The democrats hell their final well get reaction from Carly Fiorina, who is a clinton critic, but first ed henry has the debate highlights from manchester, New Hampshire. Ed . Well, chris, its unlikely very many people were watching, in a move that critics say coddles Hillary Clinton, the frontrunner, a debate was held late on saturday night, this time before christmas. So when clinton said its simply because of glitches shes unlikely to take the heat, on the key issue, that clip you played where we are where we need to be in terms of a strategy, her staff quickly clarified she meant the u. N. Resolution to get a political solution in syria, but there could be damage from that in the general election, and its interesting that they all three hes dominating the debate on both sides. Mr. Trump has a great capacity to use bluster and bigotry to inflame people. He is becoming isiss best recruiting. Secretary clinton is too much into regime change and a little bit too aggressive without knowing what the unintended consequences might be. Yes, we could get rid of assad tomorrow, but that would create another political vacuum that would bennett isis. We need to focus on destroying isil, but we shouldnt be the ones declare that assad must go. On the fiery issue, but aides to bernie sanders, peopling into a database, trying to get access, and apparently getting some access to the clinton playbook, sanders apologized and quickly moved on, even though there had been all this hype off, it was a reminder very similar to the first democratic debate, where sanders said he didnt care about the clinter emails, even though theyre under fbi criminal investigation, the bottom line is the latest fox poll shows clinton beating sanders by 22 points nationally, but lets not forget at this same point in 2007, a the Washington Post abc news poll found clinton was winning by 29 points over a young senator named barack obama. Chris . Ed henry reporting from manchester, ed, thanks for that. Joining us here, Carly Fiorina. Ms. Fiorina, welcome back to fox news sunday. Thank you for having me. I want to pick up on exactly that comment that we have referenced a couple times, Hillary Clinton in the debate saying we are now where we need to be in fighting isis. Year reaction . Incredible, honestly somehow a u. N. Resolution about syria puts us where we need to be . I think its a reflection of obamas beliefs that our Foreign Policy gets set by others. This is what leading from behind means, i guess. She failed to mention in last nights debate that her agreement with a precip tis withdrawal and declaration of victory in 2011 helped left baths of territory and weapon sill for isis. She failed to mention that she described assad as a reformer in opening an embassy. She failed to mention a complete failed strategy in libya, which is enibling isis to move into libya. Shes gotten every single Foreign Policy challenge wrong, and no, mrs. Clinton, we are not where we need to be in the fight against isis. Almost acts as if he was the she desperately hope she runs against donald trump. I, however, am the lump of coal in mrs. Clintons stocking. And why doi you this think that is she would like to run guess donald trump, but not you . She can beat donald trump. Donald trump cant beat Hillary Clinton, and she doesnt want to run against me, because i can i will force her to fight on ground. I will force her to fight on the ground of her Foreign Policy mistakes. I will force her to fight on the grounds of he lices, whether its about emails, servers or benghazi. I will reveal over and over again the clinton way dish say what you have to say to get elected. Lie as long as you can get away with it. I will force he to run on accountability for the clinton way. Lets turn to the your debate, the Republican Debate about how you would fight isis. Heres a clip. Bring back the warrior class, petraeus, mcchrystal, keene, flynn. Every one was retired early, because they told president obama things he didnt want to hear. Now, it is true that some of those generals did leave over policy differences. Four out of five. Keene had already left. Well, three out of five. Petraeus really left because of scandal, also the mishandling of classified information. By the way, accomplice clinton still hasnt been indict indicted over the same things, so perhaps petraeuss dismissal was convenient. I dont know. I would say theyre being handled very difficultly by this administration over arguably the exactly the same issue, which information says his never spoken to i was certainly right about the fact. I was naming the five warriors of our generation who have experience, four out of five i would argue were retired early out of the Obama Administration because they said things the Obama Administration didnt particularly want to hear, but all five have real experience. All five of them have been highly critical of both mrs. Clinton and barack obama, and all five of them have said we are not doing what is necessary to lead and to defeat isis. One of the other points you made in the debate, as president , you would work more closely with the tech world, as you say you did as the head of hewlettpackard after 9 11. Debate. The private sector will help, just as i helped after 9 11, but they must be engaged and they must be asked. I will ask them. I know them. In that case you were turning over equipment as the head. Hp. Now were talking about whether to turn over using information, whether to unlock encryption. Thats a very different ask, and they dont want to do it. Actually were talking about other things, chris. This is why its helpful that i understand technology. Hillary clinton tried to issue the same line last night and then had to quickly say i dont understand much about technology, because she doesnt. Let me give you an example of what im talking about. When we miss with all the metadata collection weve had. The San Bernardino couple and the tsarnaev brothers, what that the wrong ago riches to search through all this data. Algorithms have come a long way since 2011 or 2006, or 2007. In fact 9 private sector is improving their algorithmic ability to search through data. Its not that people are bad, its that government bureaucracies crush innovation. We are fouling further and further behind. Meanwhile, the terrorists are keeping up. We have been through four and five generations of Technology Since the patriot act. While lawyers are arguing about the patriot act or the america freedom act, the terrorists and technologists have moved on, and we are not taking advantage of technology. You clearly have forgotten more than i have ever known. Or any of my opponents. Isnt it were talking about Companies Like google and apple about user information about the ability to key to unlock encryption. They have refused to do so. Im not say that isnt true. What im saying is the private sector has not been engaged, but tim cook, for instance, has repeatedly refused to give that up. Hes been asked a very public question, and tim cook has refused in public. I dont blame him for that. I will guaranteed you there are all kinds of things that the private sector can be doing to be helpful, and they have not been engaged. In world war ii and were at war now. In world war ii, the government went to the private sector form the government asked the private sector for help in doing things the government could not do. The private sector complied. That is what i am suggesting. Trust me, for example, theres a whole company that does nothing but derive and creatal go riches to search through big data. Were not using their capabilities. For heavens sake, some of this is just ineptitude. I good go to social media, check out my granddaughters new boyfriend, but the Homeland Security cant figure out they need to be tracking they jihadi web sites . Some of this is bureaucratic ineptitude and a great deal is an administration that doesnt understand the urgency of the situation, and therefore this administration has not reached out actively to the private sector and said we need help. Supporting you, so its separate, is now running an ad which linking you pretty directly to margaret thatcher. Heres a clip. Margaret thatcher once said she was not content to manage the decline of a great nation. Neither am i. Ms. Fiorina, respectfully, isnt that a little over the top . First of all, its not my ad. I understand. Secondly, many people have commented on the comparison. Im flattered by it, frankly. Margaret thatcher was a great leader for her nation at a pivotal and a perilous time. So i find the comparison flattering, but thats up to others to say whether that comparison is justified. They have a quote from you in the speech where youre talking about margaret i quote her frequently. And then sort of comparing her hardline view and your repeatedly, tested conservative leader. Margaret thatcherwon the faulklands ward, and stood with bush to kick Saddam Hussein out of kuwait. First of all, she had done none of those things until she was elected. By that definition she wasnt tested, either. I have been tested in many ways, personally i have beaten breast cancer, i bur buried a child to addiction. You cant go to the chief executive of the Largest Technology of the company in the World Without having been tested over and over and over. Im being tested in this campaign as well. So nobody need to worry about my toughness. Not ive been tested, these pivotal times means something other than a politician. I understand the i have a lot of Foreign Policy, i understand technology, and i understand leadership. Ive made tough calls and tough times and been held accountability. I think that is the kind of leadership that the American People need now to produce results. Finally when i told people i was going to be talking to you, a lot of them raise this point. There was a point in which you were really high in the polls, and you have slipped considerably. In iowa, i know you dont Like National polls, so were going to look at early state polls. In iowa, it shows you in seventh place, down from third at 10 back in early october. In New Hampshire now running eighth with 4. 7 , down from second, with more than 14 . Youre a numbers person. What happened . Hold on to and build what a couple months ago was a really strong position . Its interesting, if you look at the polling, there are kind of four people up at the top, and then theres me and about three governors. Im perfectly happy with that position, honestly, when i started this race, i was 17 out of 16. The pollsters didnt even ask my name, because so few people knew me. Frankly all the pundits and d. C. Insiders thought i wouldnt ever be standing on the main stage. I am and i will stay there. I see in iowa building crowds. I just came from iowa yesterday. You know what i heard over and over and over again . Now im really paying attention. People make up their minds late. If the polls at this stage in earlier races were true, we would have had president howard dean, president giuliani and by the way we would have already had president obama clinton. Merry christmas, safe travels. And i met your adorable grandchildren. You are a lucky man. Yes, we should say the wallace grandkids this is a deep tease will be on the program. Youre in for a treat, folks, theyre really cute. They all take after other people, not me. Up next or sunday group weighs in, and the cruz rubio fight, plus what do you think . Who were the winners and losers of this weekss two debates. And use the fns. This is a story about doers, the artificial heart, electric guitars and rockets to the moon. Its the story of america land of the doers. Doin it. Did it. Done. Doers built this country. The dams and the railroads. John henry was a steel drivin man hmm, catchy. They built the golden gates and the empire states. And all this doin takes energy no matter whos doin. Theres all kinds of doin up in here. Or what theyre doin. What the hecks he doin . Energy got us here. And its our job to make sure theres enough youre never going to be president by insulting your way to the presidency. So far im doing better. It doesnt matter. You started over here, jeb, moving over further and further. Pretty soon youll by off the end. Trying to jumpstart his campaign and trying to shut him down. Its time for our sunday group, fox news senior political analyst brit hume. Julie pace who covers the white house for the associated press. Syndicated columnist george will, and political analyst juan williams. Lets start about the republican it shows trump is in and out at 39 . I think its fair to say you had doubts early on about the viability of donald trump. Fair to say you can win the nomination. I remember saying i thought it would be a while, but i didnt know the while would be this long, or this much with us. I think its distinctly possible. We have now reached the stage where National Polls matter less than they have, because its not a series of state by state contests. The picture may be somewhat different. Iowa is up fifth. Ted cruz is doing very well out there. Its certainly possible he could win the state and the question then becomes would that puncture this invince ebbet aura that donald trump has had about him long, is now higher in the National Polls. I think its clear that fair to say open contouch, but as they read these polls, did they begin to thing they were slow to recognize something going on in this country . Youll often here the president talk about things that are said and now youre seeing that a lot of americans do connect. I also think, though, that the white house and Clinton Campaign think they could easily beat donald trump and they could use what hes saying now to cast all of the republicans in the same then there was the faceoff, fascinating faceoff during the debate between marco rubio and ted cruz over the question of immigration reform. Here is just a taste of that. Does ted ted do not intend to support legalization. But its more complicated than that. It now turns out back in 2013 when the senate was debating comprehensive immigration reform, cruz offered an amendment which would have allowed the 11 Million People in this country illegally to gain legal status. Here is what cruz says, here is what he was forced to say this week. They would still be eligible for legal status, indeed under the terms of the bill, they would be eligible for lpr status i oppose amnesty, i oppose citizenship, i oppose legalization for illegal aliens. I always have and i always will. George, how much trouble is cruz in on now to the immigration issue . To what degree has rubio at least succeeded in muddying up the deferences between them . Its certainly a muddy situation. This, by the way is what were talking about. That is the Senate Immigration bill. You have to pick that up here it is. 1,197 pages of comprehensive immigration reform. This is the bill theyre talking about. Back in 2013. Exactly. You want to know the average annual wage of an immigrant animal sorter should be . By the way its all in here. The senators know everything. Thats why it had to be that big. The question is, was ted cruz trying to kill a bill with an would forever preclude a path to citizenship, which we should point out is what the democrats were demanding as their part of the deal. Precisely. So ted cruz was being disengenous when he said i offer you this, knowing it would drive away democratic support and kill the bill. If youre splitting an amendment thats a poison pill, something designed to kill the bill, you have to deny what you are manifestly doing. Now, he has in his defense, he can say, leaf, Jeff Sessions understood, he supported me. Jeff sessions, the senator from alabama who is a fierce critic of legally legalizing illegal immigrants. And Chuck Schumer recognized what i was doing so, so it was transparent. The request you asked, will it hurt him . I suspect not. Procedures xepd ted cruz looked eye what he really is, a talented lawyer. Therefore, to the extent he looked to be finally parsing different words, he looked lawyerly, and thats never a good thing. You can weigh in on that our talk about the democrat ecdebate. Let me quickly say i understood it differently. He may have been disingenuous and lawyerly, but i think he went on the record and said that it was not a poison pill, that he was not trying to kill the bill, and that would have allowed it to go forward. For now for him to go back and say he wasnt forward as soon as possible toe expedient and political in touch, because rubio cant get away from his support for the immigration i will say this about last night with mrs. Clinton. You opened up with Carly Fiorina saling we got the right strategy postparis. Were finally where we need to be, with the u. N. And Obama Administration looking at taking a more aggressive stance and some of the arab cunning coming together, but clearlile polls suggest and americans thing we still dont have a strategy sufficient to give them assurance about isis type of attacks. You got to know, brit, the republicans will jump all over that and say we have isis where we want them . Really . When you come out and say we are where we were to be regard to a strategy against isis, i think the American People as a whole and sen the rep candidates will have a field for that. I dont think anybody thinking that. Well, last night the democrats thought she portrayed her as the hawk on the stage, too much into regime change. That gives you a sense that the Democratic Base doesnt have a problem with it. I understand that but the Democratic Base shes fine, as far as theyre concerned. The question for her is, can she expand on that to be a majority. She faces a problem that barack obama did so brilliantly well,