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speech and look at how he and the democratic party plan to confront the trump white house. we will speak to sanders advisor larry cohen, national nurses united head roseann demoro, and california's senate president kevin de leon. but first here in marrakesh we speak to mary robinson, the former president of ireland. >> i realized when i read the science, we are running out of time. has been said often now during this year, we're the first generation to fully understand the dangers of climate change and the last generation with time to do something about it. and that time is now. amy: that was mary robinson a year ago at the climate talks in paris. now she is saying the united states will become a rogue state if donald trump follows through on his threat to pull the u.s. out of the paris climate accord. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from cop22 in marrakesh, morocco. a member of donald trump's transition team, kansas secretary of state kris kobach, says the team is moving ahead with plans to build a wall across the entire length of the u.s.-mexico border, and to reinstate a registry for immigrants from majority muslim countries. kobach is an architect of anti-immigrant laws. following 9/11, he helped design the registry for immigrants from majority muslim countries, known as the national security entry-exit registration system, the system was dropped in 2011 after years of criticism from civil rights groups. on wednesday, carl higbie, a spokesman for the pro-trump great america pac, defended the proposed registry by citing world war ii japanese internment camps while speaking with fox news's megyn kelly. >> we did in world war ii with japanese. well it what you will -- >> you're not proposing we go back to the days of internment camps, i hope. >> i'm not proposing that at all. >> that is the kind of stuff that gets people scared, carl. >> i'm just saying there is president for it. i'm not saying i agree -- >> you can be citing japanese enterment camps as preced anything the president-elect is going to do. >> he has to protect americans first. until we can identify the true threat and where it is coming from, i support it. amy: the "wall street journal" and the "washington post" have also reported that anti-muslim extremist frank gaffney has joined trump's transition team. gaffney's group, the center for security policy, has been labeled a hate group by the southern poverty law center. gaffney has denied being part of trump's transition team, but did tell politico -- "i look forward to helping the president-elect and the national security-minded team he is assembling in whatever way i can." students at as many as 100 colleges and universities across the united states wednesday held protests demanding their schools become sanctuary campuses that refuse to cooperate with immigration authorities carrying out trump's plan to deport millions of undocumented people. speaking on "60 minutes" sunday, trump vowed to immediately deport up to 3 million people. during his campaign, trump also said he'd reverse president obama's executive orders, which include the program daca -- deferred action for childhood arrivals -- which has shielded 750,000 young people from deportation. this is maria maes of columbia university. the am here to demand that president of the university of our school think is a sanctuary campus -- make the facing story campus and provide the financial undocumented and their ability to work with them. amy: in arizona, the tohono o'odham nation has said it will fight trump's plan to build a wall across the entire length of the u.s.-mexico border. the native american reservation spans 75 miles of the border, and the tohono o'odham's ancestral lands extend across both arizona and sonora, mexico. this is tohono o'odham nation vice chairman verlon jose. >> over my dead body -- i do not wish to die, but i wish to work together with people so we can theect -- truly protect homeland of this place they call the united states of america. not only for my people, not only for our nation members, but for the american people. amy: journalists are also fighting back against trump after he ditched his press pool for the second time in less than a week tuesday night. it's a long-standing tradition in u.s. politics that presidents and presidents-elect travel with a pool of reporters. in response, 15 journalism groups from the national press club to the society of professional journalists wrote an open letter to trump, saying -- "the role of the press pool is critically important to our country. this isn't about access for the press itself, it's about access for americans in diverse communities across the country." donald trump also bucked press traditions during his campaign, when he banned journalists from nearly two dozen media outlets from covering his events, including "the washington post." the leaders of the black lives matter network have issued their first statement on trump's election. in the statement, they called trump a white supremacist and said -- "today, like every day before it, we demand reparations, economic justice, a commitment to black futures, and an end to the war on black people in the united states and around the world. the work will be harder, but the work is the same." amy: in his first major address in tuesday's election, bernie sanders called on trump to drop his chiefnnon as strategist. we will have more on that beach later in the broadcast. here at the 22nd annual u.n. climate change summit, known as the conference of parties, or cop22, china's vice foreign minister has refused donald trump's claim that global warming is a chinese hoax. instead, liu zhenmin said -- "if you look at the history of climate change negotiations, actually it was initiated by the ipcc -- that's the intergovernmental panel on climate change -- with the support of the republicans during the reagan and senior bush administration during the late 1980's." opponents of donald trump have expanded their boycott of trump casinos, resorts, and hotels to include retailers selling products featuring the trump brand. using the hashtag #grabyourwallet, organizers are targeting 32 companies including macy's, amazon, and bed bath & beyond. the boycott comes as the trump family is accused of cashing in on donald trump's election victory. trump's daughter ivanka appeared alongside her father on "60 minutes" wearing a gold-and-diamond bracelet from her ivanka trump fine jewelry collection. the company later circulated an advertisement for the nearly $11,000 bracelet featuring a photograph of ivanka trump's appearance on the program. facebook is coming under fire from critics who say the social media giant helped swing the election for donald trump by failing to crack down on an epidemic of fake news articles targeting hillary clinton. such articles drew millions of clicks and featured such phony headlines as "fbi agent suspected in hillary clinton email leaks found dead in apparent murder-suicide." facebook said this week it will stop allowing advertisements to fake news sites, but ceo mark zuckerberg has denied the fake news played a role in trump's victories. one member of facebook's board of directors, peter thiel, supported trump's campaign with a $1.25 million donation. speaking via videostream at a conference in oakland this week, nsa whistleblower edward snowden warned that silicon valley companies like facebook have become too powerful. >> has enough power to reshape the way we think. well, i don't inc. i have to describe how dangerous that is. amy: meanwhile, twitter has suspended several accounts of prominent members of the alt-right movement, criticized for being a haven for white nationalists. but twitter has not suspended the account of steve bannon, donald trump's chief strategist and a leader of the alt-right movement. feminists and people of color have for years called on twitter to crack down on online harassment and abuse. this year, best-selling author and feminist writer jessica valenti quit using social media after she received a rape threat aimed at her child. white house officials have quietly admitted that president obama will no longer push for the trans-pacific partnership, known as the tpp -- meaning the massive proposed trade deal is effectively dead. it would have encompassed 12 pacific rim nations, including the u.s. and 40% of the global economy. in recent days, malaysia, vietnam, and japan have all backed away from the deal following the u.s. decision to abandon it after donald trump's election. the tpp has faced years of global public resistance by those who say free trade deals benefit corporations at the expense of health and environmental regulations. the trade deal was also lambasted by donald trump and bernie sanders on the u.s. campaign trail this year. lori wallach, director of public citizen's trade watch program, said -- "the unremitting push by the obama administration for the tpp right through this election helped to elect donald trump, but trump has not derailed the tpp -- people power united across borders did that." president barack obama is on his final presidential trip overseas this week visiting greece, germany and peru. on tuesday, obama spoke about trump's election in athens. pres. obama: i do believe separate and apart from any particular election were movement -- or movement that we are going to have to guard in a crude sort of nationalism or ethnic identity or tribalism that is built around an "us" and a "them." meanwhile, the guardian is reporting that president obama will not tighten rules governing the u.s. drone assassination program before donald trump's inauguration. the decision will leave trump with the world's most lethal program of targeted killings. the obama administration said this year that between 64 and 116 civilians have been killed in drone attacks since obama took office. however, monitoring groups estimate the death toll from drone-related killings is as much as 10 times higher than that estimate. in syria, activists say the government's renewed bombing campaign against eastern aleppo has killed at least 32 people and has destroyed a children's hospital, a blood bank, and multiple ambulances over the last two days. this comes after syrian or russian bombing destroyed four other hospitals across syria since sunday. russia has pulled out of the international criminal court, only one day after the court called the russian annexation of crimea an "occupation" in a report. philippines president rodrigo duterte said wednesday he might also withdraw from the court. the united states is not a member of the international criminal court, although, u.s. officials are currently facing the possibility of being prosecuted by the court for war crimes in afghanistan. kenya announced it's delaying the closure of the world's largest refugee camp for six months following widespread international pressure. as many as 300,000 somali refugees live in the dadaab camp, and its closure could force them back into war-torn somalia. back in the united states, the federal bureau of prisons has extended one of its contracts with the for-profit prison company corecivic, formerly known as corrections corporation of america. this comes despite the fact the justice department announced in august the bureau would phase out its contracts with private known as corrections corporation prison companies after finding higher rates of violence, abuse, and neglect in these facilities. in minnesota, police officer jeronimo yanez has been charged with second-degree manslaughter for the killing of african-american philando castile during a traffic stop. castile's death was live-streamed on facebook by his girlfriend, diamond "lavish" reynolds, in an extraordinary video in which she narrated the aftermath of the shooting while she was still in the car with a police officer pointing a gun at her and her four-year-old daughter as her boyfriend lay dying next to her. yanez has also been charged with felony charges of endangering the safety of reynolds and her daughter. it's the first time in at least 30 years that a police officer in minnesota has faced charges for killing someone while on duty, and comes after nationwide demonstrations protesting castile's killing. and president obama has awarded blackfeet nation tribal leader elouise cobell the presidential medal of freedom. she was the lead plaintiff in a landmark 1996 lawsuit claiming the u.s. department of interior had misspent, lost, or stolen hundreds of billions of dollars meant for native american land trust account holders dating back to the 1880's. after a nearly 15-year legal battle, the u.s. government settled for $3.4 billion, the largest government class action settlement in u.s. history. this is elouise cobell speaking on democracy now! in 2008. >> in our indian communities, people are living in dire poverty. people that have oil wells pumping in their backyards are not receiving their money. they don't have homes. they cannot send their children to school. it is a very sad condition. it does not take you very long to drive through in indian community and see all of these wonderful resources, but seeing our commuties living in dire poverty. after you find out and what we found up this lawsuit is the fact that while the government was just using our money to reduce the national debt. amy: that was elouise cobell. she died in 2011. other recipients of the presidential medal of freedom award this year include artist maya lin, actor and environmentalist robert redford, singer and songwriter bruce springsteen, and basketball legends michael jordan and kareem abdul-jabbar. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from marrakesh, morocco, the site of the u.n. climate talks or cop22, the conference of the parties. delegates from more than 190 countries are gathered here discussing how to implement the paris accord from last year. but questions are swirling over the future role of the deal following the election of donald trump who has vowed to pull the , united states out of the agreement. trump is a longtime climate denier. on wednesday, china's vice foreign minister rejected trump's claim that global warming is a chinese hoax. instead, liu zhenmin said -- international climate change negotiations began in the 1980's. secretary of state john kerry gave a major speech here in marrakesh. he referenced the election of -- he referenced the election, but did not mention the president-elect by name. >> i know it has left some here and elsewhere feeling uncertain about the future. i obviously understand that uncertainty. ande i can't stand here speculate about what policies our president-elect will pursue, i will tell you this, and the time that i have spent in public life, one of the things i have learned is that some issues look the little bit different when you're actually in office compared to when you are on the campaign trail. and the truth is, that climate change should not be a partisan issue in the first place. it isn't a partisan issue for our military leaders of the pentagon who called climate change a threat multiplier. amy: that is secretary of state john kerry speaking here in marrakesh. well, to talk more about donald trump, we are joined by mary robinson. she served as president of ireland from 1990 to 1997 and u.n. high commissioner for human rights from 1997 to 2002. she is president of the mary robinson foundation climate justice. welcome to democracy now! >> happy climate justice day, the first climate justice they at any cop. amy: congratulations on your new appointment. >> looking at the fact that el niño is very severe now and we think it is impacted by climate change in a way we don't fully understand, but it is devastating for about 60 million people worldwide. amy: so you're the high commissioner for human rights, the president of ireland. why is climate justice your issue? >> it is undermining human rights all over the world. people have to become much more resilient to cope with that problem. we need to be more people-centered and what we're doing and recognize all climate action has to respect all human rights. amy: we came from the united states to morocco to focus on this issue of climate justice, particularly, to bring the voices of the people. thousands come from around the world to deal with an issue that is in dispute in the united states, particularly when it comes to the president-elect. donald trump says he is going to pull out of the paris accord. your response? >> i am very encouraged by the steadiness here at the cop, to be honest, and governments are determined to go ahead. civil society, business, cities, and young people of a women, everybody is saying, this is far too serious. he world came to a paris agreement for 195 countries last december. we are now implementing and steps are being taken here in the cop to implement and that must go on. it is extremely important that we implement the sustainable development goals with its goal on climate change, and the paris agreement saying we have to be well below two degrees celsius of warming and try to get 1.5. that is one to be a tough agenda for the world. that is what is front and center here at the cop. amy: what if donald trump pulls out? what will that mean for the united states? what would be your response to that? >> i think would damage the image and revocation of the united states globally because the u.s. signed up for this important agreement -- in fact, had great leadership with president obama together with china and other major emitters and forceful in ensuring we got the agreement and were willing to have the of vicious goa that is in the paris agreement i think it would damage the country's reputation internationally. that is the truth of it. it would not stop the agreement from going forward at all. in the united states, yes cities -- i was honored recently by chicago. chicago's role as one of the cities. i know new york is the same. look at california. amy: what is the c40? >> connection of cities on climate. chicago is determined to be a leader on that. being the way forward that will create jobs in chico. amy: you have said if donald trump pulls out, it would make the u.s. a rogue nation. >> a kind of rogue nation. how can you sign up to something that is so important for the world, that the world knows is real and happening, and then somehow because somebody pretends to be blind to the consequences because of the lobbies surrounding him -- i'm afraid that is not acceptable to the world. what i'm worried about is the damage to the kind of role, leadership on values on the declaration of human rights. the united states has its own problem in human rights, but it is always been a leader in many values and many of these are more risk am especially in the united states. it is their problem more than a problem for the world, which will go ahead with the kind of agreement. amy: you have expressed great concern for refugees. how does the crisis of refugees and a the worst since world war ii, relate to climate? >> it relates very much. given the crisis of refugees. we also have a crisis of migrants who don't qualify under the refugee convention. many of them are in part at least driven by the impacts of climate change. in driven by very severe drought. some of it is internal. a lot of it is across borders as well as to there are 75 million people who live on coastlines around the world a meter or less above sea level. miami is part of that. unitedities in the states. we are in danger of getting to that one meter all too quickly. 75 million people might have to move. amy: i wanted to share a clip of donald trump on the campaign trail, who repeatedly said he would end all immigration to the u.s. by syrian refugees and others from what he called terror-prone nations. this is trump speaking last month. mr. trump: we are not going to take the risk when it comes to the safety of the american people no longer. so let me say this as clearly as i can. if i am elected president, i am going to keep radical islamic out of ourthe hell country. amy: that is donald trump speaking last month. earlier this year, you address the parliament in brussels. recent justin a comparison could be made between today and the nazi era. you said european people knew then what was happening to the refugees and a blue or nothing to save them. you say "i am not afraid of the onscience in 25 years time if europe fails to act now." >> i do fill strongly and so to the elders that i belong to that were brought together by nelson .andela 10 years ago our 10th anniversary is coming up. we were in new york with the international rescue committee, listening to the very good policies they have on admitting refugees, including syrian refugees. the point is, there is an extremely careful vetting that goes on. it is wrong to suggest anyone can come in that potentially is going to cause a problem. of course, we want to combat terrorism, but we have to understand the importance of a fully supporting the refugee convention, but also all migrants have human rights. that is the important message. amy: this is a spokesman for the pro-trump rate america jpac defending a proposed registry for all muslim immigrants by citing world war two japanese interment camps. he spoke with megyn kelly. >> we did it during world war ii with japanese. call it what you will -- >> you're not proposing we go back to the days of internment camps, i hope. >> not at all. that is the kind of stuff that gets people scared, carl. >> i'm just saying, there isprecedent for it. >> you can't be citing japanese interment camps as precedent for anything the president-elect is going to do. what's the president needs to protect america first. if that means having people not protected under our constitution, until we can identify the true threat and where it is coming from, i support it. amy: your response to this, former irish president, mary robinson? >> i met quite a number of people at this cop from muslim countries and they are quite scared. muslims living in the u.s. who are here at the cop, and they're very scared. it is important not to somehow try to characterize the other "all muslims." it is such a contradiction from the reality as we know it in the world and the importance of actually having more inclusive societies. we have two agendas of last year, the agenda of the sustainable development goals to leave no one behind, to reach the furthest behind first, and the paris agenda and to have action that is inclusive, gender sensitive, human rights. that is the agenda the world needs. we need a solidarity between people, not walls, not hatred, not words that create fear in other people. it is possible to secure entirely the united states to be said that any country can be secured and not have these measures that put fear and actually divide people. we need to bring people together, and that is what the agreement is all about in working toward a sustainable world. amy: your the former head of the u.s. high commissioner for human rights. want to ask about an issue not talked about very much because we are in morocco and that is the issue of western sahara. the human secretary-general ban ki-moon has raised this, call the moroccan present in the western sahara and occupation. i am wondering your thoughts today about those that live under occupation and the more want150,000 refugees who to come home, calling for un-sponsored referendum that would include self-determination. collects this has been a long-running problem. it is almost the kind of language of these past problems and is not move externally difficult to see how there can be the kind of progress that would help in the situation. i mean, the elders have been concerned about the palestinian situation. it is not improving. that is why i find words matter in our world today. we should be talking about human solidarity, about working together for the security of a world of the sustainable development goals to make communities more resilient, of the paris agreement. the developing countries must be able to develop. i feel very strongly that we need to be all the more determined, all the countries of the world must be determined with this agenda, with this value. amy: do you the the people of western sahara should be able to determine their own future, that there should be a referendum? it has been close to 42 year occupation. >> yes, it it has been a long-running saga. i'm not some of the rest of the this with close expertise, to be honest. but i know it is a big problem. does it was onn the refugees that are in nigeria, as you say. there is hope there would be a breakthrough, but do notee it coming soon, i'm sorry to say. has mary robinson, the u.n. said it hopes to mobilize 100 billion u.s. dollars to combat climate change and to help compensate victims of global warming. but activists who moments ago held a protester at the cop, sick countries are pledging far too little. they held a small protest " --ing signs reading "wtf "where is the finance?" thef we're looking up amount that has been pledged, what we have is only between $18 billion to $34 billion. the worst part is, $100 billion is not even close to what we need for climate finance. the amount we need is in the trillions. trillion to bail the banks out and the financial crisis, but we cannot even come close to this. the way this climate finance has been happening as the saying "wt f" "where is the finance?" this money is a debt that is owed to those on the frontline of climate change and they deserve it right now. "where'sth me, "wtf" the finance?" >> i very much agree, climate finance is incredibly important. but it must trigger trillions. that is extremely important. that is the money coming from governments and public sources. that must leverage the private sector. i understand the private sector now knows that is even more important than ever. there are many leaders who are non-. no company, business people here at the cop who are pressing for the need to have more investment in developing countries and there are projects for investment in developing countries. there are people that are working on a new climate finance. working to get a different approach to put energy, clean energy for all of those in developing countries. i very much agree with the passion. where is the finance? i agree. we have to get it. we have to make sure it is there and there for the people who need it most because they have suffered the most from the false a few -- fossil fuels. amy: mary, thank you for joining us. as we sit in front of the plenary here at the u.n. cop22, conference of the parties. presidentson is the of the mary robinson foundation climate justice. she served as president of ireland from 1990-1997 and u.n. high commissioner for human rights from 1997-2002. she is a member of the elders and the club of madrid and the recipient of numerous honors and awards including the , presidential medal of freedom from president obama. this is democracy now! when we come back, bernie sanders first major address since the election of donald trump. and we will get response. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: mose allison, "ever since the world ended." he died tuesday at the age of 89. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from marrakesh, morocco, from the cop22, the u.n. climate summit. and close attention to what is happening in the united states. on wednesday, hillary clinton gave her first public address since last week's election. clinton won the popular vote by as many as 2 million votes when all the votes are counted but , lost the electoral college to donald trump. clinton's margin is now bigger than the winning margins for john f. kennedy and richard nixon. on wednesday, clinton spoke at a gala for the children's defense fund, the non-profit founded by marian wright edelman where clinton once worked. mrs. clinton: i know this isn't easy. i know that over the past week, a lot of people have asked themselves whether america is the country we thought it was. the divisions laid bare by this election run deep. but listen to me when i say this. america is worth it. our children are worth it. delete and our country, fight for out -- believe in our country, fight for our values, never, ever give up. amy: across town at george washington university, senator bernie sanders also gave his first major address since the election. sanders, who challenged clinton in the democratic primary, has emerged as one of the most powerful democrats in washington. on wednesday, he was named to a leadership post in the senate -- chair of outreach -- and was reappointed ranking member of the senate budget committee. senator sanders called on trump to rescind his decision to make steve bannon as his stop -- his chief strategist. bannon is the former head of breitbart news. mr. sanders: this country come as you know, since our inception has struggled to overcome dissemination of all forms. and that is racism and sexism, xenophobia, and homophobia. for hundreds of years, extraordinarily brave people have stood up, and some of them have died in the struggle to end discrimination in america. and i say to mr. trump, from the bottom of my heart, and i know i speak for millions of fellow americans, mr. trump, we are not going backwards in terms of bigotry, we are going forward in creating a nondiscriminatory society. uponn that regard, i call mr. trump to rescind the appointment that he made of mr. bannon. a president of the united states should not have a racist at his side. unacceptable. amy: that the senator bernie sanders speaking on wednesday. but his speech was not solely an attack on donald trump. the vermont senator said he hopes to work with the president-elect on a number of issues. mr. sanders: mr. trump said, unlike many republicans, the vast majority of republicans, he said he will not cut social security, medicare, and medicaid. now, i believe we should expand social security. i believe in a medicare for all program. but that is what he said. what heattention to see now does. the question that will be resolved pretty quickly is whether or not everything that he was saying to the working families of this country was whether he was sincere. and we will find that out soon enough. trumpmber one, says mr. to social security, medicare, medicaid. mr. trump says he wants to invest $1 trillion in rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure. that is a good sum of money. that is exactly what we should be doing. and we could create millions of good paying jobs if we do that. mr. trump, that is what you said on the campaign trail, that is what we look forward to seeing from you. now, i happen to believe that the federal minimum wage of $7.25 is a starvation wage, that it should be raised to $15 an hour, a living wage. [applause] ester trump did not say that, but he did that we should raise it to $10 an hour. not enough, but a start. we will hold them to those words. mr. trump said that wall street's, dangerous, doing bad things, he was to reestablish glass-steagall legislation. i look forward to working with him. [applause] sanders: mr. trump says he wants six weeks of paid maternity leave. well, every other major country on earth has i think at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave, but this is a start. this is a start. we look forward to working with him if he is honest about that. mr. trump said throughout his campaign from a cornerstone of his campaign, he wants to change our disastrous trade policies. as somebody who voted against every one of these trade policies, i look forward to working with him to make that happen. amy: that is independent senator bernie sanders speaking wednesday night in washington. being referred to as one of the most powerful democrats in washington, he caucuses with the democrats. when we come back from break, we will look at how sanders and the democratic party plan to deal with a trump presidency, we are -- presidency. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: that his music from the western sahara, which has been morocco.by this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from the u.n., summit, cop22, where every few words were you walk down the lanes here in a makeshift encampment of thousands of people talking about climate change, well, you cannot go too far without hearing the name donald trump. no matter where people are from. we are going to turn now to look at how bernie sanders and the democratic party are planning to do with the trump presidency. we are joined by three guests. here in marrakesh is kevin de leon, president of the california state senate. and joining us in washington, d.c. two guests, roseann demoro, , executive director of national nurses united and the california nurses association/national nurses organizing committee and california state senate. larry cohen who served as a senior adviser to bernie sanders and is now the board chair of our revolution. larry cohen is the former president of communication workers of america. let's begin with you. we heard what senator sanders had to say, first calling for --ald trump to immediately to immediately make sure that steve bannon no longer works for him. your thoughts? >> well, you know, we use steve bannon literally as an enemy of the people, a divider of the nation, person who protects hate instead of the unity that donald trump has even talked about. i would start there, but i would also say our revolution board met face-to-face for two days earlier this week and the number one thing to come out of that is we will resist any attacks on immigrants that are here for any hate crimes, and we will stand together. we will not let donald trump's silo us up, come for us one at a time, unions, and then lgbt and then immigrants. we will stand together and we aim to unite the finally and people that are active in our revolution around that kind of resistance. amy: kevin de leon, your senate president of california. your thoughts on this first call of bernie sanders to immediately remove -- that donald trump should immediately remove steve bannon, who has just appointed to be a senior adviser on all issues you're concerned about? >> i think it is of grave concern that if you have anyone in the white house who has direct access to the most powerful man in the world, an individual who is perceived to be anti-semitic, an individual who has used social media and digital media manipulative ways to be divisive. immigrants who come from all over and want to make something of themselves, to have someone who would be the chief strategist, the mastermind if of deep concern. this is a really negative message throughout the world that you have someone who has a history and a practice of dividing and pitting one people against another. that is not what america is about. that is not what the american people are about. i can tell you as the youngest child of a single immigrant mother with other great education, it upsets me greatly because this is not what california is about. amy: what about the election of donald trump? folks,ink like a lot of here in marrakesh, a lot of folks are stunned. i know back home in california, a lot of folks are just the wilderness how this could come to fruition, how this could happen. i have never been prouder to be a californian. a margin of over two to one, californians rejected the politics fueled by misogyny, racism, by xenophobia and by hatred. california since a message to the rest of the country as well as the world, we will not tolerate those types of values in the state of california. concerned. he is the president-elect and will be the president of the united states of america for the next four years. i'm hoping we can find common ground throughout the country. but obviously, when he appoints someone like steve bannon to be his chief strategist in the white house, when he has kobach to be the chief strategist for immigration policy in the first thing that comes out of his mouth are the deportation of 2 million to 3 million so-called "criminal immigrants emco i can to you this, that number does not exist because we do not have julian to 3 million criminal immigrants in the u.s. wrong message because we do not know if it is a pretext to detain, identify racially profile and deport anyone who has broken tail light, a mother who is a nanny or housekeeper whose only crime is crossing the border looking for a better life, she immigrant""criminal admits that a pretext to detain her and eventually deport? thear since the election, signs he has sent out have not been positive. amy: what about the los angeles police chief beck saying he is not going to participate in this round up of immigrants? your thoughts on whether -- you're the senate president of california -- call for all police chiefs to do the same in california and around the country? >> we will be doing that. i want to give kudos to the chief of lapd special order number 40 in los angeles lapd. i met with the governor monday morning and we discussed this issue about human civil rights of immigrants, due process rights, as well as having the ability to have their word and say in a federal court of law. we are concerned. we're going to engage police chiefs throughout the state of california as well as sheriffs and the caliphate how would patrol. we do knowledge of engaging in federal -- we want them to citizens. you do not want his in a message of fear in communities, especially immigrant communities, that they will no longer trust local police department to report a crime if they witness a crime or is they themselves are a victim of a crime. we do not want to increase crime and our communities throughout california. amy: what exactly is chief back calling for now, saying he won't do? >> he will not allow the lapd to cooperate with any detention of any immigrants in the city of los angeles. amy: what about donald trump saying he will end funding for any century city like san francisco? >> the definition is quite nebulous to begin with. let's be clear about that. it is more symbolically powerful in terms of the words "sanctuary city." if you have the most powerful man in the white house using the white house for a political vendetta to punish children, punish working families, punish senior citizens and saying if you do not do x, i'm going to withdrawal ilion's of dollars of federal funding from you, that is saying things like it is blackmail. my responsibility as the president of california working with the governor and my counter partner is to do everything within my power, our power to help improve the human conditions and protect all civil rights of all individuals irrespective of who they are and where they come from. we entered to do that in california. amy: do you think california should become a sanctuary state? >> i can say this, in california, we recognize and respect immigrants for who they are, the contributions they've made to california. we have the fifth-largest economy in the entire world. think the immigrant community that helped build the economy in the state of california. we provide tuition for dreamers and the university of california. we provide health care -- preventative health care for undocumented children. we're provided drivers license. they can be licensed as well as insured. we have opened up the state of california. ultimately, it is the congress, the senate, as well as the house, and the president of the united states to do with his issue and it with the conference of immigration reform package that will allow these individuals to finally be legalized and allow them to really be part of the social fabric of who we are as a nation. amy: i want to bring in tindouf -- bring in roseann demoro. you tweeted this summary from bernie sanders' speech last night -- "the american people believe in progressive policies. we need to reform the democratic party." what kinds of reforms do you believe he is calling for? he is talking about making demands. talked about bill kristol, republican spoiler, renegade jew. all of these comments as steve bannon, but also talked about how to work. those are headlines from he hadrt news, which we had it. your thoughts, roseann demoro? >> thank you for having us on. before i answered your question, i want to thank you for your courage. the hearts andon minds of this nation. the nation is an entirely different place and people like to pretend. this is -- where this nation is, people are suffering. organization.es what i hear from the nurses, first of all, they are so appalled by the racism because they don't make choices between people. a nurse will care for someone who is impoverished the respective of what race they are. they treat everyone equally. they expect a more humane response from the president of the united states period. having said that, i will also say that racism did not begin with donald trump speaking. the democrats have had ample opportunity to do many things in this country to elevate the status of all working people. so what you see here and in the millions of people who are supporting the bernie sanders movement -- it is not bernie sanders. there is a movement. bernie sanders is the leader of that movement. what that movement is about is a different america. not just from the donald trump america, but a different america from the democrats, traditional democrats view of america. this nation is in a revolutionary mode. bernie sanders is one wing and donald trump is the other. ultimately, it was a clarifying election because what has happened with the democrats -- i will set aside the caliphate is myature because it bias. they actually try to do the right thing, usually. in america, the democrats have had every chance to do so much for this country. we should have single payer this country, which would help every person in this country. we should have had trade policies that created jobs across this country. instead, i mean, and there's all myriad of things -- public education, all of the things that bernie has been talking about. we have been on the case -- we have been on the journey with bernie for a year and a half. what we see is a very different america than what donald trump seized. the people who voted for donald trump in great part would have voted for bernie sanders. you look at michigan, look at wisconsin, i was in iowa, and i could see the love. it is some is the antithesis. we have a guy's clifford tatian moment in history. there is the bernie sanders movement, which as we love this country, we want a country that is humane for all people. then you have the trumps the basically work on divisiveness and separating people. if the most symbolic thing that donald trump could do, from my perspective, is to actually work with bernie sanders. that was in the best message throughout this country to listen to bernie sanders. on donald trump, you know, we had arnold schwarzenegger as the governor of california. he came in as the bully. completely full of himself. the people of california, nurses in the lead, took him down. they took him down. his credibility when from the highest to the lowest. the power of the people, which is in the sanders campaign, is what we have to count on is a game changer in this country. i am 100% in the nurses -- i just met with the executive board of the national nurses yesterday. they are 1000% on the campaign with bernie to transform this country. shame on the democrats for letting us down, frankly, and the reaction is here. the republicans, we are fearful of paul ryan. you touch medicare, you're going to see a revolution in this country. amy: that is a very interesting point that paul ryan is saying going after medicare almost immediately. kevin de leon, you have roseann demoro and larry cohen who are strong supporters of bernie sanders. you support hillary clinton. some say she was even considering you for a vice president running mate. do you think they chose the wrong candidate this year? >> i do not. i have a lot of respect for .oseann demoro and larry cohen it was a spirited debate. i have a lot of respect for bernie sanders and what he has done and how yes galvanized so many young folks. i have a lot of respect. without being said, at the desk with having said, was a democratic process into was elected to become the candidate. amy: your thoughts on him becoming the most powerful -- nondemocratic? clearly, we're talking about a revolution from the base at this point. >> i wish him as well as other leaders the very best to be a strong voice in washington, d c, but i also believe the best policies are coming out of the states. and the state of california. as opposed to progressive pontification, in california we have raised the minimum wage to provided health care for undocumented children and that with the issue of climate change. that is why we're here. amy: quickly -- >> we are theoretical. amy: and if donald trump pulls out of the agreement -- >> i've made it clear since i've been here morocco, irrespective of donald j. trump, california ,ith other like-minded states pacific northwest as well as canada, mexico, and china, we're going to go it alone. we have grown the economy. it is not by luck and happenstance. amy: larry cohen, we have 10 seconds. >> our revolution will fight on. we do see this as a moment of not just resistance, but fighting forward in the states and local communities. we are ready for it. we have a rally today. >> we can move forward. amy: i want to thank you all for being with us, larry cohen the former head ofcwa, roseann demoro of national nurses united, and kevin de leon president of the california , state senate. we will be celebrating democracy now!'s 20th anniversary with harry belafonte, noam chomsky, patti smith and more this december 5 in new york city. visit democracynow.org for details. democracy now! is looking -on this episode of "eat! drink! italy!"... we celebrate mozzarella. a chef from buffalo mozzarella's home makes an unforgettable mozzarella triple play. we talk about sagrantino. remember this name. it's a great wine that's on the move. then back to our mozzarella roots. ♪ my name is vic rallo, and i love to eat, drink italy. follow me, and i'll prove it. -"eat! drink! italy!" is brought to you by... wine enthusiast magazine and catalog -- for wine storage, glassware, and accessories. the historic count basie theatre in red bank, new jersey. the atalanta corporation -- importing authentic italian products and more for over 50 years. coffee afficionado -- artisanal roasters of sustainably sourced coffee.

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