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the government is describing as two chairs. installed launches a series of air strikes on targets in week out straight for the reaction to the deadly shooting of an extravagance. i am up and fussed i kept on in a yet and says to our top story and un officials have confirmed the discovery of mass graves in south sudan as fighting continues noble's new nation opponents call it somehow struggle between presidents of the key acting to annie's duet expected to be re admission. the un and human rights cases of mass grave containing about seventy five bodies were recovered and been to the country's oil rich units nice to eat at least another two grants have been reportedly found in cuba meantime there are growing allegations that dean elements of the security forces have been rounding up the land and killing them this exclusive report from a team on the ground in chiba sunday looking at croft stay awhile. on the un updates mend something new an ethnic group which helps team for then i need some changes on the madras rampage who want to work. a lot. heart is burdened by one one two one like a fool fight and do you hear the gun show them enough to lay down for five min to one of the gun show. what was next to that i thought um i'm going to die last night. for some quite old. was waiting for me. you can do with being short and i have to take a break. my friends which was little bum. it's not just names the house to house detainees to survive this with multiple gunshot wounds it kind of a two hundred and fifty mm and one head isn't with police station where all that well granted to the mets tickets. on two under seventy five people and i knew it meant that the fun. instead i live now. so what mobile so short it was horrible because just a voice that i have to cover yourself with the bodies of dead people without injuring the two day stop lol. nobody stopped to smell really bad. is this some are just going to talk about stuff like that. shorts off. the army did knights team to an immense domenici had anything to do with the kings came to pass the statesman named criminals some of you may have stolen an army uniforms news just coming in. senior un official biased self seed and a sign that no doubt thousands on to it as result of the ongoing on its. in the central african republic tensions remain high despite the deployment of peacekeeping troops from africa and france. the latest incident eddie and his kid is fond of the crowd demonstrating against the cousins think of the bone gain political and religious leaders have now let it cool the cakes my brothers and sisters from central african republic began to liz who live on terror or treat. my aunt called me to preach love to love each other. the wood in it. it's the only poll that it was taken upstairs unit. and scott rolen aim is to consolidate its national unity. they don't. both her and that we demand that the music and singers forces deployed in the country as well as on defense and security forces. mabel took effect in may. we simply ask what is false is to be able to disarm those who commit serious atrocities the typical method that would be. it is possible to reach outside and wants rebuild this country to pretend to know what the will. even if they're all the misc johnson guard forces on the ground the summer months will only happen if i can treat convinced it will lock them up. in other news of these four people were killed and schools of others injured when a powerful car bomb exploded in front but please take what is in the egyptian city of men serve. in term time mr has and that guy is calling it an act of terrorism. the text of the security forces have gone up since the only remains just that it's because of the common mostly in july. no group has claimed responsibility surely sit on reports the on tuesday morning crowds gathered to see the devastation in broad daylight. among them the interior minister the bombing hit police headquarters and run down parts of a neighboring building. the injury and government excuse the muslim brotherhood orchestrating the attack. the group. and the bombing. still many of those gathered in the neighborhood called for offense. raise your voice minister of the real test of the blade. according to investigators the perpetrators used car bomb for the plants residents here say the explosion is the worst and sora has ever seen the most from the laundry got scared and started running when we heard the sound of the explosion and then we knew that the explosion happened here he was awful and scary loved them. most of the casualties were policemen state media reports of the head of security for the province is among the injured. since the army ousted president muhammad more scene july attacks by islamist militants and soldiers and policemen have risen sharply. when sauron muslim brotherhood stronghold was hit by a smaller car bomb several months ago. three policemen were also killed by masked gunmen in october. stingrays in israel has launched a series of strikes on targets in the gaza strip in retaliation for the deadly shooting of an israeli civilian. hamas officials said the rates could at least two people including a young girl and wounded nine. this is the heaviest clear up the bonds among the foliage home or that in months the more mystery that fast express but here is not what interests them. there is some what effect the spot this latest round of violence the only team to come from nowhere lol but oh how weak we have helped more can you hear of it than in previous day. what we call with the shooting that not the shooting of a victory the contractor working to repair but in the cleaned up a new trial which was damaged in the tibia to home the two cricketing days ago. he was the villain would go on his fifth day of work and he was killed then we'd be now if they will penetrate the retaliation if strike in the gaza strip and all that women can't drive truck came to help hide the street there was no entry by freight rates but the weapon attack in which a three year old girl was killed when her mother twelve and another man in the north of the gulf no one in sentences has launched a nice christmas celebrations in bethlehem which causes of the west bank if you get a pic. the pilgrims had knowing that they live in a collective that happened three or four weeks ago that life began canceling victory but the pilgrims take care of a i've been talking to them today they are there lived a firmly planted on paper him up on christmas eve i don't think it's good to have much impact. in addition the blog and they cannot be here and it definitely provided for. reporting live from jerusalem thank you the only gal force winds and heavy rains afraid to have a composite fronts in the uk across five countries transports been disrupted hundreds of thousands of homes without power. at least seven people have been killed her shoulders and that's how small. lol it turns to winter wonderland. mortensen is thanks to encrypt or to put me to fourteen holy. but it's well built and in some cases vehicles to stop themselves what do we go to rebound and was in the morning we don't have recently caught up in an intimate yet it doesn't matter it's a very natural things that were asked themselves how did this happen whether we know it won't it be that good the west to st in suppressing the normandy were among the one escaped windstorm to meet uncle billy wayne is up to one hundred and twenty km around le across the country on tuesday two hundred and thirty thousand rooms but the howler. around twenty two puppets beyond all reason the second highest level field season with the connector trail of destruction in its wake. we had a lovely sort of them of stuff sounds and the tree had to form amongst the lakers reef. this house until the hills. the teenager dealing with one of the stone walls crumbled. the coolest briefly explains. across the journal's severe weather cools need to travel problems in person at the peak of the christmas travel period several people mostly lines in weather related incidents hundreds of some mornings many of them so they are being issued across england and wales. the beleaguered storms is said to be meeting east but not before they put a damper on some people's christmas holiday celebrations. celebrating christmas and only names and doting mom for putting display some pastries but to confront the most popular christmas does the ashes of the cake made to resemble a result of its quota bush williams has been taking a look at how ships must not presume to tell about making them christmas time in the and the phone with autistic children dogs but we didn't make a simple lucia classic using chocolate mousse in a flat with this piece kit yuletide an old soap dish in a way out of them is the increase mr said to french households. their origins can be traced back to pagan traditions offending knots mom's to celebrate the winter solstice. start by making it sound as kids get to using aches child to concede that smothered the dog and a can of bananas souls realty not dictate to mitchelton nice. and speaking in the fridge for a few hours to set. it's nice to the molding you'll see that they skipped town on the estimates nine as a treat on the screen. the final touch. macie and festive decoration. its toughest test in a father christmas red hats and belts but yet you can add a little bit of icing sugar on the sides. though to the beach and there you have an easy simple to make each. what are your friends christmas does that is breaking. it's delicious and that's it from us in the newsroom days to change a thing. oh look it's a special year end edition of the show they were calling for world peace. when it's just that the key to these words shakespeare. report. jacinto us cents month for talks on how it can be encrypted. he supports and the land the euro. twenty eight in one place stays in everyone's head un headquarters york city. september the twenty fifth the undisputed star of the u n's annual assembly in ron's new reformist president kason mahoney paving the way for what would be in the end telephone conversation with his us counterpart the first of its kind since before the overthrow of the shaw barack obama audi has staked his position on the idea that he can. up to improve relations with the rest of the world. and so far he's been saying a lot of direct links. and the question now is can he follow through you know the way that the iranian system works. he's not the only decision maker. he's not even the ultimate decision maker. the ultimate decision maker of course the bronze supreme leader ayatollah khomeini eight. in the increase for the key there was a deal signed in geneva. got the better of him well i'm not sure that we know that there was a deal to continue talking and eventually reach a deal. what they wanted to do with the americans wanted to do rather urgently was to stop the nuclear program of iran in its tracks because every day. they were moving closer and closer to a level of enrichment and quantity than its uranium had been given at least theoretically the ability to move from potential nuclear weapons to one or more nuclear devices and the americans and europeans wanted to stop that and that they succeeded in doing it appears. whether that deal will last. whether they can and dial back so that instead of being on the brink few weeks or months away from that nuclear threshold. you can pull around back to the year or two years away from the nuclear threshold. as can be one of the big issues going for supper we just all now in the meantime there's some sanctions relief. for iran and certainly that will help grow on me. honey has a lot of political enemies. a lot of people second guessing and maybe including ayatollah common name. and. obama administration is gonna have a helluva time getting anything productive through congress at the end of the day. so we're a long way from the final deal. this is just the beginning of the beginning. beginning as the beginning. nonetheless to see a thaw in relations. well yes there is because relations was so bad before i mean you have to remember that people drowned when the new job who was present for the last two times. i mean you look at him a new thought this is a crazy man probably in charge of the crazy country. and now i think people feel much more coke accountable in the united states with this sort of a particular almost grandfather lead rope on the coming forth. danny seems so reasonable and probably as reasonable compared to happen in a medina job. but um but at the end of the day. there are strategic imperatives and ambitions that iran has that are hard to argue with in the nuclear program is part of those and its nuclear programme of raw honey is us charm offensive included an open letter to the washington post where i was put forth as the prime motivator for that nuclear programme to us mastering the atomic fuel cycle in generating nuclear power is as much about diversify our energy resources as it is about who iranians are as a nation manfred dignity and respect and consequent place in the world. the richest in tow the dog whistle message even in summer nuclear power but the tallest messages is that this is about sovereignty. i made no mention of rights to peaceful a new piano the benefits and soviet supplies and new faces at the unite union ups the downs new fiance is in a steamy its imagine a passionate night indeed onion up in the opinion of the opinion gave me not like people i can include sad but that is often a simple fall in uk and indeed the lady onions do not forget is that they need and signed on to the npt the nonproliferation treaty the land beside the sea is re making the biggest noise again spaniard tia program bc countries that are not acting to the npt treaty is dead. get that happening here so then you die on the streets of the time no match to win the stand with the support i got a new way to get to my studies and a conservative or not. i knew it they do supply be a night too. i did a beast. a new piece clean ups. i scanned them into paxton both of the bomb. is it like. not such a big deal was that the stigma gone. not as if to say dying in the news looking at disneyland because you know that it entailed was sanctioned for conducting a test in nineteen ninety eight and has absolutely made into an hour you know that the release stated the tactic qaeda on the designation of pakistan has a different study but you know when i traveled into most of my eye. you know the nba. plus the added by the extremely crowded at all having the newquay about to say you know it today. top the list instead. on the streets of these countries. the jury's still out on whether this deal will lead to a real flying. of relations. the cure in klang on this lo my inkling that it is only christopher i think it's going to be extremely difficult and this is premised on a probation period. i name the probation in the real opponents oh one enron strength to get a different folks but israel show israel's but also saudi arabia is huge here goes. and that it away when these these negotiations will go in on saudi arabia was packing up some sort of deal with pakistan's it will get the one to counter iran fine you know what will supply with supply you with the warheads. i think this unit is a bigger strategic concern about what what what it all means and how all americans can pacify both sides with israel and on sunday and convince them of the sedan model something the other interesting thing about the kuwaitis the dishes and checked out was suddenly um francaise been transformed from a cheesy things surrender monkey you are really aggressive pool and it was doubtful whether it was a diplomatic deal on all that abuse position himself as the object of this to them and on the first offer and got some kudos from all full season in the states in the new republican. yes that is so i think it away what it was happiness in the six month probationary period away from is that the world and a new police knew the fact is coming in and taking the basic issue so it's way beyond this the technical not all. you know how many days to the full enrichment and so on and it means a lot of other strategic issues and local political issues. pressing on the master here it is a very happy with the deal and as you say you mentioned both israel and saudi arabia in the same breath. um he can seem like an odd to see israel's prime minister into the best husband gets gallagher family. openly endorsing the policies of saudi arabia. on the top. i'm not going to call telling the truth even if it's not often so happens that i'm not honest with those lovelies from just about every country there will be revoked if the soul to soul can lead some to the us open. what does one country that doesn't agree with him about it sooner. take a piece at the beginning. see israel and saudi arabia. or as ch seven the beds the two countries that the persians don't want to mess with. palm. when you can use th have a country where people say they have a nuclear weapon just a matter of national pride. in my opinion you have a problem. a real elemental problem of which escaped notice in this content is the case here france and the french capital. i take connor to do here having been around during the disarmament talks between reagan and gorbachev and watching. war and for all the problems that go on in russia the soviet union and united states. there was the fact that the two global leader. wheelock. at that time for me and proud. i'm having. macular weapons ended each other. was over. that not only was this a waste of time and resources are extremely dangerous. but that the world was changed. and it was time to move on. to me having lived through that uncovered that for some ten years. i she was going on here is another rich are rich in a part of the world that is exceedingly dangerous that word which escape notice in all of this hoopla. over new look or rainy. is that this is a country that still watch a weapon eyes. nuclear capability now that we should get up. i don't believe them through the eye. clinton saying no. well the game to play for samoa scotland on a show in florida to realize that you can say that but it's not it's not just that the official position is that they don't want nuclear weapons that they're against it that they're against an arms race in the region. it's been it's a sophisticated and very tricky game. they want to be just at the point where they can get nuclear weapons without having them and keep things in that sort of suspended moment for a long time. that's the most advantageous position because especially to get sanctions lifted. they're a big country that i can discuss about eighty million people. they have a huge economy potentially if the sanctions are lifted. they are an oil power. anything can happen that aaron possibility of the that they might have nuclear weapons. and that gives them a level of security that they would rather have otherwise had but it's not that they don't have an arsenal. and they say specifically they don't want and i hope you're right trish. but i think history will prove. then you're wrong but i do i do hope you're right there and if i am wrong what do we do. i don't know indeed the case said netanyahu. it was just me hinting that he would do something he knows what to do don't get involved in a war oh is he well he will be the growth of chinese. to get it on. i know he is not delusional and that the saudis the saudis and the israelis are both concerned about iran being a nuclear power. they are deftly concerned about that but their common interests in there well i bet that's the nature of the alliance with the nature of the middle east is in that equation changes all the well exactly in him. i mean that's the point and what we see now is seen in three dimensional chess so you know. so what what does what does it. what interests of israel daunting it is his robotic on one with a beer on the defeats all them of the muslim problem. and you you've got all sorts of strange alliances in what way does israel stand on the opposition and syria become a common cause with the anti she acts so i mean you go to i whole new set of relationships. you mentioned syria there is the wrong course backing hezbollah which has been involved in syria. the geology of the wrong deal brings us back to her re fix nerve gas attack in the suburbs of damascus. one that prompted the us with france but it's time to tend to drop support for air strikes. one uk lawmakers voted no. obama knew he perhaps talked himself into a corner. so how would you get out of it. i've long believed that our power is rooted not just in our military might. but in our example as the government of the people. by the people and for the people. that's why i've made a second decision i will seek authorization for the use of force. from the american people's representatives in congress of course we all know what would happen next in with it the economist course an obliging by voting no. in january first ever syria peace complex ways. both sides and soon come to tease schedule unclear though whether it be wrong and said he rated it were mentioning will be at the table. what is clear is that the momentum shift the day on one side the son of god was strong on the other side the terrorists and in the middle of the moderate opposition to support the opposition has defied one fronts yet to find solutions with daybreak on the cake and equipment. or is it. this is the look and with blinders just in iran. then you could say. two thousand thirteen was the year were positive things happen. of course you can experience the equation. you get the feeling that things if anything are becoming more and more polarized. well you know it is all very complicated and that's one of the reasons that the congress voted down any military strike in syria. because the american people don't want these complications anymore. the recent polls show that the majority of americans basically think the rest of the world can do fine without us. what if we get involved with any other place in the rest of the world. we should do it jointly with other countries so we are not solely responsible is the wrong time a policeman and one of the entire globe and you look at situations like syria and you start to second guess the american on that once the glue and see where the good guys for this is the funniest the senate bill yes there are people in between the two hottest in the hand side of a lot of them are islam and since i love the sand. and where do you go with all how do you pick and choose and develops them to become a colonial power with colonial representatives who can decide who does all this is the c i a smart enough to do this i don't think so. and i don't think the saudis are either so what we're looking for and looking at is the situations can be a prolonged conflict and very bloody one. we're all gonna feel terrible about it nobody's going to do anything about it. it's gonna be very much like the balkans were in the mid nineteen nineties as good as you mentioned the ball since the kopi this we need long expanse of what happened what could be done too. at that stephen shore. i agree with chris on this point i don't think there is anything that can be done the balkans was in two different kettle of fish. in that if you were saying the same things. a well in that it was part of europe in hand and the europeans were as the rush the world were they didn't like seeing genocide in there and cried. on the other the difference with the balkans. he is like bill clinton or not politically he was a global leader at the time. and the way he brokered by what happened first the dollar's turbulent cost of oil was in my opinion of a brilliant piece of global statesmanship in the application of of of power in a region of military might that we know where it needed to be i don't she said jets and sent the first century israel course the oscars was just saying it would be the art of doing well which was followed up with ground troops. remember there were okay for boys what they were well over ten thousand over ten thousand they were peacekeeping they were there with the sleepy there were a peacekeeping force. but there was a lot of special ops on the ground during a bombing in it during those days of bombing quite a few special ops leadership lacking right now. we are where we're going to take a break will pick up stay with us much more to come here looking at the world this year i asked him to. off. it seems. i do. the school close the gap keeps you up to date with all the latest from the world of sport. all the action. all the results of all the emotion chilling got meeting for his all round cause i can't overcome. i did. maybe i will welcome back to the news when the cycle of what's making news this am mass graves uncovered in south sudan is fighting continues between rebels and soldiers most of its output. things have two missiles at the end is getting our tickets and asked is it the south sudanese capital cheap. well said twelve people killed and scholes up was injured when a powerful car bomb exploded in front of treats cake with this new kitchen city that certain evidence describing it as an act of terrorism launched a series of air strikes on targets in gaza strip in retaliation to differentiate the israelis that the new hamas officials defend the rights that killed at least two people taking a cab and go wow. none of us former oil tycoon mikhail because he has applied for showing these to the swiss embassy building. fifty year old has been staying in berlin since russian led me to his surprise decision to switch to free him of that decade the gel on fraud and tax it. as the well is to celebrate christmas that is the type being devastated regions of the philippines open doors and she did not know well. that's it for most of the morning is that the al welcome back. you're watching the world's least a year and with this talk about the events of the last twelve months has been the key of the daily beast. welcome back as well to patrick smith of the africa report religious cent of calls and text dot com and create a piece of quartz and the atlantic for the break are talking about the situation syria the pendulum has swung else but two years ago at the same time. we were watching the spring and fall. one year ago. commenting on the ensuing victory of islam it's the ballot box and tuesday. on bits. you entered into a conflict with history if it was in conflict with the media. i was in conflict with the police. and you are in conflict with the opinion and again i went into conflicts of the armed forces attempted to stop the cooking time. instead of egypt's military telling the elected civilian president to pack his bags and go. christopher dickey um this is a kiss some might call a counter revolution. oh i think and thought that now. you could call it the overthrow of democratically elected president the first democratically elected president in the history of egypt or you could call it part of an offensive by some some parties including the saudis to try and crush the advances of the muslim brotherhood in the middle east he's having the most powerful country that has been run by the brother. so i think it was a lot going on there but when we see now is a military dictator who actually has pretty broad support. people in egypt got very tired very quickly of the ongoing chaos after the beginning of the revolution back and nineteen back in two thousand eleven. panda and a lot of people awful lot of people were ready for order to be restored and they didn't see that happening. the question now is whether this military regime can bring real stability to the country without using absolutely ruthless repression. and whether it will be able to rule. it's the muslim brotherhood was a very substantial organization. i'm wants to make. egypt on uncomfortable. and there is every sign that the us has experienced you agree that the mas mother was making to the moment this point. that's its name. recourse to help us support again and it's what options does it. i mean it's it's easier than it's been pushed on the ground it into the top eight is in its leadership in jail. he's going back to a period of oppression. so the tree almost a primo. as the danzig often among the masses. so um i think a couple of things going on at this festival is one always thought the muslim brotherhood one assists incredibly disciplined organization called tweets that are now being to its secular opponents us troops to be roman and it calmed down and crushed it so hard i think this set is that the second thing is that this sort of alliances is it's going to have already seen since the linchpin of the main group is now gone to the peak want the peace type group which is saying right we won nothing to do with the violent crowd which a few different men you've got a group of say leftists many of whom were well financed by saudi arabia. so i think that the danger is that the secularists place led by lcc. it is that he and his dishonest opponents announcements ring and regroup and i'm begun to cause trouble and a shawl i think you know that these elections this coming new year in two thousand and fourteen are likely to go well for him he's i think in all probability not meet sndar as president. and when the time that he's going to to set the scene on the political cost lulu's of those wounds have been opened opened up with the crossing of the brotherhood. i did it come back and be a perennial challenge. you really can't put a lid on it. i need to be and the most inventive and his aides that he has been around for a day games and knows how to function and kidnapping. i think this is this is the ad in which the strongest as you know wendy keen to find a collapse that has a surprising me another thing in that mission can say no when he talking about how often that the icc was in a surprisiny f outde and said this is the hand backpack that was used in now i didn't knew that being the brotherhood as a puppet so you know that this ought to as the eyes and says ties in with the saudi media supporting the south is an adnce on anti t senment tt is. i get on the scene two years after the enterprising the city of the ripple effect still way beyond beach. throughout the entire region. what happened in egypt begs the question is is arab democracy a contradiction in terms can ever happen. a year asians would like to hope so well yes there's a lot of hope more she was obviously democratically elected. and everyone applauded the question no one asked which more see anywhere close to a chair for sony and democrat or even a democrat along french or british watson i think the answer to that which no. a lot of critics. i'm not among them but a lot of critics believe that. to have a democracy. as we know it here in the west you have to have a really highly educated . curiously egypt. is one of the most highly educated populations there isn't gonna work alot has to do with the quality of leadership. we saw this i see what we sow with nelson mandela. i think after his death that's one thing to people talk about again and again including thousand obama in a speech said look this is a man who stayed just one time. he could've been dictator for life if he wanted to do until it was ninety five. but he stayed just long time and they're very few leaders in africa or in the middle between two constitution to mandela presides at one of the most liberal constitutions in the world and in the first a warning about mercy was that constitution way he fiddles baby a constituent assembly that was the first sign this guy wasn't really a democrat in any except it's sooo ok go two percent of the fifty percent mark but his actions his attitude to the press is added to the opposition said it was all said this guy is intolerant of god and that there is a clarion call for more. nelson mandela's that type of leadership. what do people get they get more seats than they can still see see and then they get kelsey six. aren't the current costs speaking of which france's president. he may be suffering from what the pollsters call mixing numbers home. malia school said it was flown on deploying forces chased islam is from the north of that land law west african state your furniture too. the woman finally i wanted to say to the molly and people who have come to me to thank fronds it is. that we um not done we will continue operations as long as the mommy and tara tree. he's not completely liberated. we will be on the side of the mom eons. the africans including buddies in northern mali. so that's no risk groups will be chased away to do is swap chass. the jury's still out of the weather knocked up old molly is a safe place to be. bugis and two were you surprised. this year by false float on by the french president's with his foreign policy. i have to say no. and yes mind as in the state to on nine two to be soawki but y seen what happened in my knee and the media. ii it seemed like it would be inevitably the tea break we didn't have any intention on the night i did it seeks i thought it would go and not more and smooth. he then made it onto its stated aim to work in progress. i think is fantastic and really i was even more surprising to guys make money you you know you had you had an idea of the standing monday. you had immunity in thai interests of the beach in the central african republic seen much on things you many new and human rights issue and you know how often do the neck just in the next you guys so i'll be back in having two friends in dimensions in a year. that surprise me i really did anything that i don't win if we have two operations in the end. you see here for a long long time in both molly and essential out of ideas and even longer than his announced an eighty eight is pretty remarkable. the friend she trots africa summit with examples the africa from summit is the perfect fit as it is it's a neat and absolutely love you talk to african diplomats and and politicians that they come locale that the two cross ball onto the front swallow name that was a man who wakes up in the morning is that when sending french troops in somalia and he wakes up the following morning's opening sending french troops into song for free. that and the next morning he wakes up has included a ten twenty thousand african soldiers first time by peacekeeping force. i'm suddenly the french foreign policy looks incredibly dynamic and decisive and a eunuch boosting the country's status in the world on my french domestic policy which looks indecisive very timid and cautious of presiding over the collapse of a lot of promises of reform and economic revival is this set of golf opening up between the two mag asset as you say with a mixed sunni and popularity numbers on somehow gotten used a set of external kudos to to boost his standing domestically so so what advice she strode on to the hospital. the issue. take off his mask and will see the real cheney holland is turned into to a neocon when it comes to africa. whether he's doing this for some moral imperative aah. what is curious about it for his free french values to atone for oh sure. oh sure you remember they use to control the area but that's only a little part of what i find curious about this. she's not airplane military vientiane to deploy a curious numbers of troops. he's really not the point all that many. yes sixteen. you know it started out at the end central african republic was too early to send two hundred talents to hear all the eyes of disunity of style. so there is an expression in american military circles when this happens is called mission creep and i hit the wall were going to see in the coming months is mission creep. sitting in here. at some point the french is not going to be replaced by which the stinky one of the motives of france's president when he intervenes in both his company says a lot. he was actually reluctant person alive. i think he probably has enough sense to know that these kinds of expeditions really not helping him domestically all his poll ratings and i'm going up as a result. sarkozy went to war and libya. it didn't help his poll ratings and all george h w bush won the war and in desert storm and it didn't help him. oddly enough wars months there over once they called them they don't tell people domestically. i think that i think that overall did feel him now. that was completely unacceptable the forest alive with a composed of al qaeda would take. the capital of mali and and basically had the entire country and tactics that was something that the french could not countenance nor the americans nor any other major power in africa or in europe. santa is this leila said. santa left republicans little bit different than true commitment is fairly small the moral commitment is errand day the question of the realpolitik if you will know why i france needs to get involved in the central african republic at this point is much less clear than it was a mom. saves lives yes but you know there's lots of lives that need to be saved around the world and people don't get involved in these kinds of wars fence couldn't intervene in eastern congo for instance if it wants to save lives. there are lots of places that could go wind isn't weapon in why now. maybe because relatively speaking. this often happens they think it's the place they can save lives. fairly easily. or you can be cynical about it when as many nations are what profit. in this adventure for french with an authentic well. the curious thing about the central african republic. it's one of the few african nations in front of the steps the tip your time where there is no chinese or outside for four and development money in there that natural resources of the central african republic which are attached to timber oil et-cetera. all i have not been taxed. and it's one of the few countries in africa that the chinese for obvious reasons have not yet gone into soap. military adventures. because it's insane. well he's not exactly exactly so this is a toe hold what research. so destabilizing for the chinese i am going on in august it's just been done before of course the backlash from other people that the french chased out of northern mali team elsewhere with a storming in chandler algerian natural gas complex radicals and the rebels somali take the eight hundred workers hostage. algeria refusing to negotiate in the end of east thirty two on skills along with thirty seven hostages. then later in september and the three day siege of nairobi westgate shopping mall seventy two killed mostly civilians. and some gung tweets by the way from somalia's of shoe bomb militia. freezing the work of what they call the whiskey warriors that is the direct path is the news just into both enter you covered. that seems at the westgate mall so you get the sense with the business studies is trying to whack a mole different from one place that pop up in an eighty eight and one of the masses unless it's in the wise than we have a real nice about the income to tennis at this this and not to focus on a kite in yemen because the idea seemed to present his trip to winston inches high distinction in the badlands of a piece that because i can dance and i mean sometimes it has been illegal because so mine is the son of country dance. it is seen as opiates. i haven't managed to get their act together for the past two decades. i mean osama bin london and the salt on it as that of the doubt since he's saying is housing a stunt new found the action of getting defeated to lepak and westgate change that. each of the units on issue with that this little group of four people eighty four people and acted that attack can get citizens. from our countries not necessarily on this line you know you thing you can get the two cities and us citizens. ii you know in in soundbites of the way we do not want to send the attention. and that you know some of the attack this could be your own citizens because he is seeing so many europeans and americans trying to make the week that this is. open that so many things that storm was coming home on that point for people in that. so when we see the images in the course of twenty four hour news channels were on the story of course and you get the sense that there's this mass uprising of radicals. then when you discover that only four people inside. so what's the truth. will the truth is that they were radicals their affiliated with a group like caution about but this was a very well planned out planned operation from their point of view in the canyon forces that tried to fight them we're very badly organized fought against each other mean kenyan army killed the head of the police unit that was going in after them the day for guys were not very well armed. they had long rifles they don't think i'll even let me mention they had pistols that maybe three or four grenades. the really scary lesson from this he is you could do it anywhere you go you to do in america you could do it in france as the chilling cascade effect on him by the way kudos to chris true story. the daily beast which is not one of these must reads. it's a tick tock of light on the new york police department detectives went over to find out you can learn from this. and we knew you could argue the politics in the groups on who is behind us until the cows come home. but the real thing a look at in each of these events is the cascade effect and that new york police department assessment that you've got hold of it was it it was gob smacking is the british the gob smacking reading. of course it can be done anywhere because he knew that is both false bomb to the police. in the spring the garden. the topic here's what's going on in china land reform boosting was the one child policy though some of the pledges and see what is coming out of the recent bottom of the communist party the change. the empire middle comes in increments is still unclear how far the new president though she's in pain. one entered office in two thousand thirteen. after pledging to tackle corruption in this new environment our party faces many serious challenges such as problems among party members with corruption. taking bribes being out of touch with the people on due emphasis on formalities and bureaucracy these must be addressed with great effort to shout outs to the uk. it's early days what's your hunch you dissent is she for real when he's in one sitting as they say because you know in china sydney did nothing the changes that can be. i knew was that i know what to start combing two with a ui painstakingly you come up with answers in advance of the changes saying as the youth league. what is the question. i seasoned the meat is eaten until it is in the reform is in a crackdown on corruption. i'm sure he wants to. i mean that i think he's he's probably even more. he's going to be more focused on making sure the anti corruption of protests in china. i kept on going to sell them on anything as i think he wants to be in china backed deal with this opening up that is probably happening with social media attention he needs to get a live axle because he didn't have but it isn't that bush and i and your obvious cases of corruption and a standing weekly be crackdown by the end i mean is that the uk now needs to teach been torn off that country and of course the year including lead to increased tensions with neighbors. most notably japan and south korea over disputed islands in the east china sea and. when you look at one of them muscle flexing that's going on sixteen. is that a sign that actually domestically on. he's trying to get on the ball or is it a sign of it. we don't really know where it's. i sat next to me. ms ong who is the native chinese policy in africa. and i asked him to question what does this to me and it was it mean for the rest of the welcome means for africa that the kidneys and actually you know it means absolutely everything from up country we've got a lot of economic problems which none of you outside is begin to understand in the provinces that had been in panties. we've got this big issue of shadows that in the bank's recall a lot of things we try to sort out when trying to turn the economy around. mr van exploded close to it immensely all those things are incredibly difficult and technically complex but also incredibly politically controversial. we've got this continuing migration from the hinterland to the seaboard no societies and their teeth at his peak he has reeled off this list of things before you even going to be in the regional problems is that so then we get from regional problems and andy's as i can the government they they they they they have the contest made it to seek to boost their legitimacy by him. bye bye acting tough. that's that's that's necessary and we've got you know how china relates to the rest of asia a lot of questions and how it relates to the world's biggest democracy in india let alone enough that that you get the china relates to the united states up to that europe and it's a long long list of primary he said you know the focus is absolutely domestic going in and we knew the one point three billion people. connie that's half has lots of big problems coming up. they didn't have to post on that and to focus first on the top and then just won lost the no mistake if we touch on the issue political reforms not even on the agenda set it on abortion it seems not married on the agenda we ask our panel for with their most noteworthy story of the story view was incredible to see a single time. for two reasons first of all. china is. hold on african economics growing all the african economics it's very big. and the second thing about china which i discover is reporting from their earlier this year that young chinese politicians and businessmen along with a lot of western businessmen there are no longer embrace the jefferson on the model of democracy the way forward. here is another model. it's the chinese market. and you see more and more people going along with rich china china has the power right now your system for all its warts people believe it works and works well for the students go around the table religious entity the most noteworthy story and cover it up at the whiskey my question so good as i said i you know it's silly as that you cannot overlook the squad as they began to open them. patrick smith a notice to the supplement here on a un canada you know what to cover the kenyan elections would be coming on about i think the focus is on this international criminal court in its future. and it was put in bolton's me by european civil service and why did the loop and we ate the western nation to get behind international criminal court and black american to join up or it's going to be calmness and judicial equivalent of you need is one of the incident will fulfill all my bases actually doesn't do anything except provide a lot of civil servants with a decent salary tax rates on it this was true we haven't talked about it he certainly didn't overlook it. you're on st peter's square for the election offences tonight was the one that was a great moment and singers present the most a couple days later. all of that was really very moving and i'm not catholic. i'm not really even christian. but i was fascinated by the power of his personality his ability to address people in the contest with ratzinger with benedict the sixteenth who came before him. mr spoke this is a pope who who could change is changing the image of the cherokee may change some of the substance. and he may have a very profound effect on people around the world i think is really somebody to walk. it's more faith in him and she's in england i find it easier to pronounce his name to this particular thank you religious into cricket because patrick smith. thank you and for those of you who are catholic merry christmas and thank you for joining us here for the world to see the court. mason. it is in two thousand thirty. what you've just needs a major reports. this is one of them to that is asked of course quite right too high. well the new naturalist in trials deployments against women in india. we're in the end of two thousand the team. we live two thousand thirty two biggest news to me is. but to go. i will. it is. is this in this. it is. she is. and to be. sea and sailing has declared victory and a washington post interview the nsa whistleblower said accomplished all times he felt that the reporter who met with the main acts. and billion dollar bonus is wall street bankers are pondering how to spend our holiday bonus is 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