protest continued pretense night in ferguson over the police shooting of michael brown. we will speak to 90-year-old holocaust survivor hedy epstein who was arrested monday in st. louis. pastor michael mcbride and missouri state senator maria chappelle-nadal. and we will look at the crackdown on journalists. >> here in the united states of america, police should not be arresting journalists who are just try to do their jobs and report to the mac and report to the market people on what they see on the ground. >> we will speak with the intercepts ryan devereaux who was one of the least 11 journalists detained so far in ferguson. he was held overnight. also he was hit with a rubber bullet. all of that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from ferguson, missouri. protests over the fatal police shooting of unarmed 18-year-old michael brown have continued for a tense night here in ferguson. speaking earlier today, captain ron johnson of the missouri state highway patrol said 47 people were arrested overnight. >> as of 1:00 a.m., there were 47 arrests tonight compared to 31 at the same time yesterday. steesl add one of the are we have arrested for the third time. the minimum in a law enforcement and the people of ferguson have got to know better and understand one another. it makes me proud every night as i see more more police officers and residents interacting. >> jail records obtained by the media show at least 78 people were arrested overnight sunday, more than twice the number cited by the police. the overwhelming majority of those arrested were from missouri. just miles away in st. louis tuesday, police fatally shot a 23-year-old black man accused of stealing energy to ranks and pastries from a convenience store. st. louis police chief sam dotson said the man brandished a knife. were out of the car. when they got out, they did not have weapons drawn. when the suspect displayed their knife, they gave verbal commands to stop and drop the knife. the suspect move toward the passenger. the police officer was in the passenger side of the vehicle. he came within three to four feet of the officer. both officers fired their weapons. the suspect is deceased. >> about 200 people gathered at the scene after the shooting. some chanted "hands up, don't shoot," the cost to refrain of protests over the death of michael brown. the u.n. high commissioner for human rights has condemned the police crackdown on protests in ferguson. in an interview, navi pillay said the united states should "share spiegel's right to protest." she also compared the clashes in ferguson to those sparked by apartheid in her native south africa, saying -- "these scenes are from a year to me a privately hours thinking that there are parts of the united dates were apartheid is flourishing." the protests in ferguson have reached the national football league. the players in the secondary lineup for the washington team took to the field monday night with their hands in the air in a gesture of solidarity with the ferguson protest. the team is facing a racial controversy of its own with two top nfl football commentators now joining the rights of those to avoid the name redskins because it is a racial slur. the pentagon is continuing to defend a program that gives access military equipment to do mystic police departments like the wind here in ferguson. spokesperson rear admiral john kirby listed equal men ferguson has received through the program. >> the police department since property was to humvees, one generator and one cargo trailer. county,ll of st. louis over that same time frame, which includes ferguson, six pistols, 12 rifles, 15 weapons sites, a robot, three helicopters, seven humvees -- two of which are being used by ferguson -- and two night division vices. >> a grand jury will have evidence of the death of air carner -- of eric garner. he died after police placed in an abandoned chokehold. the staten island district attorney said he made the decision to handle the grand jury after reviewing evidence in the case, quitting and not talk to that world garner's death a homicide. his family has called for federal investigation. israel has resumed its assault on the gaza strip, killing 11 palestinians after a 10 day pae in violence. israel said it launched at least 60 airstrikes after hamas fired rockets in violation of the latest cease-fire, which was due to end at midnight. since fighting resumed, israeli strikes of reportedly killed seven members of a single family, including three children, as well as the wife and two-year-old son of hamas military commander mohammed deif. there were no reports of israeli fatalities from hamas rockets. more than 2000 palestinians, hundreds of them chevron, have been killed since the israeli offensive began in july. on the israeli side, 64 soldiers and three civilians have been killed. talks in cairo aimed at reaching a lasting cease-fire between israel and the palestinians have broken down. israel said it withdrew its team as a result of hamas rocket fire. but a palestinian negotiator blamed israel for the breakdown of the talks. collapse of the calm period a few hours ago, it was preceded by the israeli 4:00 p.m.,around which is evidence of the decision by these really prime minister netanyahu. it was declared he was the one that ordered them to leave cairo. israel announced the collapse of the negotiations when we were still negotiating through the egyptian mediator. this is evidence the decision was premeditated and destroyed the calm period. >> in oakland, california, protesters opposed to the israeli assault on gaza had continued efforts to block a ship operated by an israeli company from unloading. left they, the ship port of oakland after was prevented from unloading for fourth day in a row, but later returned. the islamic state appears to have beheaded american journalist james foley and retaliation for the u.s. airstrikes in iraq. foley had reported for globalpost and agence france presse before his capture in syria in 2012. in a graphic video released tuesday, a man presumed to be foley is shown in orange jumpsuit, and a pair reference to u.s. prisoners at guantánamo. before the beheading, he recites a statement blaming his death on the u.s. government and calling u.s. airstrikes "the last down in my coffin." foley was previously captured in libya in 2011 and held by forces loyal to ousted leader moammar could off he. he reflected on that experience in an interview with the boston globe. captured inwho got 2011. journalism is important. without these photos and videos and first-hand experience, we can't really tell the world how bad it might be. >> in a statement, james foley's mother diane foley said -- the islamic state video also claims to show another american journalist, steven sotloff, who is been missing for your. the militants a his life depends on obama's next decision. the video's release came as iraqi forces face fierce resistance from islamic state militants in their question reclaim the iraqi town of tikrit. kurdish and iraqi forces succeeded in regaining control of the mosul dam. in west africa, the number of deaths from a record outbreak of the deadly ebola virus has top 1200, with more than 2200 total cases. liberia, which saw the most new cases in recent days, has imposed a nationwide curfew and said security forces to see a lot a slum housing tens of thousands of people. u.n. agencies have stepped up efforts to deliver food to quarantine areas of guinea, liberia, and sierra leone. three second liberian doctors who received the experiment will beg zmapp are said to improving. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. here fromdcast ferguson, missouri, just outside of st. louis. another 47 people were arrested last night in a tent night of protests over the police killing of 18-year-old michael brown. protesters are calling for the arrest of ferguson police officer darren wilson who shot the unarmed teenager six times, including twice in the head. a grand jury will begin hearing evidence in the case today. meanwhile, attorney general eric holder is scheduled to arrive here in ferguson soon to meet with fbi agents investigating brown's death. according to "the new york times," holder and top justice department officials are to open a broader civil rights investigation to look at ferguson's police practices at large. meanwhile, the committee of journalists [inaudible] journalists [inaudible] for an update on the latest, we're joined by ryan devereaux of the intercept. on monday night, who shot by rubber bullet. welcome back to democracy now! first, start with last night. >> protesters took to the streets here in ferguson on the main thoroughfare where people have an gathering the last 10 days. [indiscernible] people basically marching in circles around the area, chanting, protesting over the killing of michael brown. but the vast majority of the night, it was peaceful. people were enjoying the opportunity to protest. they had police on each side of them, heavily armed the i's police. around midnight, there was a large prayer held. many people participated after the prayer. local committee leaders who have been working with the police were attempting to get young people -- young man who are in the area to calm down and not escalate anything like that happen eyes before. a plastic bottle was thrown at the police. things quickly escalated. there was a lot of shouting. police were issuing orders for the media to disperse. the authorities began pushing the crowd of media and demonstrators back and back and back. people were backpedaling with their hands in the air chanting "hands up, don't shoot." the refrain we've heard again and again. the police were sending camouflage officers, heavily armed and dressed like soldiers from iraq or afghanistan into the crowd will stop pulling people out seemingly at random. us our journalist pulled out and potentially arrested. situation, tens and many moments. police dogs were barking. there was a chopper overhead. people were terrified. people were screaming. that is been the way things have been going. peacefula largely protest for most of the day a most of the evening and something will spark and it will kick off and it becomes chaotic quite quickly. >> talk about what happened you monday night, ryan. >> i was reporting in the same area. most of the media had been cleared out by the police due to what they deemed "public security threat." they had said to journalists something about shots being fired in the area, but did not offer any details. most of the media in the area cleared out. i was with a german journalist. reporter froming "the national post" to his car. we were in the neighborhood where clashes had happened throughout the last week and a half. dropped off the reporter. as we are trying to this command center -- actually, where we are now -- where the police had directed the media did go, i heard over a loudspeaker "this is your final warning." returned toers had the scene despite the media being returned. i mediately pulled the car over and parked. my first instinct was to check out what was going to happen. i found about two dozen protesters on one avenue. they were taunting the police. a garbage can was set on fire. some street posts were removed from the ground. street,ther side of the another group of protesters were saying, this is not helping issues. i crossed the street interview a woman who was quite vocal. as i was beginning to ask her questions, police began firing tear gas canisters in our direction. we moved into -- onto a parallel street on a residential neighborhood. i continued to speak with this woman and police began coming up the road and armored vehicles, firing more and more tear gas canisters. it appears shooting rubber bullets out of their vehicle -- rubber bullets or being backgrounds, nonlethal projectiles as they call them. i actually ran into the young woman who showed me a wound she said was from the night where china getaway. off.nd her friends took the german reporter and i were still stuck on the ground. we were basically separated from our vehicle by a road that was quickly becoming entirely engulfed into a gas. police were screaming up and down the streets in armored vehicles, shooting to gas canisters and rubber bullets. i saw the police on at least one occasion drive into the residential neighborhoods, seeming to be seeking out anyone who is still around, shooting tear gas canisters at them another not only file -- nonlethal projectiles. we took cover behind a tree for a time to make sure we were not going to be hit with any of these projectiles. at one point, we decided to save his option for us was to walk north on this residential street parallel to the main getoughfare and try to across the street and back to our car. ,e could be gas in the houses armored vehicles racing up and down the street. at one point, one of those police vehicles turned left toward us. it was clear, given the high-powered lights they had, they would see us. we felt our best option was to immediately identify ourselves as journalist in hopes they would not shoot us. we put our hands in the air. we came out of the shadows. i had my press identification in my hand and we were screaming, "press, press, we are media, journalists." a police officer on top of the armored vehicle trained his light on us. he saw us. there was a bit of pause. he beckoned us over. we continued yelling we were press. we had her hands in the air. we made a right towards another armored vehicle, towards the main -- [no audio] me and my friend was walking down in the middle of the street. we wasn't causing any harm to nobody. we had no weapons on us at all. we were just walking and having a conversation. no cars were blowing or hawking at us like we're holding up traffic or anything like that. a police officer's car pulled up. his exact words were "get the f on the sidewalk." ♪ ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are in ferguson, missouri. there will be satellite glitches possibly through this broadcast. we're broadcasting from a parking lot. last night, dozens of people were once again arrested in the 10th night of protests after the police killing of michael brown. 18 years old, without any weapon, lay in the street from before his body was picked up. the street in front of his grandmother's apartment. our guest is ryan devereaux, a reporter with the intercept. he was arrested among 11 other reporters. for the satellite went down, he was describing first putting his hands in the air. ryan, take it from there. >> this german reporter and i emerged from the shadows with our hands in the air, identifying ourselves as press. a police officer on top of an armored vehicle turned his light on us, saw us. there was a pause. he beckoned us to come in his direction. doing so,ue due to -- yelling we were press. we took a right at the corner where this armored vehicle was parked and continued toward another armored vehicle, were several heavily armed police officers had their rifles trained on us. we were walking toward those officers, halfway up the block when a police officer behind us and the armored vehicle who had beckoned us over began opening fire on us with nonlethal projectiles. i was hit in the back in the german reporter was hit twice as well. at this point, we realized the police were willing to shoot at us and we had several similarly armed officers with their guns trained on us in front of us and every reason to believe they would open fire at any moment. the fear was some of them might not be using nonlethal rounds. car to takebehind a cover. surroundedbasically us, zip tied our hands around us, through us in the back of their armored vehicle and robust to this command center where we were informed we were being arrested. we would be taken to county jail, unclear as to why or what charges. we repeatedly said we were journalists. we asked -- they asked why we were out. we said, we had a job to do, the same reason they were out to they took us to the jail. were held for approximately eight hours. the closest we got to an explanation for our detention was they told us we were being charged with refusal to disperse. i was released yesterday morning . >> who else was in jail where you were? least two dozen or so young men we were speaking to throughout the course of the night we saw come in. the police initially said that 31 people were arrested over the course of that night, but as it turns out, according to nbc news, the number was much higher. significantly higher. these young man were a lot of young men from the community. young, african-american men who have been demonstrating for days now, frustrated not just of the killing of michael brown, but the general treatment of members of the community by the police. >> ryan devereaux, i want to turn to the clip of ron johnson, who is the highway security oftain who was put in charge security here in ferguson. he is talking about the arresting of journalists. >> i'm going to tell you in the midst of chaos when officers are running around, we're not sure who is a journalist and who is not. yes, if i see someone with a $50,000 camera on their shoulder, i'm pretty sure. but some journalists are walking around and all you have is a cell phone because you're from a small media outlet. some of you may just have a camera around your neck. yes, we may take some of you into custody. but when we do take you into custody and we have found out you are a journalist, we have taken the proper action. it, in themidst of midst of chaos and trying to move people off -- >> that was captain ron johnson. ryan devereaux, a $50,000 camera and he pretty much knows you are a journalist? >> that seems like a pretty ridiculous request of journalists. the vast major area of us are not walking round with $50,000 cameras. that is not the way media works anymore. he also said once a person has identified themselves as a journalist, the authorities will make every effort to make sure they are released. that was not the case for us. in the case of our arrest, we identified ourselves immediately and we were shot in the back by police officers. >> and how did it compare to last night, the treatment of people in the street? >> last that was interesting because there were so many media out, so much media -- a really heavy media presence on the street. the police were repeatedly requesting the media to move to this designated area. very unclear as to why. the media was standing its ground and sort of refusing to separate itself from the crowd of demonstrators that were there for quite some time. eventually, the police did manage to get everyone to start moving. with all of these cameras on them, the police officer still continued to sort of surge into the crowd and pluck people out. violentisturbing and ways. talks i want to play president obama. on thursday, last thursday, he criticized the ferguson police department for its treatment of journalists. >> there is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting. there is also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights. here in the united states of america, police should not be pulling or resting journalist who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the american people on what they see on the ground. >> that is president or that was president obama, ryan devereaux, his comment about journalists? >> it is interesting to hear this administration talking about journalists and this way because were talking about them cracking down on whistleblowers and protesters more than any other administration combined. it is refreshing to see the concern extended not just to journalists covering protests, import national security stories the record to limit confidential sources. >> james risen's has president obama has cracked down is the worst president when it comes down to crackdown on journalists. he was having his own news conference right about the time president obama was talking about ferguson's treatment of journalists on thursday. he and many others were involved with delivering 100,000 signatures to the white house, the justice department, around the issue of james risen and the u.s. government possible attack on him, the possibility because the supreme court has refused to hear his case, that he will not the "new yorkrce, times" reporter, he could possibly go to jail. this anyone knows about administration's on journalism, it is james risen. he has felt the full force of this administration and his efforts to go after those who receive leaks that are not sanctioned by the administration, not sanction by the white house. our media is awash in national security leaks, but oftentimes they are leaks that paint the administration or the white house in a favorable light. there's no crackdown on the journalist who are reporting from those sources. of people like james rise and come out with stories -- james risen that come out with stories that detail real stories, the administration comes after them and it is a serious problem. >> ryan devereaux, thank you for being with us, reporter from the intercept. he was arrested on monday nights. even as i say goodbye to you, one last question. how this compares to your experience of occupy, which you covered extensively when you're working at democracy now!, the occupy movement in new york? ferguson,ice here in unlike the nypd, that come out dressed as storm troopers in .ull military gear it doesn't seem to be the case that they have the experience working with large crowds as the nypd does. they almost managed to make the nypd, which detained hundreds and hundreds of people over the course of occupy -- pepper spray people, beat protesters. the police here on must make the nypd look good in the handling of crowds. >> ryan devereaux, thank you so much. he will be out on the streets again as we continue to cover what is happening here in ferguson, as we broadcast from ferguson, missouri. we will be back in a moment. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. frome broadcasting ferguson, missouri, continuing to discuss the protest that have taken place here for the past 11 in the demand justice police killing of unarmed teenager michael brown. for more return to michael the way pastor of christian center berkeley, california. yes been here working with young people ascts of civil disobedience. he is also national director of the lifelines for human communities campaign, part of people improving community through organizing. the group is known as pico, the largest faith-based network of community organizing in the country. welcome to democracy now! why did you come to ferguson? >> certainly, our challenge sitting at home watching all of the violence that had taken place, the killing of michael brown, we were facing a number of calls from people here in the state were in the city of ferguson -- or in the city of ferguson. the clergy called and asked us to come. came.tainly we were appalled by what we experienced and what we had seen, have young people -- how the young people were being traumatized. fired all these teargas canisters. they were collecting rubber bullets. on theirs wounds bodies. some of our staff are on the front line and saying the soldiers were throwing these two gas canisters without warning. it has all just been a travesty. very egregious, egregious, what i call it evil, that we witnessed these last 11 days. we could not sit on the sidelines. we had to come to ferguson to make every effort to try and help support, but also bring a end what wetive to believe is an overaggressive policing a group of people who have already been traumatized by the death of michael brown. >> talk more about young people. >> the young people here have made every effort to do nonviolent protests and make every effort to stay within the bounds of their constitutional rights. we have been at many, many offices where the young people have sat down on the ground, have done nonviolent protests come have willfully brought folks for to be arrested and you own crowd control. the organization for black struggle. a number of folks right here on the ground during their own self policing and regulating to demonstrate their outrage. they have not been met with goodwill. they been met with group force. it is unacceptable if we are living in a democracy where we say we care about our children. >> talk about the demands. the demands that have been faced -- brought forth, they want the immediate firing of the police chief. certainly we want an indictment of this officer. they're asking for the governor to appoint a special prosecutor and the president and other folks to begin to investigate every unarmed killing of an american citizen by the federal government and not leave it to local jurisdictions. because local jurisdictions are proving their unable to do the work in an expedient manner. evan number of demands are very, very powerful. due of which are militarizing the police force. standing behind me is a humvee that i've only seen in the movies. i am a citizen of this country. i pay taxes. i teach our kids to be nonviolent, yet there are with soldiers running up and down the street because they're protesting. we raced gets to be martin luther king. we show them all of the video of the civil rights movement, and they're practicing the legacy of civil rights and resistance in this country. and they are being met with tactics that are only shown on tv and other countries who are struggling to become a democracy. it is outrageous. the president should be ashamed it is happening on his watch. eric holder should be ashamed. this governor should be ashamed. this may or should be ashamed it is happening on his watch. every adult should be ashamed of african-american children are being terrorized by adults in the united states of america that claims to be the land of the free. and the home of the brave. >> what you make of attorney general eric holder coming here today to ferguson? >> i'm glad, but i'm more interested in what he is going to do when he comes. we work with the department of justice and a number of them regularly to talk about community building, to talk about a number of different things. i'm glad he is coming, but he needs to come with an indictment. he needs to come with an investigation of this police department. foryoung people tell us most of their lives they have been racially profiled in this community. the adults tell us for decades they have been terrorized in this community. this is not just a singular incident according to the residents who live here in this area. yesterday, a mentally ill african-american man was killed in st. louis with a knife in his hand. you would think given all that is happening, why wouldn't they shoot -- why would they shoot leg?he this is not acceptable in a civilized society. we are modeling behavior for young people. >> the references to, well, people are coming from outside the city? >> they are killing their own people in the cities. they have killed two african-american men in the last week in this city. these are supposed to be professional, trained law enforcement. they are not acting professional. they take target practice. the weapons they use only kill individuals if you hit them in the head. they have levels of engagement. they can use their hands. they can use their batons. they can use their tasers. a gun should be a last resort. if someone is running toward you, pop journey cap's. why are you aiming for the face? it is an irrational fear of black men. if you're that scared of black men, you should not police black communities. god is going to judge others for what we're doing to our children. i'm not going to sit on the sidelines. the parents and clergy are not going to sit on the sidelines. why are we so outraged? because we have children. what pair would not be outraged that their children are being killed by people who we pay with our tax dollars? >> michael mcbride, thank you for being with us. >> sorry for being so animated. >> don't apologize. , pastorichael mcbride of the way christian center in berkeley, california. we turn to a missouri state senator. during protests here in ferguson, one of the key voices calling for justice is state senator maria chappelle-nadal. she has been in the streets facing tear gas, and on twitter where she was highly critical of governor jay nixon's lack of action days after michael brown was killed and protest erupted. senator chappelle-nadal, we welcome you to democracy now! >> thank you so much for having me. >> am i pronouncing her name correctly? >> absolutely. >> you have been here from day one, very controversial tweet you sent out, and greg governor nixon. why? >> let me tell you, i was here since day one. it was a saturday late evening. a good friend of mine, antonio french come a said, let's get out here. you have to be out here. i noticed a lot of people very angry about a young man laying dead on the ground for hours, literally for hours. so since that point in time, i was protesting with the people. there is a lot of anger in this community. many people who have been intimidated and harassed by authorities such as police officers, they felt and feel as though they are michael brown themselves. at any given time, wrong place, wrong time, they are all michael brown. afterunately, the sunday the killing of michael brown, there was a lot of looting. on monday after the looting, we were protesting in peace and we were tear gassed. we were given no warning. i just did a different interview and it was said there is always been at least 30 or 40 minutes prior to tear gassing, but not the first three days. we did not know that. a one-ways, it was street, one way in and one way out. i had my intern and a young reverend with me. we were trying to get out of the area. at that time, there was a woman six months pregnant who is forced to the ground face down because she was trying to get out of the street, which was a one-way street. threat.ught of her as a it felt as though we were being threatened or accused of being looters, and we were not. i was with about 150 young people who live in the apartment northwind'sht on estate, right behind me qt. we had no opportunity to leave. and i wasy courageous nervous. i was nervous for my intern because she is only 21 years old. wednesday, the governor was still at the state fair. he was at a country music concert with his own democratic senator -- when his own democratic senator was getting tear gassed. you not even been engaged in the situation whatsoever. so i was very mad. people keep asking me if i regret what i said. and i don't. not whatsoever. one, it is my first amended right to say whatever the heck i want to say. any four letter word or expletive. i think anyone who is been tear gassed, it would be abnormal if they did not express themselves. upset.ely, i was the most important thing your audience should know is that the governor still has not gone to ground zero. we're in day 11 or 12 now and he municipalities both north and south enter the command center, which is about a mile south, southeast of the ground zero number one -- because we have two ground zeros. he is yet to talk to the people. i have been out on the grounds since 6:00 this morning. i was talking to one of my constituents and he said, i don't know what is going on with the governor, but we would have protected him. he did not have to come in the evening time where there are -- they're a lot of people who come in the morning when there are fewer people. the fact he is still not come to talk to the people who see themselves as michael brown at any given town -- even time is a slap in the face. that is why bring into question, what his intent has and all along. i have said publicly he is always felt uncomfortable within the minority community. he only comes around the minority community when it is politically expedient. a great example, last year he tried to cut benefits which would have disproportionately impacted minority communities. he also wants to cut low income housing and tax benefits, which again would disproportionately impact minority communities. this governor, for his entire political career, he is had a disconnect and not achieve genuine relationship with the -- not a true genuine relationship with the african it american committee unless it is expedient for the next promotion he may get. >> eric holder is come to town today. have you been in communication with him? >> i hope to meet with him. i know he has a tight schedule. toent a letter not only valerie jarrett in the white house to make sure the national guard stays in place as it relates to eric holder. the office.ed he is trying to make some room. if that happens, i don't know. i really want to talk to him because unlike the governor and unlike my congressman, i have been on the ground every single day with the people of this community who are most impacted by the death of michael brown, junior. of what exactly president obama should be doing right now? >> there are a lot of mixed feelings out there. just the fact he came home early from a vacation is really good. i think he is at a very measured approach in this. he is trying to stay as ballast as possible. i do think eric holder understands our civil rights have been violated as protesters we experienced excessive force from the st. louis county police officers and the ferguson police department. we were prohibited from wasessing -- as a senator i prohibited from expressing my first amendment right along with 150 other young people. that right was taken away. in my belief, i'm not an attorney, but i do believe when it came to michael brown -- no matter if you did something wrong or not, if you was accused of theft, he has due process. right now, darren wilson gets the benefit from due process. no one appointed or elected officer wilson as the judge, jury, and executioner. >> why hasn't the officer been indicted? we've had other people saying the prosecutor actually does not have to impanel a grand jury. if you could talk about bob mcculloch and his role in everything that has happened. >> i have to start off by saying, there's a great mistrust of bob mcculloch in this community. the black committee. a lot of people think he is biased because of his own personal experience with his father being killed by an african-american. the number of convictions he has had. the majority of them have been african-american. this is an emergency. we are in an emergency state right now. per usualking things is not due diligence whatsoever for this community. the world is looking at st. louis right now. he said the grand jury meets every single week. we should have received justice last week. here's the other deal. my community, the young people i talked to, they say teed up. they say, number one, if they kill someone as an african-american, they would have been in jail immediately. there would not be any question whatsoever. aty would not be sitting home watching tv like officer darren wilson is right now. african-american, they feel as if there is a double standard. during wilson should be arrested just like an african-american would be arrested in a situation like this. the next thing my constituents say is -- two more things. one, because there's so much anger and there's so much hate, a lot of the young man, they're willing to die for justice. what i'm trying to do on the ground is redirect all of that anger, which is so intense and redirect it to outcomes and action like going to your city council meeting and knowing who your council members are, knowing the name of your mayor. i am trying to redirect that. on sunday right after the killing of michael brown, junior, i was between police officers and people who were willing to die. i had -- it is the first time i learned that a touch of a woman can really impact a very angry man. i never experienced that before. for that sunday afterwards -- and two days ago, i had a man who was crying. he was crying. if you understood -- and never thought i would be so adamant about the first amendment. the very foundation, the most important right that any of us has is taken away. my constituents are so hurt. they can't express themselves. to have my first him him right dust away as a senator, first amendment right taken away is a senator, i cannot believe it. i had to hold this grown man crying because he felt as though his first amendment right was being taken away from him. he did not understand why he was being treated differently from everyone else. frustration.t of going back to the governor, he doesn't get to feel this at all. he doesn't get to see this or hear these stories because he has refused at the 11th, 12 day now, to go to ground zero and talk to people who are hurting. >> has school started? we interviewed dr. art mccoy who used to be the superintendent. what happened to him? >> and all-white school board, six of the seven, decided to intimidate him. he is a minister. he is one of the most intelligent people that i have ever met. i would absolutely do anything for him. -- infortunately, because would say the institutional racism we have within this community, they did not want him. they were mad at him. tookwere doing whatever it to get him away from this district. it is unfortunate. i think what happened to him is what isightful as to going on in the police department in ferguson right now. it is kind of the same thing. >> it wasn't all-white school board that ultimately pushed him out, six of the seven. and then you have a city council here -- >> there is only one james,-american, duane who is awesome and has been at ground zero several times and trying to come up with solutions. i haven't seen any of the other council members will stop the mayor of ferguson. i've only seen him on the ground couple of times. he is a friend. but people need to be touched and heard. they need to know someone is listening. >> last words to the people of the world who are watching and listening and will be reading your words today? >> please know that ferguson, missouri is a peaceful place. this is the first murder this year. there's a lot of institutional headm and it has come to a now. thankfully, the world knows. unfortunately, we should not have lost a young man. we're going to rebuild. our businesses are supportive, even though some of them have been looted. they're very supportive. this is a multiracial move meant are notsure people intimidated and harassed. we're going to move on. said,oley, -- how do you the covers are now lifted. all of the light is shining so people know what is going on. next i want to thank you very much for being with us. i want to thank our guest missouri state senator maria chappelle-nadal. we and today show with hedy epstein, a 90-year-old holocaust onvivor who was arrested monday in st. louis. when she was part of a protest outside of governor jane axon's office -- jay nixon's office. she is cofounder of the solidarity committee in st. louis branch of jewish voice for peace. in 2011 to is part of the gaza freedom flotilla and was a passenger on the u.s. flagship the audacity of hope. over the years, she has made many solidarity trips to the west bank. she joins us here now in ferguson. hedy epstein, welcome back to democracy now! >> good morning, amy, and thank you for having me on your program. >> we speak to you as chair gas has been in the streets of ferguson and the israeli assault on gaza has just resumed. your feelings today and talk about why you got arrested on monday. >> several of us gathered downtown on monday and we marched to the wainwright building where the office of governor nixon is. we wanted to's week to him and ask him to just the the violence that is going on in ferguson. police and security people in front of the building. they would not let us in. there is a large plaza in front of the building. so we congregated there. there were some people speaking about their experiences. at one point, a police lieutenant informed us that the governor is not there. i just learned he was at the fair. and his staff is not there and asked us to disperse. didn't disperse, within seconds almost, the police arrested those of us who refused to disperse. there were nine of us. i was one of them. we were handcuffed and taken to the paddy wagon to the nearest police substation. >> what concerns you most about what is happening? >> the ongoing violence in the ongoing oppression that has been taking place in ferguson, of the african-american community. and that has to end. the whole structure of oppression has to end. right now, that is the long-range problem. violence has, the to do yes go late. de-escalate. instead, it is being escalated. the police chief of ferguson has been trained in israel how to mishandle, i'm sorry -- >> police chief jackson? >> right. how to mishandle a large group of people. this is what he is doing. it is the same kind of violence that i have observed when i was in the israeli occupied palestine. just abominable what is happening. trucks where were you born? >> i was born in germany. 1939 hundred children's transporter to england. i came to this country in may 1948. bywhat keeps you going at go the way, you just celebrated your 90th birthday. happy birthday. activisms you and your from gaza and the west bank to ferguson, missouri? >> i know what it feels like to be discriminated against, to be oppressed. i can't stand idly by when i see that problem. every problem and i probably caps off any problem, but i have to do whatever is possible for me to do. i cannot stand idly by because anyone who stand idly by becomes complicit in what is going on. >> do you have a message as you stand here in the streets of ferguson, missouri for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu? >> stop the violence. though to the table and honestly happen ifat might he's ever can be there in that area. that violence there has to end. it is terrible what has been going on there. not just now, but an ongoing inc.. netanyahu has no intention, really, he talks about peace but doesn't really want peace. >> >> and your message for president obama who has been dealing with ferguson, missouri and israel? >> i know he is on vacation, but come here to ferguson and show your face and talk to the people, talk to the young people here. they need you. , thank you son much for being with us, our last guest today here in ferguson, missouri. as we broadcast each day the voices of people in the streets and we will continue to do so. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. i want to thank our team on the ground here. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to [email protected] or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. 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