it because everybody passed the ball so it don't matter about him this is too old and also got everybody happy that's all this about the crowded press is going to be affected by it so everybody will make better suppress the right you know company you're just trying to last the ball up that it would be good for you know make sure you could just double bypass all up look at it all right well come up with things Number one they didn't get the w. Number 2 as the game went on he launched and he launched a lot he had a bad shooting night just to a 15 from the 4. But it was it was it was fun to watch him tonight and look you can talk all you want about Lavar ball of our ball has helped create some of the hype around his son his son deserves a lot of hype because for my money he was the most entertaining player on the most entertaining team in college basketball last year I think he's going to be a transformative n.b.a. Player but we spent a Friday night in July watching Lonzo ball play a basketball game that was relatively meaningless in large part because all the hype surrounding it was a lot of fun it didn't feel meaningless I mean summer league all of a lot of the s.p. In types of showed up here and generally some really use it as a place where at least reporters go and just visit with people they want to see g.m.c. Want to get some information is sort of a laid back place but in this game for a once you know I didn't get I didn't have the sound up to know exactly how it was being called whether it was like position by position usually is kind of talk over these things and talk about different things but I mean the 1st possession I'm hanging on every possession and the 1st one Alonzo comes down and so I guess a Love few feet outside of 3 point line and just a real just a very relaxed just from the chest it had you know people have compared him to Jason Kidd it had a little of that feel to it and it just because those are the most fun when a guy does it in such a casual way and it was incredibly casual there was no. Thing to it he flicks his wrist and they're seeing room at the other end of it just the perfect hoop and I you know looks different to me Ingram looks a little bigger and so this is going to be a lot of fun now to a 50 he was feeling it by the way he knew he's had every eye on him his entire career going back to 3rd grade and he had a feel for the thing and he knew they've all come out to see me here I am Alonzo in man he was trying to bring down the Thomas and Mack Center with some of those stories which they were not they were not fall and Mo It was a it was a little bit sad one for 11 from behind the arc and toward the end I kind of felt like he was just launched and now now look he's he's not exactly planned with you know a bunch of guys that he's going to be playing with with the l.a. Lakers and so it's a lot easier to be the past 1st kind of guy that he is when you're playing with teammates that 1st of all you've played with for a while and that hasn't happened and that you actually trust and that that level of trust really isn't going to develop until he's actually on the court in the regular season with the guys that he's going to you know play a full 82 games play with but I mean it was just this is overly simplistic it was it was just it was a lot of fun and it was kind of going to watch live our ball is my favorite person in all of sports Freddy and Fitz e.s.p.n. Radio the e.s.p.n. At Sirius x.m. Channel 80 mostly more with with Lavar ball Lavar was was talking with E.S.P.N.'s Mark Jones and p.j. Carlesimo who called the game for e.s.p.n. Tonight on how much he talks with with Magic Johnson we had a go since it was a baby I say all my boys want to make it big difference they go for the ultimate goal to be the best players in the world so no matter how good they are how badly I don't stop working. You know 4 months ago we were here the Pac 12 tournament I can't imagine what these last 4 months once we got done with the answer go play the workouts and then you persist. She yourself where you wonder where I'd be drafted Thanks trip to proclaim that all they share with us a little bit your emotions are with their journeys over the last 4 months or the last 4 months I got. To I want to thank you I got some boys to say Ok so this is like saying go to river you want to thank God for the war but to I'm left I don't really have it's all truly right but what if all you have to do is all right away exactly the way lies are right listen to you to open your eyes. Ball on nothing he has pm broadcast that have time with Mark Jones and p.j. Carlesimo and this game had some punch it's the Lakers and it's Lonzo ball but also this is this is the 1st time that the l.a. Lakers have taken the floor under what is really that the new regime of Magic Johnson obviously he moved into his old role during the end the season last year but but this this kind of feels like now it's finally you know Magic is one of the show it's magic team this is kind of surprising Lavar ball and asked if if he talks often with with magic. Oh so that's it and love it but I have relationship is so good people want to point out is how do you have a good time for each and like there is the one thing that was what everybody was worried about it was going to be meddling once a ball has been a Laker for like 2 and a half weeks but still that was what everybody worried about was was Lavar was going to be 2 in the face of whoever drafted and so far at least according to the bar that's not the case the thing with magic is everybody in Los Angeles reveres him and even Le Var ball who thinks you know the big baller and he's bigger than everybody and talked about how you could take down did he was it Jordan he was talking about it would point in a I think I could have taken him back in the day a guy like that can talking talking talking go on the jump and you go whatever and the minute he comes up in in his with magic you what you do is you sort of turn into a little kid again he's not he's not going to I mean that's a ridiculous thing to worry about oh my gosh he's going to be in magic here also the only thing you worry about is if he's messing with a player all the time if he's telling a player hey they're not treating you right or this or that I mean if he's in that if he's in his son's ear if he's just out there on the airwaves and doing the local 710 l.a. And doing all that stuff that's fine the kid doesn't care if you watch the kid's face if you watch Alonzo's face President would his days do his thing he just sits there is minute he's since he's been in kindergarten his dad's been doing this like none of this surprises him none of this is a big deal to him but all of our ball is not going to get in in Magic's business and start telling him what to do he said people are intimidated to magic he's not going to do that now you're right as as people should be and look I have I've got to think that if Le Var ball doesn't know his role moving forward Magic Johnson has has a long history going back to when he was coming out of of Michigan state his 1st couple . Years in the n.b.a. Of putting people in their place whether their teammates coaches ex coaches opponents she will gladly do it with horrible. Yeah I think I think you're right about that is Mo Agger Matt mostly hosting tonight e.s.p.n. 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Again very very soon but there's there's one thing that's been kind of a common theme this week and let me let me see if if you share and share this we've been doing a lot of n.b.a. This week and there's been a lot of n.b.a. Free agency moves and during and a lot of them have have broken while we've been on the air and to the best of my recollection every single time one of these moves is announced or broken our reaction is typically like Ok that makes sense right like Has there been one this week that's been announced during our show that you thought wow what is that team doing nothing nothing seemed too crazy right now so like last night last night to me. Typified last night was the quintessential night that exemplified how rough it is to be a fan of The New York Knicks and I was thinking about this this morning and proper emphasis by saying I'm a I'm a lifelong Knicks fan so so last night while we're on the air there were 3 moves made by n.b.a. Teams and none of them like tilted the the landscape of the league but like it comes out that Kelly Olynyk is going to go to Miami and I think we both process that the same way kind of makes sense you know tall guy who can shoot threes he doesn't have to rebound because they have a white side and there's something about his game that just is kind of prototypical 21st century big man doesn't make the the Miami Heat legitimate contenders to win the East but like movie you go k. That makes sense Rudy Gay to San Antonio and I think we both have the same feeling about this like all right that's that's the perfect team for a guy who's coming off an injury they manage minutes really well and it's not like they need him to come in and transform the team plus he can give them some scoring punch they can go small with him Rudy Gay to San Antonio make sense right yeah I like that deal and don't forget about the Vince Carter I think it was an 8000000 dollar one year deal for 40 year old Vince Carter sense yes yes always want him in a locker room great guy to have and can still play you still play a little bit by understand is a was a Knicks fan sumthin sumthin finally sort of drew you know you had a you had terrible bad reaction to something so so all these moves go down and they kind of fall in line with almost everything happening this week we're almost everything that's happened since the beginning of free agency almost one week ago tonight you've gone Ok that makes sense and the money in the n.b.a. Is out of whack right now but still and then so we get off the air at 11 o'clock Eastern last night I drive home I have like a 10 minute drive home. I poured myself a beverage and I'm kind of looking at Twitter and I see that the New York Knicks. Signed to my heart away Jr a player that they traded 2 years ago to Martin Wade Jr who had like a nice 6 week stretch at the end of the season for the Atlanta Hawks in 4 years 71 mill it seemed to me this is the quintessential Knicks night last night because everybody around the league is doing stuff that if you follow like n.b.a. Writers like hard core n.b.a. Heads they're all like yeah Rudy Gay San Antonio makes sense Kelly Olynyk Miami makes sense next time Hardaway. Like if you if you like search the way Jr and Knicks hear of the things you see all right Washington Post next May never get their money's worth out of him Hardaway Jr. Yahoo 71000000 offer to Tim Hardaway Jr raises question about next New York Times with Phil Jackson gone Knicks make another puzzling decision then there's the New York Post or I'm sure the New York Daily News because it's an offer sheet the headline holy sheet. In a sense like an expanse nodding along right now because it's not that it's a bad deal it's that everybody else is in it is a bad deal but it's that everybody else is doing stuff that on some level makes sense and the Knicks do something that no one thinks makes any sense you think they thought when they did this if they don't match it will just make it legal make life miserable sort of like we did I mention because there was some thought that they had to match it like we haven't done anything. Wrong some just since that whole team they were 2 years removed from a 60 win Diem Yeah so here's Tim Hardaway Jr says this is one of those moves that simply was Ok let's change the narrative it's been about poor seem poor syngas it's been about Carmelo in this relationship with Jackson used to Phil Jackson it's all been horrible let's change the narrative the problem if you change the narrative you'd like to change it to something positive like even. So short of a limit Neal one of my would have been I think I think probably you would have said you know what I'd like to see a limit Here's a playoff hero would like to see the man with the man done in the long hair I'd like to see him in the garden but yeah this one just when does it make sense so Freddie and Fitz e.s.p.n. Radio e.s.p.n. Absolutely essential 80 mostly and I hope your weekends off to a great start e.s.p.n. N.b.a. Insider Bobby Marks was on this morning with Mike and Mike and he sees a different issue with this offer the big concern is not the off the 4 year 70 $1000000.00 He's about the uncertainty in the front office there I don't understand how and I like Steve Mills how James Dolan gives permission to sign a long term contracts without a g.m. In place and whoever they hire is going to be one of cleaning up the mess of this big time contract Yes so this and I speak I speak from of from a place of emotion because because it's still for some reason I'm a Knicks fan but it's like I'm watching all this other stuff in free agency happen and I'm going Ok that's fine the next on the outside looking in and they'll just take some table scraps to fill out the roster and that's that's fine you're rebuilding and you've got a piece to rebuild around and you got to figure out what you're doing with Melo and that's Ok get your front office situation settled move off the back page kind of you know just fade to the background and start your rebuild which you should have started a long time ago and then in. That instead they they allow the guy who probably is going to either have a geo working underneath him or a boss above him sign a guy to a contract by the late Tim Hardaway Jr is not a point guard they need a point guard and it's a ridiculous amount of money plus with the 4th year player option like it's just such an exciting and again it's on its own in a vacuum it's a bad move but you look around the league and everybody else is doing stuff that makes some sense and you do something that nobody. Make sense of the. Awful isn't there a part of you that thinks Steve Mills or whoever is making this decision just sort of likes the name like hey at least this guy has a great name I say more to a senior place point guard like he would make more sense. But I think that I think that played some role of the other problem we just heard from Bobby marks the former g.m. He's part of the s.p. And now he's just come over big signing for e.s.p.n. I sometimes feel that when Bobby Mark somebody called him up the other day for a story who is that Forsberg somebody we talked to the other night I sometimes think they're like literally people like the Knicks whatever are seeing what deals Bobby marks is putting out there like have you seen this recently where he'll deal do a proposed 3 way trade how to make something work yeah reporters are going to Bobby marks and saying hey how do you think you could make this work I think I think they're actually in v.a. Teams out there that look at that and go like what Bobby did there what I wish as a Knicks fan I wish the Bobby would write a piece that the Knicks shouldn't do anything and maybe in the offices of Madison Square Garden they would read that and go Ok let's not do anything like. We love him here but can Bobby marks go you know run the Knicks I mean like it was and again it's not like teams make bad moves all the time but when you're a fan of a team and you see like art everybody else is doing stuff that makes sense and your team is the one in like the entire week that does something that everybody is laughing at so frustrating it's very frustrating especially sounds like for you he has been rated presented by Progressive Insurance straight ahead E.S.P.N.'s Dave McMenamin Yes we're talking about him being a summer league game but Dave also thinks the Celtics maybe made a big mistake it's next on e.s.p.n. Radio. It's time for some straight talk you love your phone right now absolutely I'm watching highlights on it right now but I'm guessing you don't log your big ole expensive wireless plan with all the mystery fees and dad over Ginn's on your bill every month now tell me about it well what if I told you green that you can keep the phone